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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: I get nice open eye visuals but no CEVs? [Re: lovelaughlibs]
    #22476862 - 11/04/15 02:45 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Hmmm when I was younger I never tried CEV. But now, I've noticed the visuals are way more powerful with my eyes closed meditating. I use my mindfold every trip now during the comeup and peak. Kinda gotta train the "third eye" so to speak. I've gotten so good at it, I can start seeing things by just meditating soberly now. And I'm way more sensitive to the effects when I do trip. I would recommend keeping your eyes shut or using a blindfold for a little while during the comeup and peak. Relax and just try to observe. Gets way better and stronger with experience, at least it did for me


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Re: I get nice open eye visuals but no CEVs? [Re: Heisencybin] * 1
    #22478509 - 11/04/15 09:44 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Heisencybin said:
Hmmm when I was younger I never tried CEV. But now, I've noticed the visuals are way more powerful with my eyes closed meditating. I use my mindfold every trip now during the comeup and peak. Kinda gotta train the "third eye" so to speak. I've gotten so good at it, I can start seeing things by just meditating soberly now. And I'm way more sensitive to the effects when I do trip. I would recommend keeping your eyes shut or using a blindfold for a little while during the comeup and peak. Relax and just try to observe. Gets way better and stronger with experience, at least it did for me



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YESSSS.
Focus on your consciousness it's self. Let thoughts and visual objects appear without judgment. If you judge them or start trying to intellectualize what you're seeing it'll disappear and you'll get nothing.
When people first start meditating it can feel very unconformable and their thoughts will go wild for a bit because they're not used to it.

The mind is like a mud puddle, leave it be and it'll settle.
Keep poking and prodding at it and it'll never clear up.
"If you're the one thinking your thoughts then who's listening?"

Also deep breathing for like 45mins to an hour can do wonders.
You want to breath a tad bit faster than normally but not very much. Just expand and contract your lungs all the way. Most people breath very shallowly.

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judgment in its turn is always based on experience, i.e., on what is already known. As a rule it is never based on what is new, what is still unknown, and what under certain conditions might considerably enrich the directed process.
It is evident that it cannot be, for the very reason that the unconscious context are excluded from consciousness.

Through such acts of judgment the directed process necessarily becomes one-side, even though the rational judgment may appear many-sided and unprejudiced.
The very rationality of the judgment may even be the worst prejudice, since we call reasonable what appears reasonable to use. What appears to us unreasonable is therefore doomed to be excluded because of its irrational character.
It may really be irrational, but may equally well merely appear irrational without actually being so when seen from another standpoint.




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Re: I get nice open eye visuals but no CEVs? [Re: happyshroomer123]
    #22478677 - 11/04/15 10:14 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Can u describe your OEVs?

I find CEVs to be pretty dose dependent and depends on how clear my mind is.


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