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hostileuniverse
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The Ecstatic said: Fair enough, I can admit that conservatives pick and choose which of those ideals to maintain, and when, and that liberals do the same thing.
But here's the difference: liberal ideas are applied the world over successfully, and most conservative principals aren't. And if they are, they fail.
That's a pretty broad statement, don't forget conservative ideals made America the superpower it is today, so there's that
I would disagree completely, but am willing to admit there's room for that debate.
However, my point still stands. There are no major nations today that are succeeding by any first world standard because of their conservative ideals, whether that be economically or socially. Politically we do see success of parties that are labelled in their respective nations as conservative, but are still farther left than American Democrats are.
Conservative ideals built this country, gave the middle class more power over their lives, and improved everyone's standard of living.
FDR and Truman were the beginning of the end, it takes a long time to unravel what the Patriots and hard workers of America built
https://mises.org/library/transformation-american-economy-1865-1914
Boom! Thank you, I'm right, you're wrong, my arguments never have and NEVER will be broken!
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Bam! Libertarian Thinktank proves it all!
And yeah man, what happened to the good old days of company scrip and kids working instead of going to school? Fuck man, those were the days!
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hostileuniverse said: Conservative ideals built this country, gave the middle class more power over their lives, and improved everyone's standard of living.
FDR and Truman were the beginning of the end, it takes a long time to unravel what the Patriots and hard workers of America built
https://mises.org/library/transformation-american-economy-1865-1914
Boom! Thank you, I'm right, you're wrong, my arguments never have and NEVER will be broken!
Two bold statements without any supporting evidence (yours and mises).
Let's see what things look like when you introduce evidence:
Income:

Income enequality:

Income was going up for everyone until 1980, when it only went up for the rich. What happened in 1980? FDR and Truman???
Income inequality went way down in 1940 and then back up 1980. Who was leading in 1940? In 1980?
Mises.org is another site I'll write off as one that makes bogus claims they can't back up.
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The Ecstatic
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Mises.org is one of the few bastions of conservative economic policy left.
And there's a reason for that.
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