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Tips to avoid wigging out?
    #22420748 - 10/22/15 10:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Any suggestions on how to avoid wigging out?  Last experience with mushies was about 5 years ago, and we didn't have enough to go around.  I was probably a level 1.  Time before that I went too hard. 

Now that I have a reliable supply, should I aim for level 2 trip and build up?  I was thinking 2 grams dried for a first trip?  I'm 180 lbs.


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Re: Tips to avoid wigging out? [Re: ranman]
    #22420780 - 10/22/15 10:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Go for 3 grams.


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Re: Tips to avoid wigging out? [Re: HardTrippin] * 2
    #22420813 - 10/22/15 10:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Go for 3,5 grams, and when the fear comes, accept that it is a part of the experience, and it it will pass soon, then let go.

Alternatively, put on different music, start dancing, go to another room or outside... change the setting.
You'll be fine, low doses are pretty dreadful anyway.


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Re: Tips to avoid wigging out? [Re: HardTrippin]
    #22420827 - 10/22/15 10:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks HT.  I see you're from Canada too.  I'm out on the west coast.  Looks like marijuana laws are about to change with Trudeau getting in, eh.  Will see if it actually happens, but it's about bloody time.

As for the 3 grams...  Maybe I'll try 2.5 grams and can up it next go round.  Thanks for the input.


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Re: Tips to avoid wigging out? [Re: ranman]
    #22420855 - 10/22/15 11:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Man you even typed out the eh, I usually have to add it in my head for all the Canadians. I have to disagree with the rest of the responses in this thread though. As fun as eating 3.5g is if your already afraid you most likely will not have a good time. I would start with 2.5g like you said, that will give you some alright visuals and give you a chance to really dip your feet and get comfortable. The best way to not wig out is to not think about it. If you keep thinking about tripping bad or worrying something is wrong with your body your mind will make it so. Just remember you picked a safe substance to dabble in, you'll be alright.


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Re: Tips to avoid wigging out? [Re: puff4200]
    #22420954 - 10/22/15 11:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Stay tooned. Dig the scene. Ya' know what I mean?  Groovy baby.

I like good food and drinks.  To dance and sing.  Play around. Smiles and frowns. I like much of everything.



What is this "wigging out"?


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Re: Tips to avoid wigging out? [Re: WhoManBeing]
    #22421066 - 10/23/15 12:14 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I have a hard time with the anxiety sometimes.

I usually spend a little bit of time meditating before I ingest them, thinking about anything that's been on my mind lately.

Then I take them and meditate on what I hope to get out of the trip, how to overcome any negative thoughts.

Then I go for walk until I start to feel them come on.

Usually starts my mind off right.

Also I'm very cautious with what I eat the day of


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Re: Tips to avoid wigging out? [Re: alexmir]
    #22421432 - 10/23/15 04:46 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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alexmir said:
I have a hard time with the anxiety sometimes.

I usually spend a little bit of time meditating before I ingest them, thinking about anything that's been on my mind lately.

Then I take them and meditate on what I hope to get out of the trip, how to overcome any negative thoughts.

Then I go for walk until I start to feel them come on.

Usually starts my mind off right.

Also I'm very cautious with what I eat the day of




Solid advice.

I'd also like to say that taking a lower dose doesn't mean the trip will be any easier. Low doses usually cause really bumpy rides for me, while larger doses make it easier to surrender to the experience, know what I'm saying?


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Re: Tips to avoid wigging out? [Re: Turtletotem] * 1
    #22421592 - 10/23/15 06:16 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yep, and if you want take some paper and write anything that goes through your head on the comeup. If something that you write is bad : write a solution on the paper. Most of the things can be fixed. And write things that make you happy, why your day was awesome etc.. :thumbup:


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Re: Tips to avoid wigging out? [Re: bigpeat]
    #22421843 - 10/23/15 08:11 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Real anxiety (as opposed to just mild normal trip onset anxiety) can really be a bitch. There are plenty of folks on here that have tried various anti-anxiety techniques.

Might want to try:
-Vitamin B3 / Niacinamide
-Kava
-Theanine
-Lemon balm


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Re: Tips to avoid wigging out? [Re: gornyhuy]
    #22421859 - 10/23/15 08:16 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yes you should aim for a level 2 and if you follow these other's advice then you're going to shoot right past that. Remember that the worst part is the "comeup" or first couple hours and after it levels out, the anxiety subsides.


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Re: Tips to avoid wigging out? [Re: SoloTrip]
    #22422141 - 10/23/15 09:44 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Weed...:wonka:

...and beautiful pleasant music on comeup!:harp:


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Re: Tips to avoid wigging out? [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #22422842 - 10/23/15 12:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Benzos can be used to stop a trip, which is useful if you have a bad one. And just having them around may prevent or help you change a bad trip, because knowing you can stop a bad trip may help calm your anxieties and fears.


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Re: Tips to avoid wigging out? [Re: WChef]
    #22422966 - 10/23/15 01:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Have benzos with you and just know that you can make it at whenever you want to.

Unless you are so far out that you can't even reach into your own pocket and eat a pill..


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Re: Tips to avoid wigging out? [Re: SnowDaze]
    #22423281 - 10/23/15 02:29 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Xanax also helps when a bad time is inevitable.

Also, I realize that if I'm having bad thoughts about something I promise myself, and say outloud, that I will spend time thinking through the problem and attempting to solve it.


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Re: Tips to avoid wigging out? [Re: alexmir]
    #22423989 - 10/23/15 05:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yes there are scary things but the likelihood of real damage from mushrooms is low.

As I put it to some non-mushroomers one can eat their own body weight in mushrooms and not overdose. I think it's for a reason like weed it's extremely harmless.

Sometimes I think everything I've experienced so far has brought me to the now, so I'm fairly well prepared.


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Re: Tips to avoid wigging out? [Re: filthyknees]
    #22424598 - 10/23/15 08:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Purposley try to wig out, is what I would do. Idk if I would suggest it


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Re: Tips to avoid wigging out? [Re: whitelights]
    #22424622 - 10/23/15 08:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Accept and let go. If you think there's cops outside, just accept it and let it go. If you think your going to die, accept and let go.
That's something I've found very helpful when tripping hard and also something I've used and integrated into daily life. Peace :smile:


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Re: Tips to avoid wigging out? [Re: wolfiewolfie]
    #22424942 - 10/23/15 09:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

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Accept and let go. If you think there's cops outside, just accept it and let it go. If you think your going to die, accept and let go.
That's something I've found very helpful when tripping hard and also something I've used and integrated into daily life. Peace :smile:


Exactly this. :manofapproval:


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Re: Tips to avoid wigging out? [Re: SizlChest]
    #22425046 - 10/23/15 10:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

For me, if I'm able too and alone. I just lay down and play music. I know everything that happens when I'm tripping isn't real. I also try to isolate my environment and make sure I'm only tripping at night. That way, less chance of emergency and what not from other people. I mostly try to trip alone so it's easy.

I also take melatonin and smoke as necessary. But I take 5mg of melatonin during peak right when it becomes intense. I prefer to be more relaxed.


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Re: Tips to avoid wigging out? [Re: SizlChest] * 1
    #22425103 - 10/23/15 10:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I personally don't recommend mixing anything unless you're on solid ground to begin with. If you're nervous, definitely set up a "sitter" or at least someone who you can call on the phone if something starts to go downhill. Also, make sure your sitter understands psychedelics, as if they don't, they won't know how to help.

Initially, I never tripped alone. After years of mind-bending trips with friends I decided to dabble in tripping by myself. I decided to start light (1-1.5 grams) and do it early in the morning while I was gardening. Was a wonderful few times, but over-doing it will leave you searching for company or some form of entertainment and that's when I get in trouble.

Had a friend go too deep in Amsterdam on his first trip ever. I was an irresponsible "sitter" and gave him a full dose of fresh mushies for his first trip ever because that's what I enjoyed doing. Some fresh air and a candy bar did him really well, but it was scary for a bit.

My best advice is to be confident going in and start light. Everyone is different and you should be proud of who you are. Leave "meeting god" until you understand what it's all about. Practice breathing and relaxation techniques beforehand just in case you need them.

My worst trips have always been the strongest. My lighter trips have never gone wrong.:wink:


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Re: Tips to avoid wigging out? [Re: psylo-not]
    #22425730 - 10/24/15 03:17 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for all the input.  Just knowing that it's normal and lots of people experience it helps.


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Re: Tips to avoid wigging out? [Re: ranman] * 1
    #22426954 - 10/24/15 12:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Set and setting:firstladyofapproval:......not fucking benzos!:wonka::facepalm3:

....if u can't handle it...do less...or don't trip....ride the Steel breeze...!....don't kill the steel breeze with whack ass pharma!...:scaryshroom::gotchronic:


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