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Trans People in the Bathroom
#22420472 - 10/22/15 09:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Discuss.
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Re: Trans People in the Bathroom [Re: Rose] 1
#22420483 - 10/22/15 09:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Trans People in the Bathroom [Re: Rose] 3
#22420485 - 10/22/15 09:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Just make uni-sex bathrooms. Poof, problem disappears. Or in Sheekle terms, everybody goes pp, everybody goes poopy.
Edited by Angus McAxeHandle (10/22/15 09:42 PM)
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Re: Trans People in the Bathroom [Re: Rose]
#22420486 - 10/22/15 09:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Trans People in the Bathroom [Re: Rose]
#22420489 - 10/22/15 09:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's been all over the news in Houston lately. It doesn't bother me as I'm pretty sure I can handle it but I do see where some people are afraid sexual predators will take advantage of it.
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Re: Trans People in the Bathroom [Re: WyoMX] 3
#22420497 - 10/22/15 09:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you look like a dude, go in the dudes
If you look like a chick, go in the chicks
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Re: Trans People in the Bathroom [Re: Uzziel]
#22420501 - 10/22/15 09:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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what if u look like a dude dressed as a chick?
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Re: Trans People in the Bathroom [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22420515 - 10/22/15 09:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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makaveli8x8 said: what if u look like a dude dressed as a chick?
Well you either look like a dude or you look like a chick
If a dude wears a dress, he still looks like a dude... just.... a werid one.
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Re: Trans People in the Bathroom [Re: Uzziel]
#22420551 - 10/22/15 09:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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im not sure i would feel comfortable peeing next to a guy in a dress
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Angus McAxeHandle said: Just make uni-sex bathrooms. Poof, problem disappears.
Yeah this. Single-occupancy is simplest and tons already exist anyway, but stalls and a shared sink area could work if the stalls had proper floor-to-ceiling walls and doors instead of that sheet metal nonsense with gaps you can see through. Who really gives a fuck who else is washing their hands in the same area.
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Re: Trans People in the Bathroom [Re: makaveli8x8] 1
#22420572 - 10/22/15 09:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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makaveli8x8 said: im not sure i would feel comfortable peeing next to a guy in a dress
So go in a stall like all the other dudes who are too uncomfortable to piss next to another guy
Wtf
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Re: Trans People in the Bathroom [Re: Uzziel]
#22420574 - 10/22/15 09:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Uzziel said: If you look like a dude, go in the dudes
If you look like a chick, go in the chicks


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Re: Trans People in the Bathroom [Re: Rose] 1
#22420586 - 10/22/15 09:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Rose said: Discuss.
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Re: Trans People in the Bathroom [Re: Prisoner#1] 3
#22420596 - 10/22/15 10:00 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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ok... my part of the discussion
I dont care if they use the ladies room
I dont care if they use the men's room
if they use the men's room then will they give me a hand when I 'shake it more than twice'?
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Re: Trans People in the Bathroom [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22420632 - 10/22/15 10:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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i check out all the potential penises in public washrooms.
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Re: Trans People in the Bathroom [Re: Rose]
#22420713 - 10/22/15 10:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Id be all up in the womens toilet if I could get away with it
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Re: Trans People in the Bathroom [Re: psi]
#22420776 - 10/22/15 10:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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psi said:
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Angus McAxeHandle said: Just make uni-sex bathrooms. Poof, problem disappears.
Yeah this. Single-occupancy is simplest and tons already exist anyway, but stalls and a shared sink area could work if the stalls had proper floor-to-ceiling walls and doors instead of that sheet metal nonsense with gaps you can see through. Who really gives a fuck who else is washing their hands in the same area.
I know is it really so much to ask to be able to poop with some dignity stalls are for farm animals. Someone needs to revolutionize the way we peep and poop like Steve Jobs.
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Re: Trans People in the Bathroom [Re: Rose] 1
#22420797 - 10/22/15 10:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Rose said: Discuss.
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Re: Trans People in the Bathroom [Re: Beanhead]
#22420887 - 10/22/15 11:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you're FTM and can pee standing up without dropping your drawers around you ankles, go for it. Nobody will actually know. 
If you're MTF, as long as you don't look like a man in a dress, just sit down.
Or use a onesie. Probably the best solution but it would be dumb to make all public bathrooms onesies. Waste of space and time. I do think there should be a few available though.
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Re: Trans People in the Bathroom [Re: Soulidarity]
#22420907 - 10/22/15 11:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Soulidarity said: Id be all up in the womens toilet if I could get away with it
This is precisely why you cant.
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Re: Trans People in the Bathroom [Re: Soulidarity]
#22420926 - 10/22/15 11:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Soulidarity said: Id be all up in the womens toilet if I could get away with it
You want my exes number? That bitch never closed the bathroom door you'd love her.
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Re: Trans People in the Bathroom [Re: Rose]
#22420936 - 10/22/15 11:29 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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A big to Rose for starting a thread which may spark interesting discussion as well as a fair amount of crude potty humor.
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Re: Trans People in the Bathroom [Re: Uzziel]
#22421274 - 10/23/15 02:15 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Uzziel said:
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makaveli8x8 said: im not sure i would feel comfortable peeing next to a guy in a dress
So go in a stall like all the other dudes who are too uncomfortable to piss next to another guy
Wtf
why should i be forced to use a stall because someone decided to look like a women in the mens bathroom? Do men have less rights than women to privacy? Because the people thinking its ok for men to dress as ladys in the mens bathroom are most likely the same ones saying they shouldn't be in the ladys bathroom
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Re: Trans People in the Bathroom [Re: makaveli8x8] 1
#22421276 - 10/23/15 02:18 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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i'm uncomfortable with something that doesn't even effect my life, wahhhh.
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Re: Trans People in the Bathroom [Re: makaveli8x8] 1
#22421282 - 10/23/15 02:21 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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makaveli8x8 said:
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Uzziel said:
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makaveli8x8 said: im not sure i would feel comfortable peeing next to a guy in a dress
So go in a stall like all the other dudes who are too uncomfortable to piss next to another guy
Wtf
why should i be forced to use a stall because someone decided to look like a women in the mens bathroom? Do men have less rights than women to privacy? Because the people thinking its ok for men to dress as ladys in the mens bathroom are most likely the same ones saying they shouldn't be in the ladys bathroom
Damn, you are a mental midget if you can't handle a trans pissing next to you. Grow a pair.
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but what if he's semi hot and i get an erection and then i can't piss for 5 minutes? Are you a complete feminist or only part time?
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Re: Trans People in the Bathroom [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22421292 - 10/23/15 02:27 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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there's a reason bathrooms were seperate for all of modern society, its akward and an invasion of privacy for both partys. trannys come out and all the sudden that all gets thrown out the window?
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Re: Trans People in the Bathroom [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22421294 - 10/23/15 02:28 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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makaveli8x8 said: but what if he's semi hot and i get an erection and then i can't piss for 5 minutes? Are you a complete feminist or only part time?
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Re: Trans People in the Bathroom [Re: akira_akuma] 1
#22421315 - 10/23/15 02:49 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't see the other people in a public bathroom, I am too focussed on my own business.
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Re: Trans People in the Bathroom [Re: Turtletotem]
#22421316 - 10/23/15 02:51 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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not me....
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Re: Trans People in the Bathroom [Re: Rose] 1
#22421325 - 10/23/15 03:01 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Men becoming women can go use the women's bathroom. Keep the women out of the men's bathroom though.
For the longest it was part of my job duties to clean up both the men's and women's bathrooms and the women's was consistently far worse. I don't want them coming in and dirtying up a restroom I have to use. 
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22272013#22272013
Not kidding or making jokes. Dead serious. The things I've seen in the women's restroom is almost traumatizing.
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Re: Trans People in the Bathroom [Re: Shroomslip]
#22421425 - 10/23/15 04:32 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's being made into an enormous deal here in houston. Signs everywhere for it
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Re: Trans People in the Bathroom [Re: alexmir]
#22421458 - 10/23/15 05:10 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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alexmir said: It's being made into an enormous deal here in houston. Signs everywhere for it
Yup. I don't see a big deal about the bathrooms. The thing is, she is also pushing for allowing TG to choose the changing room they want to use. The argument against is that sexual predators might pretend to be TG and, say, go into a locker room in a gym and look at a young girls changing.
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Re: Trans People in the Bathroom [Re: Rose]
#22421465 - 10/23/15 05:15 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Rose said: Discuss.
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Re: Trans People in the Bathroom [Re: morrowasted]
#22421467 - 10/23/15 05:16 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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but looking at young boys is totally cool
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Re: Trans People in the Bathroom [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22421473 - 10/23/15 05:23 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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im gunna have to disagree and say that ones the most civilized. If both genders can use the same bathroom then at least everyone has to suffer the same privacy issues, so at least that part its fair. Then mass media wants us to think everyone is racist and will always be racist and won't let the shit die off by constantly being racism up......so if thats the case then seperating whites from blacks is actually a smart thing to do.
If people can pull the tranny card, then lets pull the black and white card, lets make 2 seperate identical worlds, ones for blacks, one for whites. problem solved, racism ended, peace on earth. honestly its the best thing to do since we obviously will never be able to live peacefully together, if people are always fighting what do u do, throw them together or seperate them?
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Re: Trans People in the Bathroom [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22421488 - 10/23/15 05:31 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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If people can pull the tranny card, then lets pull the black and white card, lets make 2 seperate identical worlds, ones for blacks, one for whites. problem solved, racism ended, peace on earth.
Dude, pull the tranny card?
Transgendered people, feminists and ethnic minorities want equal treatment for the most part.
Segregation is a troglodyte solution for refusal of people to get along and give each other some space.
And what the fuck is civilized about bunching all the people of the world together under the label "colored and setting them apart from white people? Thats incredible racist.
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Re: Trans People in the Bathroom [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22421492 - 10/23/15 05:32 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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You don't get what civil means. Civil means no conflict. What your proposing is the definition of conflict. A multi gendered bathroom implies there is no conflict, which does make it the most civil. Attitudes like yours are partly why people don't get along.
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Re: Trans People in the Bathroom [Re: Asante]
#22421497 - 10/23/15 05:34 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Asante said:
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Rose said: Discuss.
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As long as I can still piss standing up at the urinal I'd have no problem with it. They do away with them I'll just piss in the sink.
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Re: Trans People in the Bathroom [Re: deucedbi9]
#22421510 - 10/23/15 05:42 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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STORY TIME
one I went in the Men's bathroom at my Uni and there was a girl standing by the sinks fiddling around on her IPad. I said, "Oh, hey, this is the men's bathroom." She blew up: "SERIOUSLY?! I'M A DUDE!!" I was like "oh, ok" and just went and took a piss and left. a week later our uni newspaper ran an article about TGs being "harrassed" in the bathrooms so they were going to build unisex bathrooms on campus. I don't know if incident was involved but shit. She was just standing there using her IPad, not even using the restroom. It was like she was TRYING to start conflict. Plus she didn't like TG at all, she had shoulder length hair, and fairly well-fitting jeans...
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Re: Trans People in the Bathroom [Re: Asante]
#22421517 - 10/23/15 05:46 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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yes pull the tranny card . Trannys want to claim they are born that way or whatever, ok fine, u were born different, so then why try to claim you are the same as female or male? its fine if your different but its like trying to get the best of both worlds.
and no in my opinion they do not want equal treatment for the most part, everyone blatently showcasing their 'group' to the world is seeking special treatment and attention. If they wanted equal treatment they would hush up and try to fit in and be like everyone else, and not rub it in everyones face left and right.
white males have more equal rights issues than all of those groups combined, but we don't even have a dam group to identify with, wanna know why, cuss we arn't seeking special treatment, we seek equal treatment and we approach it just like i said, by hushing up and trying to fit in naturally.
its not logical to think 2 groups of people that have fought from their very first meeting until now that something will suddenly change, thats the definition of crazy. It goes all the way down into our genes, people just don't like things that are different than them, its part of evolution, we are designed to hate things that are different, we are designed to seek those like us and to cast out those different to survive. that will never change, because were all born with that, thats the one way we are all alike. we all discriminate in some way weither we admit it or not even among our own sex's and races.
and incase u didn't notice society is already segregating itself. nerds all sit in one corner, muscle heads in another, wine sippers over there, druggies over here, ect ect. Then news articles pop up, everyone attacks out of discrimination, cops for example. Nobody really gives a fuck about that discrimination, people pick and choose what they feel is acceptable to discriminate against.......but logically you should either be for or against discriminate period. but most people arn't. society makes exceptions to attack certain groups.
so society already segregates, which leads to outcasts, all these little groups and PC movements and a large part of the population is still getting screwed by not being given the chance to fit in, no savior groups for them. no special bathrooms and perks for losers
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You are probably the most misinformed person on the Shroomery.
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u are prolly still butthurtz and trolling like usual. 2 comments in 1 day trying to degrade me rather than debate. grow up already kid.
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Re: Trans People in the Bathroom [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22421533 - 10/23/15 05:51 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm not butthurt, I just think the whole shroomery should know you want to legalize rape, just for the lulz. I think its funny.
You don't want civility, you want tons of different warring factions.
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its fine if your different but its like trying to get the best of both worlds.
you are so retarded it is funny
maybe u just can't read? lets do a test and check, can u explain what i was referring to by best of both worlds? ready set go. then tell me why that would make me retarded when it clearly showcases that is what they are doing.
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You don't want civility, you want tons of different warring factions.
see there it is butthurt, 2 months and you are still following me around harrassing me
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its fine if your different but its like trying to get the best of both worlds.
you are so retarded it is funny
maybe u just can't read? lets do a test and check, can u explain what i was referring to by best of both worlds? ready set go. then tell me why that would make me retarded when it clearly showcases that is what they are doing.
thanks for making it obvious that I should never waste my time engaging in a discussion with you again
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Re: Trans People in the Bathroom [Re: makaveli8x8]
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It's not harassment if it is true. Anyway, I remained convinced you prefer segregation and conflict over harmony and respect.
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Could you elucidate what you mean by "get the best of both worlds" ? You're talking about people seeking to transition from one group to another, and be accepted naturally in the group where they feel appropriate -- not individuals trying to straddle both groups. Are you thinking of androgynous or non-binary individuals?
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Re: Trans People in the Bathroom [Re: Tantrika]
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the funny thing is that they get the worst of both worlds
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do u even know what harassment is? and its not true, you just like pretending it is because you think it makes u a white knight justice warrior and free reign to troll someone without repercussions
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makaveli8x8 said: yes pull the tranny card . Trannys want to claim they are born that way or whatever, ok fine, u were born different, so then why try to claim you are the same as female or male? its fine if your different but its like trying to get the best of both worlds. ...
Could you elucidate what you mean by "get the best of both worlds" ? You're talking about people seeking to transition from one group to another, and be accepted naturally in the group where they feel appropriate -- not individuals trying to straddle both groups. Are you thinking of androgynous or non-binary individuals?
because they arn't a women and they arn't a man. By being a tranny they are saying they were born different than a man or a women. They have man parts, but wish they were female, or have female desires....however u want to look at it. They can choose to be identified as female, but they arn't genetically female, they arn't biologically female, they are different, which is cool and fine and all that jazz. But they should then accept that they are different, and that it might make both women and men uncomfortable to have them in the bathroom together. They want to be accepted as different, that means they need to accept what they are. They shouldn't be in a mens bathroom because those are who they are trying to attact right? and so just like women they shouldn't be in the same bathroom as men following current society culture. So but because they are different from women, they should also accept they shouldn't be in the girls room, they want the best of both worlds by trying to get into either of them, 'both' because they wanted accepted as 'different', and then they go and want accepted as being able to go into either of those rooms. I get that you guys are hinging on the want to be female part, but unless their dick is chopped off im afraid your point is invalid.
if they have no penis, then in my book by all means go ahead and go to the female room
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how much crack would you say you smoke on a daily basis?
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Re: Trans People in the Bathroom [Re: morrowasted]
#22421609 - 10/23/15 06:21 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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He should move to the middle east, his world views aren't SO different from ISIS.
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u mean not so different from americans from less than 100 years ago? except im not even saying like that, if everyone is treated equally whats the problem?
if anything you are like isis, because what you want causes deaths.
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Re: Trans People in the Bathroom [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22421613 - 10/23/15 06:24 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Separate is not equal.
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your brain must be really small? if both are seperate then both are seperate equally or are u trying to make shit up again to suit your needs and thought i meant whites should sit in the front and blacks in the back?
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Why are you even engaging him?
He is either legitimately borderline retarded, or one of the best trolls on the forum
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Re: Trans People in the Bathroom [Re: makaveli8x8]
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So should black people have their own courts? Should trans people have their own courts?
You must have a really small wee-wee because legalizing rape would be the only way you could get some sex.
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Re: Trans People in the Bathroom [Re: morrowasted]
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He is either legitimately borderline retarded, or one of the best trolls on the forum
As an artist, like a moth to a flame I am drawn to stupidity and or arguments, for there is a lot of humor and things I can incorporate in my art to be mined. Basically, I'm addicted to mining. So far makaveli is just providing me with dirt. No gems. YET.
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so im guessing there is some kind of issue you are having trying to wrap your head around what the word seperate means? yes, it obviously means they have their own courts, their own mcdonalds, their own bathrooms, and their own guns.
u can even take it a step further and say seperate men from women. the more seperate people are the less different they are. if everyone around u is similar, u have alot less to fight about, which is why america has some of the most violence in the world because there are so many different people living here. its simple logic, it would also fix our overpopulation problem. then in 100 years take the walls down, everyone would have forgotten history and racism, and finally there would be real peace. but such simple minds can't grasp such a genius plan because your bred with hatrid and want so badly for it to continue subconciously.
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Hell while we are at it let's just separate everyone. every person gets their own government, their own mcdonalds, their own courts, their own guns, their own piece of land. sounds peachy
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Re: Trans People in the Bathroom [Re: makaveli8x8]
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So you separate people by race, or religion, then hair color, what about blood type, people will fight over that, too. Separate people by the sports team the like, and also by Stars Wars or Star Trek (What about the people who like Star Gate? You just want to change what people hate.
Your world views are unrealistic, bleak and dangerous to all and dangerous to the general sense of peace most people share.
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Re: Trans People in the Bathroom [Re: makaveli8x8]
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The idea behind transitioning is that they accept who they are, but may be having to undergo various processes for others to accept who they are. Being identified and discriminated against as 'different' is exactly the issue that leads trans individuals to seek to be accepted as trans as well. If they were already accepted for who they are, there would be no struggle involved. Since that struggle is already involved, they have to seek additional acceptance for the process of transition.
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What makes you presume that a person's gender is directly tied to their sexuality? What is your stance on homosexual men and women using the bathrooms of the genders they are trying to attract?
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if they have no penis, then in my book by all means go ahead and go to the female room
They want to be accepted as being able to go into the room of the gender they identify with. The realization that people may more readily discriminate against them for doing so means needing to seek to be accepted in the other room instead.
While I am certain there are a lot of individuals that would love to be able to afford the entirety of their transition in one go, it leads me to ask -- where do you feel they should be while in the middle?
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Your world views are unrealistic, bleak and dangerous to all and dangerous to the general sense of peace most people share.
no its only unrealistic when you go crazy and start talking nonsense. i said the more seperate people are the less they have to argue about, which is 100% correct. But never did i said it was logical to break it down that far, i think this is a recurring problem you have apollo. You have this deep mental issue where you have to put words into peoples mouths so u have something to argue about which boils down to your impotence in the ability to debate. You should really spend less time playing with toys, and more time polishing your debate skills.
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Re: Trans People in the Bathroom [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22421679 - 10/23/15 06:58 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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My point was that people will just change what they argue about. Separating people (which requires military and police force to do so) is something I consider unethical. You will not find a way to separate people that is peaceful.
You are question dodger, and often misinterpret what people are saying, without asking for clarification, like in this case here. I do like playing with toys, kinda like how I'm playing you.
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no its very clear that people have different degree's of anger, you are comparing hair color to racism and separating people does not 'require' military or police anymore than any other law would, unless u consider all laws unethical?
and no i didn't misinterpret anything, you were trying to degrade my point by taking it to a ridiculous extreme and did so further by putting words into my mouth. funny that you would then try to say its me misunderstanding people
im still waiting for u to make 1 good point
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maybe a good place to start would be telling me one other way to kill racism off for good that would actually work
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#22421712 - 10/23/15 07:14 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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lol right, forcing people to separate definitely wouldn't necessitate the same level of military intervention that enforcing traffic tickets does. no siree.
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why would it? if your racist you finally don't have to worry about those dam people keeping u down in life. if your not racist, you shouldn't give a rats ass anyway. The only people that will care is the internet warriors like morrowasted who like to smash keyboards
a couple hundred years ago u might have had a point, wars were fought trying to do the opposite of what i suggest. but here im talking about making everything equal which is what people want, so why would they ever fight it, there is no reason which is why it wouldn't happen
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I'm from a multi cultural, multi ethnic family. And we get along fine. Maybe it's actually the people who are causing violence who should be blamed, and not the fact that it's because they look kinda different.
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#22421733 - 10/23/15 07:27 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Here is a picture of my gf. She is MTF and uses the woman's bathroom all the time. No one even notices. Hell she gets checked out a lot.
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She looks both masculine and feminine. No more than any other female tbh. Is she on T blockers?
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Re: Trans People in the Bathroom [Re: makaveli8x8]
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They should make more bathrooms. I think five would work. cis male, cis female, trans male, trans female and one for undecided.
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Yes she is. It is really hard to loose the masculine features all together.
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Yup. I don't see a big deal about the bathrooms. The thing is, she is also pushing for allowing TG to choose the changing room they want to use. The argument against is that sexual predators might pretend to be TG and, say, go into a locker room in a gym and look at a young girls changing.
They should probably just get rid of shared changing and shower areas altogether IMO. Even aside from the transgender issue, I think a lot of people would prefer to change and shower in a private area anyway.
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i agree, but the problem is they are being trained from birth to be racist, they grow up racist in return obviously, and this in turn causes horrible ineractions with who they are racist against which reinforced their racism and in turn gets passed on again.
Seperation until we forget about racism and it stops getting taught to kids is really one of the very few ways of fixing it, and the only one thats been offered in this thread, and surely one won't be provided by those 'simple' minded folk which such strong opinions against it followed by attacks.
the only other option is to take children away from parents after a certain young age and remove parents from the equation so it can't be passed on, pick your poison
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