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asset forfeiture
    #2242036 - 01/14/04 05:16 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

a prime example of a government that's gotten
too big for it's britches.

preying on the population, using fear tactics and
the threat of towering legal fees and endless court
battles, nearly every agency of the government is
guilty in some way shape or form of stealing from
the citizenry.

"Much like a drug addict becomes addicted to drugs,
law enforcement agencies have become dependent
on asset forfeitures. They have to have it."

--Gary Schons, former California Deputy Attorney General.

FACT: A 1991 study showed that more than 80% of
people who had their property seized by the federal
government were never even charged with a crime.

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Re: asset forfeiture [Re: afoaf]
    #2242078 - 01/14/04 05:29 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Good subject. This is what happens when people whine and scream for government to get involved in nearly every aspect of life.

People have gotten just what they wanted. And deserve.

It's just too bad the rest of us have to suffer alongside them.

You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: asset forfeiture [Re: afoaf]
    #2242276 - 01/14/04 06:45 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Even the completely innocent's property can be seized if some gov't agency suspects (you dont have to be formally charged) of its use as an accessory to a crime or it was purchased with assets made off of illegal activity.

The supreme court set this precedent in Bennis v. Michigan (1996) when a woman had to forfiet her car over to the state because her husband used it to pick up a prostitute and was arrested and convicted for it.

Something for all you highschool PF Tek'ers out there growing in your parents' house to think about, eh?

Governmental corruption at its worst.....

If it weren't for the bloody corpses, I wouldn't have any corpses at all.

There are two ways to get to the top of an oak tree: start climbing or sit on an acorn.

Are you a carrot, an egg, or a coffee bean?

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Re: asset forfeiture [Re: MrBump]
    #2242524 - 01/14/04 09:02 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

it can be something as meritless as a tip from an
informant given in an effort to garner leniency.

funny how heresay is acceptable when it comes to
lining the g-man's pockets.

what's even more despicable is that many agencies
actually have quarterly quotas and seizure goals.

the IRS is probably the worst offender if not only
because they have the means of freezing every
penny of your assets.

All I know is The Growery is a place where losers who get banned here go.

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Re: asset forfeiture [Re: afoaf]
    #2243597 - 01/15/04 10:53 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)


it can be something as meritless as a tip from an
informant given in an effort to garner leniency.

about 80% of assett seizures under the RICO Act were from people that were never convicted, none of the assets were returned, that would be an admission that they were wrong

*edit* I'm a dumbass

Edited by Granola (01/15/04 10:56 AM)

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