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Anonymous #1

Wireless carrier accidentally shipped several iPhones S Plus's to me - sellable?
    #22419170 - 10/22/15 05:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

So a wireless carrier somehow accidentally shipped 2 brand new iphone 6s's to a previous address, with my name on them, and myself nor anyone I really know has this carrier - Noone signed for the delivery.

These things are going for $800-$1000 each, and I'm wondering if these are resellable, or if the carrier can do like a remote lock on them? And how the fuck does this even happen?

I'm like thrilled that it was in my name and address, the paperwork inside was congratulating me on my new iPhones, and I have had no communication with this carrier at all outside of this. No disclaimers in the box about agreements, came with several return envelopes for the current carriers "old" devices.

If it was in my name, theres no mail stealing shit possible that I foresee, did I just win a small lottery? I've double checked email, bank accounts, everything to make sure I didn't black out and order service from this carrier. I am so excited and confused right now.


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Anonymous #2

Re: Wireless carrier accidentally shipped several iPhones S Plus's to me - sellable? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22419909 - 10/22/15 07:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

so i repair and buy iphones for a job, as long as they are new in the box, they wont be bonded to an icloud account and wont be attached to a number, so you should be able to use and or sell them...

they do have individual IMEI and serial numbers, but i dont think they track that, or will even lock them out or use that data in any way.

odd that they would show up on your doorstep like that though...


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Anonymous #1

Re: Wireless carrier accidentally shipped several iPhones S Plus's to me - sellable? [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #22420162 - 10/22/15 08:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #2 said:
so i repair and buy iphones for a job, as long as they are new in the box, they wont be bonded to an icloud account and wont be attached to a number, so you should be able to use and or sell them...

they do have individual IMEI and serial numbers, but i dont think they track that, or will even lock them out or use that data in any way.

odd that they would show up on your doorstep like that though...




I had this carrier maybe 15 years ago in another state, and at second glance of the shipping labels  begin with a phone # in an area code I lived in 15 years ago when I was with this particular carrier.

I can't explain it but the paperwork is all legit looking as can be, a return envelope for each old / recycled device, order numbers and shit right on the box.

I cannot explain, but desperately could use some extra money right now if there is no real repercussions, what do you guys think?


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Anonymous #3

Re: Wireless carrier accidentally shipped several iPhones S Plus's to me - sellable? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22421039 - 10/23/15 12:05 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

If it's your name and address, you should be good. You're not keeping mail that was addressed to someone else, they were sent to you specifically. For all you know a friend ordered them for you, or it was some kind of random promotion. :shrug: Company's fault, not yours. Google says you're not obligated to return the merchandise or even contact the company and let them know you received something in error. They also can't force you to pay for the stuff if you refuse to give it back. It did say it's a good idea to write them and let them know you received it in error and will not be returning it, to help keep them from trying to scare you into paying.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Wireless carrier accidentally shipped several iPhones S Plus's to me - sellable? [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #22421160 - 10/23/15 12:52 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah that is essentially what I read, minus the last part about writing a letter to the company, thanks for posting up! I could so use a nest egg right now, if its all good and legal, this is like a small miracle given the odds of this kind of mistake happening.

I so hope this all pans out, thanks again and any other input appreciated!


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Anonymous #3

Re: Wireless carrier accidentally shipped several iPhones S Plus's to me - sellable? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22421171 - 10/23/15 01:00 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I wish I were that lucky. I've had companies screw up and send me shit I didn't technically order, but it was never anything that valuable or stuff people would really buy.

Last one was I ordered some new Kanger Twist ecig batteries, after placing the order, I realized I had forgotten to include a charger (so I could have one for car and house) in the order and emailed the company to see if they could just add it in for me. They did. Not sure how the mix up happened, but my order was for two batteries and one charger. I ended up getting 4 batteries and 2 chargers. Weren't exactly "cheap" so I don't think they just threw them in for the hell of it. At the time, it was well over 50 dollars worth of stuff.


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Anonymous #4

Re: Wireless carrier accidentally shipped several iPhones S Plus's to me - sellable? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22421951 - 10/23/15 08:50 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Nothing is free. They may want them back or money for them.


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Anonymous #5

Re: Wireless carrier accidentally shipped several iPhones S Plus's to me - sellable? [Re: Anonymous #4] * 1
    #22421962 - 10/23/15 08:53 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Trade them for some cocaine and call it a day.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Wireless carrier accidentally shipped several iPhones S Plus's to me - sellable? [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #22422051 - 10/23/15 09:23 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #4 said:
Nothing is free. They may want them back or money for them.




That is what I'm saying though, I don't live there at all anymore, my old roommate called and told me I got a package and I went and grabbed it.

I've read online that carrier services can't really do shit in this type of situation and I am starting to believe it to be true, as what are they really going to do? Notify local authorities that they sent me a couple phones with no invoice of any kind for them, and I didn't give them back?


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Anonymous #4

Re: Wireless carrier accidentally shipped several iPhones S Plus's to me - sellable? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22422194 - 10/23/15 09:57 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)



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Anonymous #1

Re: Wireless carrier accidentally shipped several iPhones S Plus's to me - sellable? [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #22423394 - 10/23/15 03:16 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I appreciate the link the the FTC page!

EDIT:

So I found the icloud site to check if the phones are locked for activation, and both are unlocked, so it looks good to go. Does this mean it would be unlocked to activate with any carrier, or does this just mean it was not locked by apple as lost / stolen and can be activated by the carrier that sold it?

I am sorry, I really don't know shit about expensive phones, so any info on the matter is much appreciated!


Edited by Anonymous (10/23/15 03:34 PM)


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Anonymous #6

Re: Wireless carrier accidentally shipped several iPhones S Plus's to me - sellable? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22424846 - 10/23/15 09:16 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

sell them bitches. its the fbi running a setup move


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Anonymous #7

Re: Wireless carrier accidentally shipped several iPhones S Plus's to me - sellable? [Re: Anonymous #6]
    #22425466 - 10/24/15 12:36 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Dude you're one lucky SOB


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Anonymous #3

Re: Wireless carrier accidentally shipped several iPhones S Plus's to me - sellable? [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #22425477 - 10/24/15 12:42 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yep. If it had been money the bank put in your account by accident, it's considered theft if you spend it and you're expected to pay it back. However from what I read, federal and state (not sure if all states) law prevents companies from compelling people to pay for merchandise that was erroneously sent specifically to them, regardless of it being an error on the company's end. You're not even under any legal obligation to send it back or even notify them of the mistake.

Seems like a double standard but you won't see me picketing to get the law changed. :lol:


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Anonymous #1

Re: Wireless carrier accidentally shipped several iPhones S Plus's to me - sellable? [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #22425707 - 10/24/15 03:04 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

This really is such a surreal situation that I'm having trouble on how to approach selling them, as they show unlocked on the icloud site, and I am watching them sell over $1k all day on ebay for the 128GB models I received.

I'm sketch about a craigslist face to face sale cause if someone tries to activate it on the spot, will it work, or if I try to sell it on any sort of escrow site like ebay is it going to work for the buyer?

Any ideas on how best to dump these? I was actually thinking ebay worldwide, cause I know people across the pond will dump big money for apple products, but I'm just not sure at all about how to approach this.

Getting sent several of the most expensive phones on the planet in my name out of nowhere is baffling to me, the fact that keeping them is not illegal is even more baffling to me, I'm just still in shock that I basically got a box filled with cash that I don't have to return.


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Anonymous #8

Re: Wireless carrier accidentally shipped several iPhones S Plus's to me - sellable? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22425972 - 10/24/15 06:21 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
This really is such a surreal situation that I'm having trouble on how to approach selling them, as they show unlocked on the icloud site, and I am watching them sell over $1k all day on ebay for the 128GB models I received.

I'm sketch about a craigslist face to face sale cause if someone tries to activate it on the spot, will it work, or if I try to sell it on any sort of escrow site like ebay is it going to work for the buyer?

Any ideas on how best to dump these? I was actually thinking ebay worldwide, cause I know people across the pond will dump big money for apple products, but I'm just not sure at all about how to approach this.

Getting sent several of the most expensive phones on the planet in my name out of nowhere is baffling to me, the fact that keeping them is not illegal is even more baffling to me, I'm just still in shock that I basically got a box filled with cash that I don't have to return.




Someone loves you :heart:


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Anonymous #9

Re: Wireless carrier accidentally shipped several iPhones S Plus's to me - sellable? [Re: Anonymous #8]
    #22426032 - 10/24/15 07:04 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I had something similar happen, well, not really, but same sort of concept.

Take it as the world giving you a break, helping you out; The universe is giving you a present, sell those things and make yourself a little better off for it! :cheers:

I'd go EBay if I was selling, as long as you already have an account with feedback.

It looks dodgy people selling things sch as a brand new IPhone with 0 feedback no previous transactions and a recent join date...

Even saying that I'd still go ebay :shrug:

Good on ya :evil:


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Anonymous #1

Re: Wireless carrier accidentally shipped several iPhones S Plus's to me - sellable? [Re: Anonymous #9]
    #22427178 - 10/24/15 12:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #9 said:
I had something similar happen, well, not really, but same sort of concept.

Take it as the world giving you a break, helping you out; The universe is giving you a present, sell those things and make yourself a little better off for it! :cheers:

I'd go EBay if I was selling, as long as you already have an account with feedback.

It looks dodgy people selling things sch as a brand new IPhone with 0 feedback no previous transactions and a recent join date...

Even saying that I'd still go ebay :shrug:

Good on ya :evil:




Fortunately I have an acct with good standings on ebay, and I believe that is unfortunately the way to go. Had a bite on CL for one of the devices, an older woman buying it for a family member with $1000 in hand, but they requested to meet at the fucking carriers store. I called the store posing as an iffy buyer in the scenario I was about to walk into as the seller, and they said yes they can look up and verify the device with buyer / seller present, but did not elaborate on how they would do so.

I don't need money for a drug fix or anything, but I've spread my own money so thin helping out friends in desperate need, I've kind of dug my own grave. So when someone they will give $1000 for a joint, but you have to meet them at a police station, it's easy to start rationalizing ways you can make it work.

That kind of shitted on my morning having that $1k on the hook but knowing better than to bite, never imagined this whole situation would actually produce stress about money, so I'm going to just dump on the bay or else where and take what I can get.

Thank you for the vibes, it's helped ease my mind about all this weird shit :toast:


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Anonymous #10

Re: Wireless carrier accidentally shipped several iPhones S Plus's to me - sellable? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22429278 - 10/24/15 08:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

worst case scenario you say you never received any phones. You said you didn't sign so fuck it. Free money bro, congrats.


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Anonymous #8

Re: Wireless carrier accidentally shipped several iPhones S Plus's to me - sellable? [Re: Anonymous #10]
    #22429532 - 10/24/15 09:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Send one to me? You know good karma and shit :wink:


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Anonymous #11

Re: Wireless carrier accidentally shipped several iPhones S Plus's to me - sellable? [Re: Anonymous #8]
    #22436814 - 10/26/15 05:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Could unlock them for all sim cards and bring a random sim card and show the buyer it works on different carrier ,eventually someone will buy it without going to any store to check or u could have them sit next to u at a coffee shop and check imei on a site that checks if there locked or blacklisted may be enough to reassure them


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Anonymous #12

Re: Wireless carrier accidentally shipped several iPhones S Plus's to me - sellable? [Re: Anonymous #11]
    #22448414 - 10/29/15 09:09 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

God himself will take an eternal SHIT upon you, mortal fool!

Hand yourself in NOWW!


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Anonymous #1

Re: Wireless carrier accidentally shipped several iPhones S Plus's to me - sellable? [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #22450429 - 10/29/15 06:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

So I actually got a bill from the carrier for new service activation and all that shit, and they believed ot was fraud related, so they got my info and cancelled the plans. When asked if I received any devices I said no, and they didn't really question me beyond that.

I went on one of the major creditors and pulled up my permanent record, no real activity aside from the phone thing, put the fraud alert out just in case and cancelled the damn ebay auction cause now I have this fraud shit to think about in terms of selling them.

I opened one up to try swapping sim cards to see if its unlocked but found they use micro-sim cards, I assume I'd definitely want those out before fucking with selling them.

So I come back around to square 1 with identity theft / fraud now in the mix, if I offloaded them on ebay, do you think a carrier would call oit someone trying to activate it, and back to me over ebay? I almost had both these bitches sold too before any of this fraud shit popped up. Damn it all.


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Anonymous #4

Re: Wireless carrier accidentally shipped several iPhones S Plus's to me - sellable? [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #22452314 - 10/30/15 05:44 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #4 said:
Nothing is free. They may want them back or money for them.




:failboat:


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Anonymous #3

Re: Wireless carrier accidentally shipped several iPhones S Plus's to me - sellable? [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #22452330 - 10/30/15 05:51 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The fraud aspect might change things. I really don't know though. The general idea of being able to keep whatever a company sends you that you did not order, stems from it being their screw up. Which is why it gets iffy. Is buying into the fraud and sending you what you didn't order their screw up/responsibility? Argument can go both ways. If they put some kind of check in place to make sure you did order this stuff, it wouldn't have happened. At the same time, there's no guarantee if they did, they would discover the fraud.

I'd ask Enlil. He's the most likely person to understand the law and how it pertains to you in this case.


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Anonymous #9

Re: Wireless carrier accidentally shipped several iPhones S Plus's to me - sellable? [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #22465531 - 11/02/15 07:01 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Sorry to hear about the fraud :hug:

Unlock the phones, swap networks over, wait a while, put them back on after the fraud stuff dies down
OR
If you just want quick cash maybe try a pawnshop, some of them can ooffer decent prices and no more than a debit card/signature, and some should do it with no ID if you give them a good price :wink:
OR
Message the people who had already bought the phones on ebay, tell them some sob story like tell them about the fraud etc & say it shut down the listings for xyz reason; Then ask them if they still wanted the phones, but just through paypal. Include your paypal address in it, you cannot enter in, say, anon@email.com, you have to say it like, ' anonat the mail of xyz (whatever your provider is) .com' , if you don't ebay doesn't let you send the message.
Dont forget, remind them that they are still protected buy paypals buyer guarantee, and if all is well, you can knock off a few $ (it's cheaper w/out ebay fees), still get most of your money, they get a new, unlocked (which increases the value a good bit BTW) Iphone. Everybody is a winner except the fraudsters and the bank.

I would go with the last one if I where you

UNLESS you can find a cash buyer. Having $1000 go into your bank days after this fraud and saying you hadn't received them, looks a bit dodgy.

Actually, I think if you kept the money in your Paypal account for a while and gradually withdraw it to the bank or use it online you should be OK.

Hell, if you want to be really discreet, put it on one of those darknet sites for a knockoff price :shrug:


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Anonymous #13

Re: Wireless carrier accidentally shipped several iPhones S Plus's to me - sellable? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22465555 - 11/02/15 07:15 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I had a carrier not long ago send me two replacement phones by mistake too. It happens I guess? Anyway, I was actively requesting a replacement phone and they knew they sent me two by mistake and told me to just keep the one I wanted and send the others back. Maybe you've hit the mini lotto. Congrats.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Wireless carrier accidentally shipped several iPhones S Plus's to me - sellable? [Re: Anonymous #9]
    #22466195 - 11/02/15 10:58 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #9 said:
Sorry to hear about the fraud :hug:

Unlock the phones, swap networks over, wait a while, put them back on after the fraud stuff dies down
OR
If you just want quick cash maybe try a pawnshop, some of them can ooffer decent prices and no more than a debit card/signature, and some should do it with no ID if you give them a good price :wink:
OR
Message the people who had already bought the phones on ebay, tell them some sob story like tell them about the fraud etc & say it shut down the listings for xyz reason; Then ask them if they still wanted the phones, but just through paypal. Include your paypal address in it, you cannot enter in, say, anon@email.com, you have to say it like, ' anonat the mail of xyz (whatever your provider is) .com' , if you don't ebay doesn't let you send the message.
Dont forget, remind them that they are still protected buy paypals buyer guarantee, and if all is well, you can knock off a few $ (it's cheaper w/out ebay fees), still get most of your money, they get a new, unlocked (which increases the value a good bit BTW) Iphone. Everybody is a winner except the fraudsters and the bank.

I would go with the last one if I where you

UNLESS you can find a cash buyer. Having $1000 go into your bank days after this fraud and saying you hadn't received them, looks a bit dodgy.

Actually, I think if you kept the money in your Paypal account for a while and gradually withdraw it to the bank or use it online you should be OK.

Hell, if you want to be really discreet, put it on one of those darknet sites for a knockoff price :shrug:




I have researched quite a bit, but didn't find any sites that didn't look like bull shit to perform a carrier unlock, apparently that is a REAL pain in the ass if you are new to it.

I was almost considering once again opening the phone to international bids on ebay, bit that just seems like extra hassle for the possibility of extra scam.

I thought of pawn shops as well but I figure they must have carrier numbers to call and verify devices aren't stolen if they're getting a brand new latest and greatest phone.

The ultimate question is, beyond the SIM, is there any numbers the carrier holds onto to ID the device? I would think the serial number, but I would also think it would show a carrier lock on the icloud site if it was flagged, I would have a hard time believing they are leaving it unlocled just waiting for it to be activated to spring a trap.

I also considered calling the carrier (from a random phone #), and saying there is an iphone for the network on ebay that shows carrier unlocled on the icloud site  and if that means its good to buy.


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Anonymous #2

Re: Wireless carrier accidentally shipped several iPhones S Plus's to me - sellable? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22493719 - 11/08/15 12:43 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

is there any numbers the carrier holds onto to ID the device?




aside from the serial number, there is the IMEI and MEID. you can see them all in Settings > General > About

really though, apple doesnt even make a publicly accessible record of stolen devices, its why strong arm robberies of apple products is so common. If its not locked to an icloud account, which these wont be because they are brand new, its not going to come back on you.

Theyre worth like 2 grand, just drive a city over and sell em on craigslist cheap


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Anonymous #1

Re: Wireless carrier accidentally shipped several iPhones S Plus's to me - sellable? [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #22494305 - 11/08/15 05:21 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah I've come to terms with the fact I either need to send them back, or sell them for cash cheap so there is less questions asked, I live in a major metro area. Still debating, didn't get a lot of attention on CL ag their near retail price so was thinking $500 each and see who shows me cash first.

Thanks for the constrictive input!


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Anonymous #2

Re: Wireless carrier accidentally shipped several iPhones S Plus's to me - sellable? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22497818 - 11/08/15 08:23 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

also, the 6, 6 plus, 6 plus S, and 6s are 4 different phones. are you sure theyre the 6+S?


Edited by Anonymous (11/08/15 09:35 PM)


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Anonymous #1

Re: Wireless carrier accidentally shipped several iPhones S Plus's to me - sellable? [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #22500021 - 11/09/15 11:34 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Yes, 6S Plus 128GB model, so the most expensive phones possible to fall in my lap.


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Anonymous #14

Re: Wireless carrier accidentally shipped several iPhones S Plus's to me - sellable? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22507713 - 11/11/15 12:44 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

drop them both on CL for 1k each, someone probably tried to purchase them and steal them when they arrived using some old information about you they had. Just get a friend to do the meet and greet and it can't come back to you, sit on the cash for a while and use it for bills or anything else you can pay off with cash.

If you go dropping them for $500 each people might think its a bit fishy.


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