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Bigbadwooof
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Re: So stoked, finally got the spores to start my 1st grow! [Re: Machiavelliavore]
#22493153 - 11/07/15 09:33 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Congratulations! 
May your jars fruit well, buddy!
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Re: So stoked, finally got the spores to start my 1st grow! [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#22493229 - 11/07/15 09:52 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Machiavelliavore said: People PC coir to cook it, which supposedly breaks it down making the nutrients more accessible.
The only issue with buckettek is that it doesn't work well for smaller quantites due to inferior heat retention. When I do a pan, I just hack say 160g off the brick with a claw hammer, hydrate with 1qt boiling water in a microwave safe 2 qt container, let it sit for about 30 minutes with the lid on, then put it in the microwave for another 10 minutes.
Main point again being to cook it. Otherwise using untreated coir would be fine. Hypothetically the spore load on the coir is being reduced if there was any to start with, and there don't seem to be any beneficial bacteria to preserve by doing real pasteurization.
Boiling water hydrates it quite a bit better than cold water as well.
I think i'm going to give grains a try and just do a few small baking pans, it seems just as doable as PF tek, especially with the wealth of info and people willing to help on here. Thanks for the help Mach
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Bigbadwooof said: Congratulations! 
May your jars fruit well, buddy! 
Thanks man i hope so too! Never tripped off my own before and i'm sure it'll be an awesome experience. From spore to stomach is pretty cool
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Re: So stoked, finally got the spores to start my 1st grow! [Re: MysticMoteToter]
#22493277 - 11/07/15 10:03 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yup, it's really not a big deal.
Rice a great grain actually, very clean, and it preps super fast. Can take as little as like 30-40 minutes from the bag to jars ready to PC. But you need to watch it quite carefully. Dump it in like 3-4x the volume of dry rice in boiling water and let it sit. For small pots leave the lid on. Check the hydration at 10 minutes, then at 15, and again at 20. You want it to slice with your thumb nail and not have a dry looking white core but also not be burst. It kinda looks clear all the way through. The line between full hydration and bursting is very narrow with rice. Some burst grains are no biggie, especially if you don't overload the jar.
With some rice, a second return to boiling after a couple hours of soaking may be required. Seems to vary a lot with brand and the heat retention characteristics of the quantity and pot you use. But yeah, piss EZ prep once you know how the quantities and materials you're working with behave. Not too expensive at 66c a pound either.
Strain it for about 10 minutes then spread it out in a pan or tote and let the boiling water evaporate off the grains. For the most part I use violet's rice prep as a starting point, but some rice explodes super easily. Not likely with the quantity you're doing though, a second boil is more likely what will be required.
Anyway, to summarize, rice takes less time but needs more attention.
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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister. I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave. I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent. Triggered yet? Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."
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MysticMoteToter



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Re: So stoked, finally got the spores to start my 1st grow! [Re: Machiavelliavore]
#22500332 - 11/09/15 12:45 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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So i was looking into monotubs and decided i think i'm going to give a few a try. The only questions is how much lighting will i need per tub? I went out and picked up a few 66qt sterlites, some eco earth coir, and some gypsum. All i need to get now is quart jars for my grain jars and some grains, i was thinking WBS or Popcorn but when i was out at my local hardware/gardening store in the section where there was gypsum they sold rye berries and other whole grains/oats cheap as hell. I think i'm going to go back later and try Rye instead of WBS or Popcorn. Anyways i'm getting off on a tangent here haha, my main question is how much lighting will 2-3 66qt monotubs need in a closet? Im assuming the single 32 watt 6500k CFL ill be using for my cakes won't be enough for 2-3 tubs? Would 1 6500k cfl shop light (or ideally just a couple 6500k cfl bulbs) be enough to light the tubs or do the mushrooms need more to develop and pin properly in a mono? Thanks everyone for the help and information, and i hope you have a great day! 
Edit: nvm i figured out the lighting question haha just took a bit more searching of recent posts, sorry guys
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Bigbadwooof
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Re: So stoked, finally got the spores to start my 1st grow! [Re: MysticMoteToter]
#22500411 - 11/09/15 01:05 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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MysticMoteToter said: So i was looking into monotubs and decided i think i'm going to give a few a try. The only questions is how much lighting will i need per tub? I went out and picked up a few 66qt sterlites, some eco earth coir, and some gypsum. All i need to get now is quart jars for my grain jars and some grains, i was thinking WBS or Popcorn but when i was out at my local hardware/gardening store in the section where there was gypsum they sold rye berries and other whole grains/oats cheap as hell. I think i'm going to go back later and try Rye instead of WBS or Popcorn. Anyways i'm getting off on a tangent here haha, my main question is how much lighting will 2-3 66qt monotubs need in a closet? Im assuming the single 32 watt 6500k CFL ill be using for my cakes won't be enough for 2-3 tubs? Would 1 6500k cfl shop light (or ideally just a couple 6500k cfl bulbs) be enough to light the tubs or do the mushrooms need more to develop and pin properly in a mono? Thanks everyone for the help and information, and i hope you have a great day! 
If you're going to stack them you can buy a cheap shop light and one tube. Put it up and down next to the tubs and liht them all. Otherwise you can buy cheap clamp lights and low wattage bulbs. They don't photosynthesize. You don't need super bright lights.
I would suggest you go with oats. I really like them. WBS colonizes slower, but it will give more inoculation points in your bulk sub for quick colonization. Doesn't make a huge difference imo... oats are easy to shake and break up. They're quite forgiving during grain prep also.
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Edited by Bigbadwooof (11/09/15 01:06 PM)
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Re: So stoked, finally got the spores to start my 1st grow! [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#22502562 - 11/09/15 08:42 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hell yeah man i'm going to stack them and just use a shop light vertically. I definitely think ill do oats they had 40lb bags very cheap at 10$ a bag. Sorry guys but i also have another question..I was doing some reading and some people were saying bucket tek isn't a good method, i.e. contams are common before 1st flush. but Mudas bucket tek ( http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19907089 ) is what i was planning on doing. Anyone stand by Bucket tek? Or is just cooking/heating the CVG like Spitballs CVG ( http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20469910 ) a better idea? I could PC it too b ut it seems the general consensus on coir is it's hard to contam if you use the right coir (brand/not infected with trich) Thanks again everyone
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Machiavelliavore
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Re: So stoked, finally got the spores to start my 1st grow! [Re: MysticMoteToter]
#22502580 - 11/09/15 08:47 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Bucket tek is totally fine. I've read a lot about this issue.
The point of heat treating coir is not to kill mold spores or preserve helpful bacteria. There are people who have grown with cold hydrated coir. The point is to cook it so the nutritional capacity is more available, because coir is space spaghetti farmed on mars, imported by Donald Rumsfeld and the lizard people. There are some people who hydrate it and freeze it with the idea that bursting cell walls will help make it more available.
When I look at the end of a coir grow, I see a bunch of coir that looks almost the same as what I started with surrounded by a bunch of dying mycellium.
So yeah, the longer you keep it hotter the better. PC'ing is the most hard core treatment, but buckettek works very well. If you want to do small quantities, microwaving works well.
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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister. I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave. I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent. Triggered yet? Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."
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Re: So stoked, finally got the spores to start my 1st grow! [Re: Machiavelliavore]
#22502678 - 11/09/15 09:12 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks Mach, i think im going to give bucket tek a go especially since i'm just using coir, verm and gypsum without adding anything. and I was thinking about not wanting to do a bigger grow but decided i'm just being paranoid. I've been sketched my ISP has been monitoring me visiting this site, etc and have just been somewhat paranoid (unnecessarily i think). i have friends and family that i know wouldn't pass up a free oz or 2. It'd be nice to have enough to give away. I just definitely need to do a little more reading but so far i'm thinking LI again to Oats w/ SHIPs and a filter disk, and spawning that to CVG Bucket tek in a few 66qts. It seemed 1 brick of coir was perfect for 66qt and it seemed to easy to make substrate with bucket tek i'm just hoping all will go to plan. Regardless haha this stuff is addicting as hell, i'm seeing the first small signs of growth in 8/10 of my PF jars, ill post pics in a few days to update.
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Machiavelliavore
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Re: So stoked, finally got the spores to start my 1st grow! [Re: MysticMoteToter]
#22502695 - 11/09/15 09:17 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I find dropping wedges to be a cleaner and easier process than making LI. You just can't inoculate as much with a single plate. My LI has always taken like 4-8 days to get rolling, I don't know why. Maybe cause my agar plates are thinner.
Can always use that japanese proxy thing to access this site.
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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister. I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave. I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent. Triggered yet? Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."
No, this does not look right...
Edited by Machiavelliavore (11/09/15 09:20 PM)
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Re: So stoked, finally got the spores to start my 1st grow! [Re: Machiavelliavore]
#22502727 - 11/09/15 09:29 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've thought about using a proxy and tried a few but most were cumbersome af. It just sucks b/c i know they (My ISP, Suddenlink) have the ability to know what i do/look at because if you torrent/seed torrents they will write you a warning but pretty sure i'm just being overly paranoid. I'm sure i'm not the only one on here with suddenlink. Anyways guys, i'll keep ya posted on the progress. Thanks again for all the help. seriously thanks for taking time out of your day to clear up questions and help me get into this. Ill keep you guys posted
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Machiavelliavore
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Re: So stoked, finally got the spores to start my 1st grow! [Re: MysticMoteToter]
#22502838 - 11/09/15 09:58 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm pretty sure any ISP can do that. They process all your data. Shroomery isn't illegal, and they aren't in the business of fucking over their customers, with the possible exception of homeland security and cporn. They have no liability for anything posted on shroomery, nor does any liability exist for posting photos, information, and questions for an adult, so I doubt it concerns them.
They would probably comply with a subpoena if they received one, which would probably only contain the data that you connected to the shroomery IP, which is pretty much worthless. If you get fucked, it'll be them showing up at your door with a warrant and taking your shit and your comp. Kinda talking out of my ass, but I'm pretty sure that's right.
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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister. I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave. I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent. Triggered yet? Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."
No, this does not look right...
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Re: So stoked, finally got the spores to start my 1st grow! [Re: Machiavelliavore]
#22503015 - 11/09/15 11:05 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Machiavelliavore said: Bucket tek is totally fine. I've read a lot about this issue.
The point of heat treating coir is not to kill mold spores or preserve helpful bacteria. There are people who have grown with cold hydrated coir. The point is to cook it so the nutritional capacity is more available, because coir is space spaghetti farmed on mars, imported by Donald Rumsfeld and the lizard people. There are some people who hydrate it and freeze it with the idea that bursting cell walls will help make it more available.
When I look at the end of a coir grow, I see a bunch of coir that looks almost the same as what I started with surrounded by a bunch of dying mycellium.
So yeah, the longer you keep it hotter the better. PC'ing is the most hard core treatment, but buckettek works very well. If you want to do small quantities, microwaving works well.
I really must argue against this. I do agree with you about the bucket tek. I make a lot of fuckin tubs, and it's a lot more trouble doing it without the bucket tek.
However, I used to hydrate it, throw it all in a bag and PC it for 3 hours at a time. I've had good results probably 50% of the time doing it this way. Honestly, it's probably the coir I use (Beats Peat). It's the cheapest stuff I can buy in bulk on amazon that isn't so rock hard I can't break it up.
Nowadays I do the standard damion5050 bucket tek, but I wrap the buckets w/ a thick blanket, or two pillows or something, and tie them to the bucket for insulation. It keeps the heat quite high for several hours, and my contam rate is back down.
Just thought I'd throw that out there.
Also, if you are having trouble or have more questions feel free to PM me, and I'll see if I can point you in the right direction
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Edited by Bigbadwooof (11/09/15 11:08 PM)
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Machiavelliavore
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Re: So stoked, finally got the spores to start my 1st grow! [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#22503090 - 11/09/15 11:32 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Pretty sure pasty advocates pressure sterilizing.
Coir can certainly take a long time to show dirty spawn. I use big hydrobricks of Earth Juice Procoir from Ace. I think the texture is actually better than the exotera plantation soil from the pet shop. I whack it with a claw hammer, but it's pretty hard. It's conceivable that the cooking makes it more nutritionally available to some mold spores in your house or something.
I wrap a 30qt tote in foil then put towels on it to make a ghetto thermos for like, 650-1300g range. For more, I throw it in a 56qt and figure the sheer amount of heat will keep it warm plenty long. Even a little 4qt bowl will stay above 180 for like, 45 mins at least.
I use coir in my casing and have had that sitting ontop of my fridge for a month, then cased with it without issue.
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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister. I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave. I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent. Triggered yet? Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."
No, this does not look right...
Edited by Machiavelliavore (11/09/15 11:34 PM)
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Re: So stoked, finally got the spores to start my 1st grow! [Re: Machiavelliavore]
#22503246 - 11/10/15 12:52 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Machiavelliavore said: Pretty sure pasty advocates pressure sterilizing.
Coir can certainly take a long time to show dirty spawn. I use big hydrobricks of Earth Juice Procoir from Ace. I think the texture is actually better than the exotera plantation soil from the pet shop. I whack it with a claw hammer, but it's pretty hard. It's conceivable that the cooking makes it more nutritionally available to some mold spores in your house or something.
I wrap a 30qt tote in foil then put towels on it to make a ghetto thermos for like, 650-1300g range. For more, I throw it in a 56qt and figure the sheer amount of heat will keep it warm plenty long. Even a little 4qt bowl will stay above 180 for like, 45 mins at least.
I use coir in my casing and have had that sitting ontop of my fridge for a month, then cased with it without issue.
I started PCing coir when I read that Cronicr suggested doing so. However, when I started running into trouble, I PMed him about it, and he told me some coir sources aren't pure coir or are at least prone to contams after sterilization.
I'm not saying it won't work, but I don't think it's necessary, and you could potentially run into trouble. Maybe I will see if my ACE hardware has your coir. Does it come in big 11 lb bricks?
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Machiavelliavore
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Re: So stoked, finally got the spores to start my 1st grow! [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#22503355 - 11/10/15 02:09 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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This stuff comes in 5 ki bricks, the brand is ProCoir "Earth Juice" and it costs 12$+tax a brick. They have it above the soil stuff such as small bags of verm, perlite, and potting soil at one near me, though not every ace has it. Good texture for spawning to straight coir IMO.
Occassional rocks and unshredded pieces of coconut husk. That's interesting that sterilizing would cause a problem that buckettek wouldn't. I do remember pasty said he didn't like "ecoearth." I think he said sprouts liked to grow from it
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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister. I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave. I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent. Triggered yet? Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."
No, this does not look right...
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Re: So stoked, finally got the spores to start my 1st grow! [Re: Machiavelliavore]
#22503416 - 11/10/15 02:55 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think that if you minimise drawing attention to yourself you shouldnt have any problems with the police. As Machiavelliavore said the ISP can't benefit from ratting you out and I imagine they wouldn't just spy on their customers at random to see who grows this or that. Just imagine how much people are using the internet on any given day. Even if they were looking for illegal activity you have to be pretty fucking unlucky to be chosen for an "inspection".
IMO if you keep growing to yourself and don't sell the shit you'll be all right. I don't even tell my friends I grow. If I wanna trip with them I just tell them that a friend gave them to me for making him a favour or to test them for him. You would be wise to do the same you never know what will happen with your friends as time goes by. Im sure most people wouldn't rat out even their worst enemy. But why take the chance?
Used to hang out with a group of people some years ago and 3 of them decided to grow weed outside. The girlfriend of a guy in that group ( he wasn't even the one of the 3 growing it) broke up with him. Long story short in the end they kept arguing bout some shit they had at each others house and she sent the police to where the plant was. After finding it they staked it out and caught 1 of the guys which in turn ratted the others out (one of which was his own brother) because he got scared shitless. Funny thing is the girlfriend who ratted them out in the first place should not have known about the plant. She never really saw it either according to the EX. Learned my lesson pretty fucking quick after this. The guys in question are still fighting it out in court. I think it has been 5-6 years already. Probably gonna have some jailtime because here cultivation of weed is automatically an intent to distribute case.
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Re: So stoked, finally got the spores to start my 1st grow! [Re: Machiavelliavore]
#22504332 - 11/10/15 10:04 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Machiavelliavore said: This stuff comes in 5 ki bricks, the brand is ProCoir "Earth Juice" and it costs 12$+tax a brick. They have it above the soil stuff such as small bags of verm, perlite, and potting soil at one near me, though not every ace has it. Good texture for spawning to straight coir IMO.
Occassional rocks and unshredded pieces of coconut husk. That's interesting that sterilizing would cause a problem that buckettek wouldn't. I do remember pasty said he didn't like "ecoearth." I think he said sprouts liked to grow from it 
I'll check it out. 'Beats Peat' has a very nice texture also. I really like it. It crumbles fairly easily in your hands. I have to order it from Amazon though >.<
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Re: So stoked, finally got the spores to start my 1st grow! [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#22504402 - 11/10/15 10:21 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Machiavelliavore said: I'm pretty sure any ISP can do that. They process all your data. Shroomery isn't illegal, and they aren't in the business of fucking over their customers, with the possible exception of homeland security and cporn. They have no liability for anything posted on shroomery, nor does any liability exist for posting photos, information, and questions for an adult, so I doubt it concerns them.
They would probably comply with a subpoena if they received one, which would probably only contain the data that you connected to the shroomery IP, which is pretty much worthless. If you get fucked, it'll be them showing up at your door with a warrant and taking your shit and your comp. Kinda talking out of my ass, but I'm pretty sure that's right.
I'm pretty sure you're right. I think i'm just being a bit paranoid haha. Smoking too much reefer.
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Machiavelliavore said: Bucket tek is totally fine. I've read a lot about this issue.
The point of heat treating coir is not to kill mold spores or preserve helpful bacteria. There are people who have grown with cold hydrated coir. The point is to cook it so the nutritional capacity is more available, because coir is space spaghetti farmed on mars, imported by Donald Rumsfeld and the lizard people. There are some people who hydrate it and freeze it with the idea that bursting cell walls will help make it more available.
When I look at the end of a coir grow, I see a bunch of coir that looks almost the same as what I started with surrounded by a bunch of dying mycellium.
So yeah, the longer you keep it hotter the better. PC'ing is the most hard core treatment, but buckettek works very well. If you want to do small quantities, microwaving works well.
I really must argue against this. I do agree with you about the bucket tek. I make a lot of fuckin tubs, and it's a lot more trouble doing it without the bucket tek.
However, I used to hydrate it, throw it all in a bag and PC it for 3 hours at a time. I've had good results probably 50% of the time doing it this way. Honestly, it's probably the coir I use (Beats Peat). It's the cheapest stuff I can buy in bulk on amazon that isn't so rock hard I can't break it up.
Nowadays I do the standard damion5050 bucket tek, but I wrap the buckets w/ a thick blanket, or two pillows or something, and tie them to the bucket for insulation. It keeps the heat quite high for several hours, and my contam rate is back down.
Just thought I'd throw that out there.
Also, if you are having trouble or have more questions feel free to PM me, and I'll see if I can point you in the right direction 
Hell yeah man thank you, i think i'm going to give the bucket a try, i'd rather not have to PC or pasteurize it on the stove, etc. I'll definitely shoot you a PM if i have some questions man. Thanks Wooof i appreciate it! Btw your sig makes me cream every time i see it hahahaha 
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IMO if you keep growing to yourself and don't sell the shit you'll be all right. I don't even tell my friends I grow. If I wanna trip with them I just tell them that a friend gave them to me for making him a favour or to test them for him. You would be wise to do the same you never know what will happen with your friends as time goes by. Im sure most people wouldn't rat out even their worst enemy. But why take the chance?
Used to hang out with a group of people some years ago and 3 of them decided to grow weed outside. The girlfriend of a guy in that group ( he wasn't even the one of the 3 growing it) broke up with him. Long story short in the end they kept arguing bout some shit they had at each others house and she sent the police to where the plant was. After finding it they staked it out and caught 1 of the guys which in turn ratted the others out (one of which was his own brother) because he got scared shitless. Funny thing is the girlfriend who ratted them out in the first place should not have known about the plant. She never really saw it either according to the EX. Learned my lesson pretty fucking quick after this. The guys in question are still fighting it out in court. I think it has been 5-6 years already. Probably gonna have some jailtime because here cultivation of weed is automatically an intent to distribute case.
I think i'm just being a little overly paranoid for the 1st grow, as long as i continue to keep it a secret and keep low profile ill be okay haha. but sometimes a little paranoia is healthy. And that's so fucked man, in California if you get a 215 card you can grow up to 6 mature plants at a time as a patient, i really hope we end up changing the drug policy in the U.S. over the next decade or so. Its ridiculous that in the 21st century people are getting jailed for this stuff when we can drink and smoke cigs till our death. The war on drugs is a ridiculous joke.
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Supalemonhaze
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Re: So stoked, finally got the spores to start my 1st grow! [Re: MysticMoteToter]
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No shit.
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Bigbadwooof
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Re: So stoked, finally got the spores to start my 1st grow! [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#22504968 - 11/10/15 12:57 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Supalemonhaze's sig makes me cream my panties... I love that picture!
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