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Chocolate and OJ Revisited
    #22419058 - 10/22/15 04:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Hey everyone,

Been doing a lot of experimentation with enhancing the effects of my shrooms since my grows are kind of intermittent. A common topic in previous threads is why things like chocolate and orange juice seem to potentiate psychadelic experiences even though they have been shown to have no MAOI activity. It is commonly agreed that these both make psychadelic experiences stronger, but why?

After doing a little research and further experimentation, I think I may have stumbled across the answer. Psilocin and other Psychadelics bind to serotonin (5HT or 5 Hydroxy-tryptamine) within the brain, preventing the brain from reuptake of serotonin. In essence, you trip balls because of elevated levels of serotonin in your brain synapses.

Chocolate, among other foods, contains high levels of l-tryptophan, which is the chemical precursor, or raw ingredient needed to make serotonin. That is why eating a lot of chocolate or cacao can make you feel kind of giddy. However, the body requires vitamin C as an enzyme in order to turn this l-tryptophan to serotonin. That's where the OJ comes in. By intaking high levels of tryptophan and vitamin C before taking Psychadelics, you insure the body had ample levels of serotonin during your trip,  without affecting the psilocin in any way at all.

This was very evident to me during several trips lately, including a wonderful shroom trip at home where I would eat a little chocolate every 30 minutes with a little OJ, and an acid trip in the woods, where I ate pumpkin seeds in trail mix (also very high in tryptophan) and drank a very hoppy IPA (hops are high in vitamin C) When things got a little dull, I'd take another bite/drink and would feel a definite upswing in effects within 30 minutes.

I'd love y'all to try this out and report what you think. You can find other sources of tryptophan in foods online. Your trip is a living thing, feed it well and it'll grow into something great


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Re: Chocolate and OJ Revisited [Re: MycoMountainMan]
    #22419646 - 10/22/15 06:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I don't know about chocolate and OJ in the context of increased effects. I tend to put my money on the cleanest extraction possible. By clean I mean this: absolutely no mushroom  tissue, no matter how fine the particles. I want a clear--which does not mean colorless--extraction. The color should be a kind of golden brown. The idea is not so much more potency as less of the element that dampens or twists whatever potency already there (usually plenty) into something nasty, sickening, crazy-making.

Anyway, I applaud your experimental attitude. Keep trying different things until you find something that allows you to use these substances without the heavy physical side effects that result, in my opinion,inevitably in bad trips.


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Edited by champinhom (10/22/15 06:52 PM)


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