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Falling moral standards in our contemporary culture.
    #22418924 - 10/22/15 03:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

When you look at the older generations they married younger, they (especially women) didn't have premarital sex, they didn't have abortion. No one even thought of gay people or transgender benders really even existing at all. But when you look at the kids that are now getting married today, they're getting married older if at all, they had a tremendous amount of sex and abortions and STDs including AIDS. Previous generations in high school the biggest problems were gum chewing, and smoking, cutting in line. Fast forward to today and its drugs, sex, money, violence even including murder in the classroom. Respect for parents no longer seems to exist. Respect for the self no longer even seems to exist. The only thing most people seem to respect is money. Thoughts?


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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Ellis Dee] * 3
    #22418937 - 10/22/15 04:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

People can't think for themselves. It doesn't help when the mass media of today exploits everything from spree killers to over-the-top celebrities. So many famous icons influencing the younger generation. "Lil Wayne gets tattoos on his face and I love Weezy so I'm going to do the same thing to my face!". So many different factors causing moral standards to plummet and technology is one of the main factors. We've advanced so much in such a short period of time. Just some of my thoughts.


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Re: Falling moral standards in our contemporary culture. [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #22418940 - 10/22/15 04:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

What do you mean "especially women", bro?


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Re: Falling moral standards in our contemporary culture. [Re: wu wei]
    #22418948 - 10/22/15 04:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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What do you mean "especially women", bro?



Women's virginity was highly prized in particular.


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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Bigfeely123] * 7
    #22418957 - 10/22/15 04:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Not everyone married young or at all. They did have premarital sex. They did have abortions, they just used different methods like coat hangers. There were gay people, they would get beat up if they told everyone so they kept it hidden. This stuff might be happening more now, or it could be that people are more comfortable talking openly about this kind of stuff. It used to be very taboo to bring this stuff up, especially on TV I find it hard to believe that people changed that much over 50 or 100 years.


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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Lophosaurus]
    #22418965 - 10/22/15 04:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Not everyone married young or at all. They did have premarital sex. They did have abortions, they just used different methods like coat hangers. There were gay people, they would get beat up if they told everyone so they kept it hidden. This stuff might be happening more now, or it could be that people are more comfortable talking openly about this kind of stuff. It used to be very taboo to bring this stuff up, especially on TV I find it hard to believe that people changed that much over 50 or 100 years.




True.


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Re: Falling moral standards in our contemporary culture. [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #22418970 - 10/22/15 04:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I agree. However the old days are never coming back. The millennials are fucked and the majority of them know this. But beyond family look at the laws and the world leaders. What kind of example do they present? Fuck them, the dinosaurs are going to die out.


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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Bigfeely123] * 5
    #22418971 - 10/22/15 04:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

What generation are you guys talking about?  Because it sure as shit wasn't mine.


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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: zappaisgod] * 4
    #22419042 - 10/22/15 04:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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What generation are you guys talking about?  Because it sure as shit wasn't mine.




hahaha yeah a lot of people don't realize that past generations weren't as good and innocent as people make them out to be...


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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Boomer The Great]
    #22419079 - 10/22/15 04:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I hold the book of eternal knowledge, I am the almighty saint, and I am the creator of everything. I KNOW ALL... I am... MANBEARPIG

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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: zappaisgod] * 4
    #22419120 - 10/22/15 04:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

i think it may be the case that we are just experiencing moral progress, and that can take the form of challenging the old standards in various ways, including violence and immorality. i don't mean that people are even conscious of what they're doing; it's just the flow of our culture.

the world of our parents was very different than the world now. back then, the status quo was absolute trust and submission to public institutions, conformity, and being devoutly religious. our parents, or at least many of our parents, were there when the tide started to turn the status quo towards mistrust in public institutions, fierce individuality and the rejection of traditional religious values. neoliberalist ideology and the hyper religiosity (e.g. the "moral majority" of the 80's) are great examples of how this turn in the 60's and 70's set the new status quo, even though they do seem to indicate a transfer of trust in government to private institutions and new forms of religion, respectively. 

but when people like me became teens in the early 90's, we seemed to mostly maintain the status quo, probably because there wasn't any sort of huge event that caused us to redefine it. but millennials grew up in a post 9/11 world. and now so much has changed in so many different ways and we have a new generation of kids who are so removed from our status quo that it's a tipping point. but i don't think a worse world is what will ultimately follow, but rather moral progress. look at how we've come to accept gays and transgendered people almost overnight. that's no small step. i think this is why we are seeing so much anger in conservative circles. they know they're time is up. but so is everyone else's. it's just not our world in the way it used to be. people like me will continue to live lives in the same way our parents did, and many of us will find refuge in rampant consumerism, neoliberalism and new permutations of the religion of the 80's.

but these new kids? they're on a whole different wavelength, and nobody gets them. it'll be interesting to see how it turns out.


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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Ellis Dee] * 3
    #22419144 - 10/22/15 05:00 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I honestly think we are going to destroy ourselves. :sad:


But i still try to live a good life and promote peace, compassion, even if it fails.


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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: millzy] * 1
    #22419153 - 10/22/15 05:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

People are living longer and marrying older. Plus the cost of living is higher so many are working longer to be able to afford having kids. Most of the stuff you see now with gay and transgender people has been happening for a long long time. It's just now people are more vocal and their are more outlets such as the media, Internet, etc. women were also treated like property or second class citizens in many cultures. We are ,ore connected than ever before yet we are more disconnected from one another than ever before. We have all of the available information in the world at the tips of our fingers yet many squander it and instead are becoming more ignorant and ridiculous every day.

It's weird we have progressed in many ways but regressed in many as well.


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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Anahata]
    #22419160 - 10/22/15 05:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

religious control and devoutness has decreased. people have to think about moral decisions more now. baby steps.


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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Ellis Dee] * 5
    #22419313 - 10/22/15 05:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Whoa now, I think you're forgetting about all the terrible shit that used to go on back then. Think back to New York before they started cracking down on crime. Now that place was a shit hole of lurid depravity. Not to mention everyone was riff with bigotry across the board. Why do you think nobody heard of Trans or gay people back then? Because those were the ones everyone beat the shit out of constantly, and don't even get me started on how outright racist everyone was. Fuck outta here with this "things used to be so much better" garbage.


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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Lophosaurus] * 1
    #22419317 - 10/22/15 05:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Not everyone married young or at all. They did have premarital sex. They did have abortions, they just used different methods like coat hangers. There were gay people, they would get beat up if they told everyone so they kept it hidden. This stuff might be happening more now, or it could be that people are more comfortable talking openly about this kind of stuff. It used to be very taboo to bring this stuff up, especially on TV I find it hard to believe that people changed that much over 50 or 100 years.





Right on brother.

OP, you should read about ancient Rome, they were as secular as they come.  There really is nothing new under the sun.


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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #22419324 - 10/22/15 05:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Whoa now, I think you're forgetting about all the terrible shit that used to go on back then. Think back to New York before they started cracking down on crime. Now that place was a shit hole of lurid depravity. Not to mention everyone was riff with bigotry across the board. Why do you think nobody heard of Trans or gay people back then? Because those were the ones everyone beat the shit out of constantly, and don't even get me started on how outright racist everyone was. Fuck outta here with this "things used to be so much better" garbage.



I get it. Piss on the good old days. :piss:


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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #22419334 - 10/22/15 05:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

people are more unsure of themselves then ever before. side effect of technology.

and because of that, people are paradoxically acting more sure of themselves then ever before.

confusion...run.


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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Ellis Dee] * 2
    #22419638 - 10/22/15 06:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Whoa now, I think you're forgetting about all the terrible shit that used to go on back then. Think back to New York before they started cracking down on crime. Now that place was a shit hole of lurid depravity. Not to mention everyone was riff with bigotry across the board. Why do you think nobody heard of Trans or gay people back then? Because those were the ones everyone beat the shit out of constantly, and don't even get me started on how outright racist everyone was. Fuck outta here with this "things used to be so much better" garbage.



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Lophosaurus said:
Not everyone married young or at all. They did have premarital sex. They did have abortions, they just used different methods like coat hangers. There were gay people, they would get beat up if they told everyone so they kept it hidden. This stuff might be happening more now, or it could be that people are more comfortable talking openly about this kind of stuff. It used to be very taboo to bring this stuff up, especially on TV I find it hard to believe that people changed that much over 50 or 100 years.




QFT. I don't agree with you at all, OP. :nonono:


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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Hellogoodbyedeath] * 2
    #22420505 - 10/22/15 09:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

My parents generation (1950's-60's) all got married with the bride pregnant at the alter at a young age (19-23 years old). One thing I will say, a very large percentage of them stayed married and didn't get divorced.

It was definitely a more innocent time period, it was also a more homogeneous culture which resulted in less social tensions like we have today.

Today we have things like "cultural diversity" forced down our throats on a daily basis and it has really been nothing but a major failure. So yes, our culture has turned into one big shit fest in many different ways.


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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: qman]
    #22420544 - 10/22/15 09:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

yeah, your parents weren't ever forced fed culture. they all stayed together...what an idyllic world. if only you could accomplish that but you can't...cause FEMINISTS!


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Re: Falling moral standards in our contemporary culture. [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #22420562 - 10/22/15 09:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Thoughts?




Why do I have to be moral and more particular, why do I have uphold YOUR morals?


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Re: Falling moral standards in our contemporary culture. [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #22420599 - 10/22/15 10:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I disagree, at least where I live this doesn't seem to be the case


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Re: Falling moral standards in our contemporary culture. [Re: Ezuma]
    #22420631 - 10/22/15 10:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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yeah, your parents weren't ever forced fed culture. they all stayed together...what an idyllic world. if only you could accomplish that but you can't...cause FEMINISTS!




No one is blaming feminists, but since women have entered the workforce the traditional family unit has taken a hit, that fact has serious ramifications for everyone.

Again, mixing so many different cultures like we do today also brings so many difficult challenges that we didn't have in the past.


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Re: Falling moral standards in our contemporary culture. [Re: qman]
    #22420640 - 10/22/15 10:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

we choose to go to the moon. :shrug:


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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: qman]
    #22420697 - 10/22/15 10:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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My parents generation (1950's-60's) all got married with the bride pregnant at the alter at a young age (19-23 years old). One thing I will say, a very large percentage of them stayed married and didn't get divorced.

It was definitely a more innocent time period, it was also a more homogeneous culture which resulted in less social tensions like we have today.

Today we have things like "cultural diversity" forced down our throats on a daily basis and it has really been nothing but a major failure. So yes, our culture has turned into one big shit fest in many different ways.



Thats the way it should be. And I'll bet they had a 50 year marriage and loved each other through thick and thin the whole time. Those are good people.


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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Ellis Dee] * 4
    #22420717 - 10/22/15 10:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

i bet they resented eachother and wish'd they could boff someone else every other day.


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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Ellis Dee] * 5
    #22420808 - 10/22/15 10:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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My parents generation (1950's-60's) all got married with the bride pregnant at the alter at a young age (19-23 years old). One thing I will say, a very large percentage of them stayed married and didn't get divorced.

It was definitely a more innocent time period, it was also a more homogeneous culture which resulted in less social tensions like we have today.

Today we have things like "cultural diversity" forced down our throats on a daily basis and it has really been nothing but a major failure. So yes, our culture has turned into one big shit fest in many different ways.



Thats the way it should be. And I'll bet they had a 50 year marriage and loved each other through thick and thin the whole time. Those are good people.




Why do you think this is the best way anyone could live? Did you go through a messy divorce as a child?


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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Bodhi of Ankou] * 1
    #22420881 - 10/22/15 11:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

OP, I bet the people you look down on like this have a stronger moral compass than any of those fuckers upholding the status quo.
Your morals are not absolute, you know?


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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Turtletotem]
    #22420940 - 10/22/15 11:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

it's funny when we have a moral "standard"...it's like oil, we don't want too little, we can't take too much, we just need to meet the mark juuuust right.


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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #22420948 - 10/22/15 11:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Why do you think this is the best way anyone could live? Did you go through a messy divorce as a child?



Yes. You called that exactly right. I also became a father fairly recently, being married and a dad, which has led me to reevaluate things. And the values I want to instill in my own children.


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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #22420961 - 10/22/15 11:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

start a religion.


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    #22420968 - 10/22/15 11:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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OP, I bet the people you look down on like this have a stronger moral compass than any of those fuckers upholding the status quo.
Your morals are not absolute, you know?



A few of my morals are absolute. Do not murder, do not rape, so not bear a false witness, etc. An absolute compass is the only way to determine your direction. If sometimes the needle points north and sometimes west you'll never know where you're going and wander aimlessly. If you have a true north you'll always know which way you're headed.


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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #22420981 - 10/22/15 11:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Whoa now, I think you're forgetting about all the terrible shit that used to go on back then. Think back to New York before they started cracking down on crime. Now that place was a shit hole of lurid depravity. Not to mention everyone was riff with bigotry across the board. Why do you think nobody heard of Trans or gay people back then? Because those were the ones everyone beat the shit out of constantly, and don't even get me started on how outright racist everyone was. Fuck outta here with this "things used to be so much better" garbage.



I get it. Piss on the good old days. :piss:




Probably wasn't the good old days if you had to hide in the closet. I think it's pretty naive to think the whole 20th century wasn't full of sexual depravity. Also crime seems to be dropping across the board, everyone has a cell phone now and everything is on camera. People have been claiming the kids are oversexed since the 50's. They say it about every generation. Pretty sure if you went back a hundred or two hundred years it was the same thing.
My grandfather pretty much fucked his way across north america in the the 1930's I have illegitmate relatives all over the place some with my name some with a different name. Every so often someone on Facebook contacts me and my family tree grows. I guess the only difference is grandpa didn't go bragging he was a baby daddy


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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Ellis Dee] * 1
    #22420986 - 10/22/15 11:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I knew it. I tend to agree, at least when theres kids involved. Society would be much better off if families always stuck together until kids reached full maturity. Sadly its not even something thats really promoted anywhere anymore. Now that most people are smart enough to look past religion, society doesnt really have any sort of familial dialogue. Schools dont say fuck all about it, our holidays are corporate shitshows and things like social media are only making our communities more diffuse as a whole. I totally feel what you're saying.


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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #22421006 - 10/22/15 11:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

to make the family the point of our societal aim's means to regress as a society.

what do you want more, independence, or "proper" psychological conditioning?


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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #22421009 - 10/22/15 11:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Every generation sees the generation that follows it as a depraved, corrupt, morally inferior generation that won't adequately fill its shoes.  It turns out that isn't the case at all historically in this country.


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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: abltsandwich]
    #22421015 - 10/22/15 11:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

historically we all get used to shit.


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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #22421077 - 10/23/15 12:18 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Maybe not the reason for society but it should be one of the central points of it.


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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Bodhi of Ankou] * 1
    #22421150 - 10/23/15 12:45 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

i vouch for the adage "love of one is barbaric" and say that the term 'family' shouldn't be relegated to only immediate siblings and parents...it should be in regards to society.

in my opinion....

afterall...how did anything get this way...Rothchilds for one thing.


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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #22421205 - 10/23/15 01:22 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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OP, I bet the people you look down on like this have a stronger moral compass than any of those fuckers upholding the status quo.
Your morals are not absolute, you know?



A few of my morals are absolute. Do not murder, do not rape, so not bear a false witness, etc. An absolute compass is the only way to determine your direction. If sometimes the needle points north and sometimes west you'll never know where you're going and wander aimlessly. If you have a true north you'll always know which way you're headed.




You moralists are all the same, you preach a few things that are obvious to anyone who is half-decent, and then use that to justify the more questionable, relative stuff.


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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Turtletotem] * 2
    #22421241 - 10/23/15 01:41 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

moralists are all the same. collectivists are all the same.

fuck groups. individuals yo.

fuck the Rothchilds, the "my family is more important than anything in the world!" mentality...fuck everyone who thinks like that.

i mean...in the long run...fuck 'em.


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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #22421250 - 10/23/15 01:53 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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moralists are all the same. collectivists are all the same.

fuck groups. individuals yo.

fuck the Rothchilds, the "my family is more important than anything in the world!" mentality...fuck everyone who thinks like that.

i mean...in the long run...fuck 'em.




Fuck yeah!

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Re: Falling moral standards in our contemporary culture. [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #22421281 - 10/23/15 02:20 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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When you look at the older generations they married younger, they (especially women) didn't have premarital sex, they didn't have abortion. No one even thought of gay people or transgender benders really even existing at all. But when you look at the kids that are now getting married today, they're getting married older if at all, they had a tremendous amount of sex and abortions and STDs including AIDS. Previous generations in high school the biggest problems were gum chewing, and smoking, cutting in line. Fast forward to today and its drugs, sex, money, violence even including murder in the classroom. Respect for parents no longer seems to exist. Respect for the self no longer even seems to exist. The only thing most people seem to respect is money. Thoughts?




Let's see what values older generations had: Beating and lynching black people, treating women like property, bigotry from all angles, xenophobia towards japanese and germans. Gay people existed, but people with slightly more testosterone than you would beat and or kill them so they had to hide. I'll take today over the older generations any day of the week, and the more harmless deviants society accepts, the better.
The past fuckin' sucks. Fuck the past, fuck the days of old, fuck nature, now is the best.


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Re: Falling moral standards in our contemporary culture. [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #22421295 - 10/23/15 02:29 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

and even then it's always being clawed back to the stone-age by invalids.


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Re: Falling moral standards in our contemporary culture. [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #22421353 - 10/23/15 03:32 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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When you look at the older generations they married younger, they (especially women) didn't have premarital sex, they didn't have abortion. No one even thought of gay people or transgender benders really even existing at all. But when you look at the kids that are now getting married today, they're getting married older if at all, they had a tremendous amount of sex and abortions and STDs including AIDS. Previous generations in high school the biggest problems were gum chewing, and smoking, cutting in line. Fast forward to today and its drugs, sex, money, violence even including murder in the classroom. Respect for parents no longer seems to exist. Respect for the self no longer even seems to exist. The only thing most people seem to respect is money. Thoughts?




People got married earlier because the human life span has doubled in the past 150 years. 150 years ago people were festering reservoirs of stds. The impact of STDs on human civilization has never been lower than it is now.

AIDS is nothing compared to what syphilis wrought upon the world.


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