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akira_akuma
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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: qman]
#22420544 - 10/22/15 09:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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yeah, your parents weren't ever forced fed culture. they all stayed together...what an idyllic world. if only you could accomplish that but you can't...cause FEMINISTS!
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Re: Falling moral standards in our contemporary culture. [Re: Ellis Dee]
#22420562 - 10/22/15 09:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ellis Dee said: Thoughts?
Why do I have to be moral and more particular, why do I have uphold YOUR morals?
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Re: Falling moral standards in our contemporary culture. [Re: Ellis Dee]
#22420599 - 10/22/15 10:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I disagree, at least where I live this doesn't seem to be the case
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Re: Falling moral standards in our contemporary culture. [Re: Ezuma]
#22420631 - 10/22/15 10:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: yeah, your parents weren't ever forced fed culture. they all stayed together...what an idyllic world. if only you could accomplish that but you can't...cause FEMINISTS!
No one is blaming feminists, but since women have entered the workforce the traditional family unit has taken a hit, that fact has serious ramifications for everyone.
Again, mixing so many different cultures like we do today also brings so many difficult challenges that we didn't have in the past.
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akira_akuma
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Re: Falling moral standards in our contemporary culture. [Re: qman]
#22420640 - 10/22/15 10:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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we choose to go to the moon.
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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: qman]
#22420697 - 10/22/15 10:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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qman said: My parents generation (1950's-60's) all got married with the bride pregnant at the alter at a young age (19-23 years old). One thing I will say, a very large percentage of them stayed married and didn't get divorced.
It was definitely a more innocent time period, it was also a more homogeneous culture which resulted in less social tensions like we have today.
Today we have things like "cultural diversity" forced down our throats on a daily basis and it has really been nothing but a major failure. So yes, our culture has turned into one big shit fest in many different ways.
Thats the way it should be. And I'll bet they had a 50 year marriage and loved each other through thick and thin the whole time. Those are good people.
-------------------- "If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do."-King Solomon And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Ellis Dee] 4
#22420717 - 10/22/15 10:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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i bet they resented eachother and wish'd they could boff someone else every other day.
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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Ellis Dee] 5
#22420808 - 10/22/15 10:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ellis Dee said:
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qman said: My parents generation (1950's-60's) all got married with the bride pregnant at the alter at a young age (19-23 years old). One thing I will say, a very large percentage of them stayed married and didn't get divorced.
It was definitely a more innocent time period, it was also a more homogeneous culture which resulted in less social tensions like we have today.
Today we have things like "cultural diversity" forced down our throats on a daily basis and it has really been nothing but a major failure. So yes, our culture has turned into one big shit fest in many different ways.
Thats the way it should be. And I'll bet they had a 50 year marriage and loved each other through thick and thin the whole time. Those are good people.
Why do you think this is the best way anyone could live? Did you go through a messy divorce as a child?
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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Bodhi of Ankou] 1
#22420881 - 10/22/15 11:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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OP, I bet the people you look down on like this have a stronger moral compass than any of those fuckers upholding the status quo. Your morals are not absolute, you know?
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akira_akuma
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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Turtletotem]
#22420940 - 10/22/15 11:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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it's funny when we have a moral "standard"...it's like oil, we don't want too little, we can't take too much, we just need to meet the mark juuuust right.
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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#22420948 - 10/22/15 11:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Why do you think this is the best way anyone could live? Did you go through a messy divorce as a child?
Yes. You called that exactly right. I also became a father fairly recently, being married and a dad, which has led me to reevaluate things. And the values I want to instill in my own children.
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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Ellis Dee]
#22420961 - 10/22/15 11:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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start a religion.
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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Turtletotem]
#22420968 - 10/22/15 11:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Turtletotem said: OP, I bet the people you look down on like this have a stronger moral compass than any of those fuckers upholding the status quo. Your morals are not absolute, you know?
A few of my morals are absolute. Do not murder, do not rape, so not bear a false witness, etc. An absolute compass is the only way to determine your direction. If sometimes the needle points north and sometimes west you'll never know where you're going and wander aimlessly. If you have a true north you'll always know which way you're headed.
-------------------- "If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do."-King Solomon And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Ellis Dee]
#22420981 - 10/22/15 11:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ellis Dee said:
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Whoa now, I think you're forgetting about all the terrible shit that used to go on back then. Think back to New York before they started cracking down on crime. Now that place was a shit hole of lurid depravity. Not to mention everyone was riff with bigotry across the board. Why do you think nobody heard of Trans or gay people back then? Because those were the ones everyone beat the shit out of constantly, and don't even get me started on how outright racist everyone was. Fuck outta here with this "things used to be so much better" garbage.
I get it. Piss on the good old days. 
Probably wasn't the good old days if you had to hide in the closet. I think it's pretty naive to think the whole 20th century wasn't full of sexual depravity. Also crime seems to be dropping across the board, everyone has a cell phone now and everything is on camera. People have been claiming the kids are oversexed since the 50's. They say it about every generation. Pretty sure if you went back a hundred or two hundred years it was the same thing. My grandfather pretty much fucked his way across north america in the the 1930's I have illegitmate relatives all over the place some with my name some with a different name. Every so often someone on Facebook contacts me and my family tree grows. I guess the only difference is grandpa didn't go bragging he was a baby daddy
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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Ellis Dee] 1
#22420986 - 10/22/15 11:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I knew it. I tend to agree, at least when theres kids involved. Society would be much better off if families always stuck together until kids reached full maturity. Sadly its not even something thats really promoted anywhere anymore. Now that most people are smart enough to look past religion, society doesnt really have any sort of familial dialogue. Schools dont say fuck all about it, our holidays are corporate shitshows and things like social media are only making our communities more diffuse as a whole. I totally feel what you're saying.
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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#22421006 - 10/22/15 11:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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to make the family the point of our societal aim's means to regress as a society.
what do you want more, independence, or "proper" psychological conditioning?
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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#22421009 - 10/22/15 11:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Every generation sees the generation that follows it as a depraved, corrupt, morally inferior generation that won't adequately fill its shoes. It turns out that isn't the case at all historically in this country.
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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: abltsandwich]
#22421015 - 10/22/15 11:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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historically we all get used to shit.
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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: akira_akuma] 1
#22421077 - 10/23/15 12:18 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Maybe not the reason for society but it should be one of the central points of it.
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akira_akuma
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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Bodhi of Ankou] 1
#22421150 - 10/23/15 12:45 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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i vouch for the adage "love of one is barbaric" and say that the term 'family' shouldn't be relegated to only immediate siblings and parents...it should be in regards to society.
in my opinion....
afterall...how did anything get this way...Rothchilds for one thing.
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