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Falling moral standards in our contemporary culture.
#22418924 - 10/22/15 03:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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When you look at the older generations they married younger, they (especially women) didn't have premarital sex, they didn't have abortion. No one even thought of gay people or transgender benders really even existing at all. But when you look at the kids that are now getting married today, they're getting married older if at all, they had a tremendous amount of sex and abortions and STDs including AIDS. Previous generations in high school the biggest problems were gum chewing, and smoking, cutting in line. Fast forward to today and its drugs, sex, money, violence even including murder in the classroom. Respect for parents no longer seems to exist. Respect for the self no longer even seems to exist. The only thing most people seem to respect is money. Thoughts?
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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Ellis Dee] 3
#22418937 - 10/22/15 04:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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People can't think for themselves. It doesn't help when the mass media of today exploits everything from spree killers to over-the-top celebrities. So many famous icons influencing the younger generation. "Lil Wayne gets tattoos on his face and I love Weezy so I'm going to do the same thing to my face!". So many different factors causing moral standards to plummet and technology is one of the main factors. We've advanced so much in such a short period of time. Just some of my thoughts.
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Re: Falling moral standards in our contemporary culture. [Re: Ellis Dee]
#22418940 - 10/22/15 04:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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What do you mean "especially women", bro?
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Re: Falling moral standards in our contemporary culture. [Re: wu wei]
#22418948 - 10/22/15 04:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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wu wei said: What do you mean "especially women", bro?
Women's virginity was highly prized in particular.
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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Bigfeely123] 7
#22418957 - 10/22/15 04:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Not everyone married young or at all. They did have premarital sex. They did have abortions, they just used different methods like coat hangers. There were gay people, they would get beat up if they told everyone so they kept it hidden. This stuff might be happening more now, or it could be that people are more comfortable talking openly about this kind of stuff. It used to be very taboo to bring this stuff up, especially on TV I find it hard to believe that people changed that much over 50 or 100 years.
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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Lophosaurus]
#22418965 - 10/22/15 04:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lophosaurus said: Not everyone married young or at all. They did have premarital sex. They did have abortions, they just used different methods like coat hangers. There were gay people, they would get beat up if they told everyone so they kept it hidden. This stuff might be happening more now, or it could be that people are more comfortable talking openly about this kind of stuff. It used to be very taboo to bring this stuff up, especially on TV I find it hard to believe that people changed that much over 50 or 100 years.
True.
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Re: Falling moral standards in our contemporary culture. [Re: Ellis Dee]
#22418970 - 10/22/15 04:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I agree. However the old days are never coming back. The millennials are fucked and the majority of them know this. But beyond family look at the laws and the world leaders. What kind of example do they present? Fuck them, the dinosaurs are going to die out.
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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Bigfeely123] 5
#22418971 - 10/22/15 04:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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What generation are you guys talking about? Because it sure as shit wasn't mine.
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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: zappaisgod] 4
#22419042 - 10/22/15 04:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: What generation are you guys talking about? Because it sure as shit wasn't mine.
hahaha yeah a lot of people don't realize that past generations weren't as good and innocent as people make them out to be...
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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Boomer The Great]
#22419079 - 10/22/15 04:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I hold the book of eternal knowledge, I am the almighty saint, and I am the creator of everything. I KNOW ALL... I am... MANBEARPIG

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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: zappaisgod] 4
#22419120 - 10/22/15 04:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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i think it may be the case that we are just experiencing moral progress, and that can take the form of challenging the old standards in various ways, including violence and immorality. i don't mean that people are even conscious of what they're doing; it's just the flow of our culture.
the world of our parents was very different than the world now. back then, the status quo was absolute trust and submission to public institutions, conformity, and being devoutly religious. our parents, or at least many of our parents, were there when the tide started to turn the status quo towards mistrust in public institutions, fierce individuality and the rejection of traditional religious values. neoliberalist ideology and the hyper religiosity (e.g. the "moral majority" of the 80's) are great examples of how this turn in the 60's and 70's set the new status quo, even though they do seem to indicate a transfer of trust in government to private institutions and new forms of religion, respectively.
but when people like me became teens in the early 90's, we seemed to mostly maintain the status quo, probably because there wasn't any sort of huge event that caused us to redefine it. but millennials grew up in a post 9/11 world. and now so much has changed in so many different ways and we have a new generation of kids who are so removed from our status quo that it's a tipping point. but i don't think a worse world is what will ultimately follow, but rather moral progress. look at how we've come to accept gays and transgendered people almost overnight. that's no small step. i think this is why we are seeing so much anger in conservative circles. they know they're time is up. but so is everyone else's. it's just not our world in the way it used to be. people like me will continue to live lives in the same way our parents did, and many of us will find refuge in rampant consumerism, neoliberalism and new permutations of the religion of the 80's.
but these new kids? they're on a whole different wavelength, and nobody gets them. it'll be interesting to see how it turns out.
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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Ellis Dee] 3
#22419144 - 10/22/15 05:00 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I honestly think we are going to destroy ourselves. 
But i still try to live a good life and promote peace, compassion, even if it fails.
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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: millzy] 1
#22419153 - 10/22/15 05:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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People are living longer and marrying older. Plus the cost of living is higher so many are working longer to be able to afford having kids. Most of the stuff you see now with gay and transgender people has been happening for a long long time. It's just now people are more vocal and their are more outlets such as the media, Internet, etc. women were also treated like property or second class citizens in many cultures. We are ,ore connected than ever before yet we are more disconnected from one another than ever before. We have all of the available information in the world at the tips of our fingers yet many squander it and instead are becoming more ignorant and ridiculous every day.
It's weird we have progressed in many ways but regressed in many as well.
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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Anahata]
#22419160 - 10/22/15 05:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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religious control and devoutness has decreased. people have to think about moral decisions more now. baby steps.
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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Ellis Dee] 5
#22419313 - 10/22/15 05:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Whoa now, I think you're forgetting about all the terrible shit that used to go on back then. Think back to New York before they started cracking down on crime. Now that place was a shit hole of lurid depravity. Not to mention everyone was riff with bigotry across the board. Why do you think nobody heard of Trans or gay people back then? Because those were the ones everyone beat the shit out of constantly, and don't even get me started on how outright racist everyone was. Fuck outta here with this "things used to be so much better" garbage.
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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Lophosaurus] 1
#22419317 - 10/22/15 05:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lophosaurus said: Not everyone married young or at all. They did have premarital sex. They did have abortions, they just used different methods like coat hangers. There were gay people, they would get beat up if they told everyone so they kept it hidden. This stuff might be happening more now, or it could be that people are more comfortable talking openly about this kind of stuff. It used to be very taboo to bring this stuff up, especially on TV I find it hard to believe that people changed that much over 50 or 100 years.
Right on brother.
OP, you should read about ancient Rome, they were as secular as they come. There really is nothing new under the sun.
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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#22419324 - 10/22/15 05:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Whoa now, I think you're forgetting about all the terrible shit that used to go on back then. Think back to New York before they started cracking down on crime. Now that place was a shit hole of lurid depravity. Not to mention everyone was riff with bigotry across the board. Why do you think nobody heard of Trans or gay people back then? Because those were the ones everyone beat the shit out of constantly, and don't even get me started on how outright racist everyone was. Fuck outta here with this "things used to be so much better" garbage.
I get it. Piss on the good old days.
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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Ellis Dee]
#22419334 - 10/22/15 05:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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people are more unsure of themselves then ever before. side effect of technology.
and because of that, people are paradoxically acting more sure of themselves then ever before.
confusion...run.
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#22419638 - 10/22/15 06:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Whoa now, I think you're forgetting about all the terrible shit that used to go on back then. Think back to New York before they started cracking down on crime. Now that place was a shit hole of lurid depravity. Not to mention everyone was riff with bigotry across the board. Why do you think nobody heard of Trans or gay people back then? Because those were the ones everyone beat the shit out of constantly, and don't even get me started on how outright racist everyone was. Fuck outta here with this "things used to be so much better" garbage.
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Lophosaurus said: Not everyone married young or at all. They did have premarital sex. They did have abortions, they just used different methods like coat hangers. There were gay people, they would get beat up if they told everyone so they kept it hidden. This stuff might be happening more now, or it could be that people are more comfortable talking openly about this kind of stuff. It used to be very taboo to bring this stuff up, especially on TV I find it hard to believe that people changed that much over 50 or 100 years.
QFT. I don't agree with you at all, OP.
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Re: Falling moral standards in out contemporary culture. [Re: Hellogoodbyedeath] 2
#22420505 - 10/22/15 09:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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My parents generation (1950's-60's) all got married with the bride pregnant at the alter at a young age (19-23 years old). One thing I will say, a very large percentage of them stayed married and didn't get divorced.
It was definitely a more innocent time period, it was also a more homogeneous culture which resulted in less social tensions like we have today.
Today we have things like "cultural diversity" forced down our throats on a daily basis and it has really been nothing but a major failure. So yes, our culture has turned into one big shit fest in many different ways.
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