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I Love Lucid
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High dose LSD
#22418222 - 10/22/15 01:00 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I made a thread recently about taking 7 grams of shrooms for my once-a-year trip. However, I have decided that LSD would be a better option for me, as it is more economical, I have more experience with it (up to 300ug), and I feel a stronger connection to it.
I plan on getting some very pure, tested LSD and was curious what type of dosage you would recommend (something along the lines of the intensity of 7 grams of dried cubes). I feel confident in my ability to handle higher doses.
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take 10 hits, you will see things you didn't think possible with lsd.
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Yeah eat a 10 strip... 300ug is like 2 good hits
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Re: High dose LSD [Re: SnowDaze]
#22418942 - 10/22/15 04:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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SnowDaze said: Yeah eat a 10 strip... 300ug is like 2 good hits
The most LSD I've ever had was back in college; four hits rated at 120ug each. I like to watch horror movies when I'm tripping. That night, I had Possession (1981) on when I hit the peak. There was this scene from the movie that got carved into my mind, and I had mild HPPD symptoms for six months.
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agreed ^ try ten or more Get the bathtub ready at 15
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I actually am considering taking a ten strip of 100ug blotter. Would it be a much longer duration than 12 hours? Also, do you think it'd be possible for me to stay within my apartment, or preferably my bed, for most of the trip or do you tend to get the urge to go outside, as you do on lower doses?
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I Love Lucid said: I actually am considering taking a ten strip of 100ug blotter. Would it be a much longer duration than 12 hours?
Not much longer
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Also, do you think it'd be possible for me to stay within my apartment, or preferably my bed, for most of the trip or do you tend to get the urge to go outside, as you do on lower doses?
Yes, but make sure you have a safe place outside in case you want to get some fresh air/ explore
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On 10 hits you might want to do much more than sit in your bed... I don't like to do much on psychs tho... Maybe that's just me
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Re: High dose LSD [Re: SnowDaze]
#22419054 - 10/22/15 04:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Higher Love said:
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I Love Lucid said: I actually am considering taking a ten strip of 100ug blotter. Would it be a much longer duration than 12 hours?
Not much longer
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Also, do you think it'd be possible for me to stay within my apartment, or preferably my bed, for most of the trip or do you tend to get the urge to go outside, as you do on lower doses?
Yes, but make sure you have a safe place outside in case you want to get some fresh air/ explore
I'll be sure to rent out a place with my sitter rather than trip in my parents house while they're away for a while (college student, don't have a place of my own at the moment).
What should I expect in terms how I will feel the day after this experience?
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If your signature is up-to-date, and you do indeed have DMT on hand and a suitable smoking apparatus, I'd highly recommend trying some at the peak of your trip if you think you can handle it. You'd need to invent words to describe the experience!
ed.: Sorry, no input from me on how you'd feel the day after ingesting a whole ten-strip. I remember feeling mentally refreshed after my (much lower dose) acid trips. Slightly scattered thoughts. Felt like I'd gone for a long run the night before.
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MushroomBear said: If your signature is up-to-date, and you do indeed have DMT on hand and a suitable smoking apparatus, I'd highly recommend trying some at the peak of your trip if you think you can handle it. You'd need to invent words to describe the experience!
ed.: Sorry, no input from me on how you'd feel the day after ingesting a whole ten-strip. I remember feeling mentally refreshed after my (much lower dose) acid trips. Slightly scattered thoughts. Felt like I'd gone for a long run the night before.
It is up to date and I have a bong and some changa. Maybe I'll try to give it a shot at some point during the experience as a first time doing DMT
I'll be sure to have some xanax on hand too
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I Love Lucid said: I actually am considering taking a ten strip of 100ug blotter. Would it be a much longer duration than 12 hours? Also, do you think it'd be possible for me to stay within my apartment, or preferably my bed, for most of the trip or do you tend to get the urge to go outside, as you do on lower doses?
It won't be longer than 12 hours. LSD doesn't work that way. You will have a mighty afterglow though.
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This is why tripping less than what comes naturally to you can be just as dangerous as overdoing it.
300ug to 1mg is a huge and reckless jump, especially considering that we're working with a exponential dose/response curve. To be honest, I'm disappointed and quite concerned that all of you are suggesting such an irresponsible dose, let alone trying DMT for the first time while on a high dose of another extremely powerful drug. A ten-strip of good LSD is way stronger than 7 grams of standard cubensis. Come on guys, this is supposed to be a harm reduction site.
OP, I suggest you try 500ug if you're feeling confident. It's unfortunate that you find yourself in a situation where you can only trip once per year, but that doesn't make working your way up slowly any less necessary. Taking a huge dose that you're not ready for could lead to you being turned off of psychedelics indefinitely, not to mention you doing something stupid or dangerous and making your girlfriend even more against your drug use.
If you want to make infrequent trips special, then do it with set and setting. Find a beautiful place to trip for the day and make an adventure out of it. If you still want to kick it up a notch, then smoke some weed or get some nitrous oxide canisters. You probably won't even need them, though. Don't underestimate the power of these substances, especially something as long lasting as LSD.
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Re: High dose LSD [Re: Starless]
#22419731 - 10/22/15 07:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Starless said: This is why tripping less than what comes naturally to you can be just as dangerous as overdoing it.
300ug to 1mg is a huge and reckless jump, especially considering that we're working with a exponential dose/response curve. To be honest, I'm disappointed and quite concerned that all of you are suggesting such an irresponsible dose, let alone trying DMT for the first time while on a high dose of another extremely powerful drug. A ten-strip of good LSD is way stronger than 7 grams of standard cubensis. Come on guys, this is supposed to be a harm reduction site.
OP, I suggest you try 500ug if you're feeling confident. It's unfortunate that you find yourself in a situation where you can only trip once per year, but that doesn't make working your way up slowly any less necessary. Taking a huge dose that you're not ready for could lead to you being turned off of psychedelics indefinitely, not to mention you doing something stupid or dangerous and making your girlfriend even more against your drug use.
If you want to make infrequent trips special, then do it with set and setting. Find a beautiful place to trip for the day and make an adventure out of it. If you still want to kick it up a notch, then smoke some weed or get some nitrous oxide canisters. You probably won't even need them, though. Don't underestimate the power of these substances, especially something as long lasting as LSD.
You're probably right, however during my previous trips I have always felt like I could handle more. I'm looking to step it up to a dose that won't leave me wanting more.
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1 mg is where it @ my sweet spot gotta be around 300-400ugs, but 1 mg is WHAT!!!Brain   
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@Starless: You're absolutely right. I just read Lucid's follow-up post and realised that he has yet to try DMT.
While I still stand by the unparalleled excellence of DMT during an LSD experience, 1) the extremely high dose Lucid is planning to experiment with, coupled with 2) his unfamiliarity with DMT makes it a very bad idea in this instance.
Sorry for the bunk advice earlier, Lucid. As an educator, I should be ashamed of myself
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MushroomBear said: @Starless: You're absolutely right. I just read Lucid's follow-up post and realised that he has yet to try DMT.
While I still stand by the unparalleled excellence of DMT during an LSD experience, 1) the extremely high dose Lucid is planning to experiment with, coupled with 2) his unfamiliarity with DMT makes it a very bad idea in this instance.
Sorry for the bunk advice earlier, Lucid. As an educator, I should be ashamed of myself 
It's all good man. What would you suggest as a more appropriate dose? I want something that won't leave me feeling like I want more.
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yeah thats why Im super careful who I give any trip too, cause you wont want that coming back on you...People dont really understand the chems to there full extent and as IME taken quiet a few rides to learn to fully navigate and some LVLS it still hard to come out of a 1mg LSD trip after smoking 50mg of DMT @ the peak, and coming out of it with knowledge to apply to your life...
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superbob57 said: yeah thats why Im super careful who I give any trip too, cause you wont want that coming back on you...People dont really understand the chems to there full extent and as IME taken quiet a few rides to learn to fully navigate and some LVLS it still hard to come out of a 1mg LSD trip after smoking 50mg of DMT @ the peak, and coming out of it with knowledge to apply to your life...
What's your opinion on 600-800ug? Would this experience be more appropriate than 1mg? I feel confident in my ability to handle higher doses. I experienced ego death on 200ug so I understand the power and potential of this drug. I have also found 300ug didn't feel like enough and I wasn't terribly impressed by my salvia breakthrough experience either (I understand this is an entirely different drug).
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Yeah, I have no idea what DMT on 1mg of LSD would even feel like, which is why I should never have even recommended it.
DMT's always been more of a pure sensory experience for me. I'd sit on a roller coaster to experience 5Gs; I'd smoke DMT to feel my body manifest at two places at once. The experiences are too alien to integrate into everyday life, but the perspective is refreshing. Or maybe I'm too blind to appreciate the lesson.
It's really the only thing I've experienced that can be more surreal than a dream. Pretty crazy.
ed.: given that my highest dosage was 480ug, I'll pass on making any recommendations above that. Even then, I'd consider 480ug a pretty reckless dose.
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I find it hard to believe that 300 mics isn't enough. Most likely OP is overestimating his doses. There's no need to constantly up the dose. Many other variables play a pivotal role in the experience, such as set & setting. There seems to be a common theme of "not tripping hard enough".......until people do, and immediately wish that it would stop. Dropping a ten strip off the bat isn't smart. Gotta test it for one. If it is LSD, the dose could vary widely. And it's a massive jump if the doses are laid right. Seeing people talk about 300 mics like it's nothing is laughable. The common consensus as to the potency of LSD is so far off base anymore.
I've eaten up to ~3,000 mics knowingly & without a tolerance. Most likely eaten more with a tolerance, and without paying much attention to how much I was taking. I can say that 200 mics is plenty. I take LSD sparingly anymore, and it's always special when I do. Anywhere near the 200 mic range gives me all that I want/need from the experience. Won't be going above 300 again, if I even go that high again. There's just no need.
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Dark_Star said: I find it hard to believe that 300 mics isn't enough. Most likely OP is overestimating his doses. There's no need to constantly up the dose. Many other variables play a pivotal role in the experience, such as set & setting. There seems to be a common theme of "not tripping hard enough".......until people do, and immediately wish that it would stop. Dropping a ten strip off the bat isn't smart. Gotta test it for one. If it is LSD, the dose could vary widely. And it's a massive jump if the doses are laid right. Seeing people talk about 300 mics like it's nothing is laughable. The common consensus as to the potency of LSD is so far off base anymore.
I've eaten up to ~3,000 mics knowingly & without a tolerance. Most likely eaten more with a tolerance, and without paying much attention to how much I was taking. I can say that 200 mics is plenty. I take LSD sparingly anymore, and it's always special when I do. Anywhere near the 200 mic range gives me all that I want/need from the experience. Won't be going above 300 again, if I even go that high again. There's just no need.
It was closer to 270ug as I took one and a half 180ug darknet blotters. I can guarantee based on comparison that they were accurately dosed. It was definitely an amazing and powerful experience that I appreciated having. However, I still would like to experience the more immersive LSD doses.
I agree that it's not all about dose, which is why I am considering lower doses. I am planning on being with my best friend while I trip, which will be a first, and I am going to try to do it somewhere that I won't have to worry about other people.
I am feeling like a 500-600ug dose would be much more reasonable as well as something I'll be able gain lasting insights from, while still being a high, somewhat immersive dose.
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Dosage of darknet blotters are notoriously advertised higher than they are. Unless they've been tested, you don't know. As well with the doses you're comparing them to. Unless you laid those, or they were tested, you have no clue what the dosage was.....and I guarantee the dealer was hyping them as way over what they truly were.
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Dark_Star said: Dosage of darknet blotters are notoriously advertised higher than they are. Unless they've been tested, you don't know. As well with the doses you're comparing them to. Unless you laid those, or they were tested, you have no clue what the dosage was.....and I guarantee the dealer was hyping them as way over what they truly were.
The dude I got those orange gels from literally thought they were 800ug for some reason haha. Like wtf?
No complaints on getting good acid for a good price, but why the hell are people telling others that they've got 800ug doses haha
Then some really old dude at the same fest who had like an enormous tatoo of grateful dead wings on his back said that all gels are mescaline. then some other dude said they're LSA.
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Re: High dose LSD [Re: Sheekle]
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Dark_Star said: Dosage of darknet blotters are notoriously advertised higher than they are. Unless they've been tested, you don't know. As well with the doses you're comparing them to. Unless you laid those, or they were tested, you have no clue what the dosage was.....and I guarantee the dealer was hyping them as way over what they truly were.
I agree that dealers overhype their doses, however I've tried small doses of these tabs and tripped off half a 100ug darknet tab. This leads me to believe it actually was 100ug. I also got threshold effects off 1/6th of a 180ug tab. The effects of significant doses on the these tabs also matched up with the effects others describe occurring at these doses. My 270ug experience was quite powerful, however I would still like to experience higher doses.
My current plan is to take 500ug.
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300ugs and 500ugs are pretty similiar to me
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Re: High dose LSD [Re: LuckeyMA]
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LuckeyMA said: 300ugs and 500ugs are pretty similiar to me
Hm, really? How do 600ug or 700ug compare to those doses?
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7gs mush + 300ug= 
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Heh, maybe another time.
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Gonna do this ^ next tue!
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voodoochild1000 said: Gonna do this ^ next tue!
Damn, best wishes for you man.
Would you be able to tell me how 300ug, 500ug, and 700ug compare?
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I haven't been above 500....but that was the best lsd trip of my life...I was saying. .."...I wanna do 10 hits of this!....MORE!..."....if your shit is smooth....go for it!
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I really like a solid mush dose with the added lsd "bonkers" element...spiritual like mush...with added visuals!
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voodoochild1000 said: I haven't been above 500....but that was the best lsd trip of my life...I was saying. .."...I wanna do 10 hits of this!....MORE!..."....if your shit is smooth....go for it!
How would you say 500ug compares to 300ug?
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Same thing really, just hits a bit quicker/harder, and the comedown is more visual.
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Dark_Star said: Same thing really, just hits a bit quicker/harder, and the comedown is more visual.
Does 600ug or 700ug seem like a significantly different experience?
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Re: High dose LSD [Re: SnowDaze]
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I'll just waiting for OPs "I lost my shit on acid and ended up in jail" thread
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Have Xanax or some benzo on hand incase if gets to be too much...
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Re: High dose LSD [Re: SnowDaze]
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Malcolm_Xtasy said: Anything past like 400 ug is enough for me honestly. My brain is leaking out of my ears at that point
Do you feel doses of 500-700ug are significantly different than 300ug trips? People have been telling me 300ug and 500ug are fairly similar and I would like to experience a dose stronger than 300ug.
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The idea that some people are comfortable with 1mg of LSD really confuses me. I commend anyone who can integrate that kind of intensity, Jesus Christ.
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Re: High dose LSD [Re: SnowDaze]
#22422693 - 10/23/15 12:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Just to restate my question, how much LSD creates a significantly stronger experience than 300ug?
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What are you expecting past 300 ug? Your doses might not be as strong as you think
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Malcolm_Xtasy said: What are you expecting past 300 ug? Your doses might not be as strong as you think
I'm expecting a more immersive, more insightful trip. I'm know my last doses were accurate and I will test my new ones at low doses to see at what point I get threshold effects to determine the actual dosage.
The 300ug experience was very insightful, however, I am interested in seeing what higher doses have to offer. Whether that is ego death, other mystical experience, or even just a new perspective. I didn't feel overwhelmed by 300ug (despite it being a very solid and powerful trip) and I have experienced ego death on LSD and breakthrough salvia. I feel comfortable handling higher doses.
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At 300 ug I'm almost overtaken by visuals. I get physical sensations of melting into whatever i'm laying on or sitting on. If I listen to music I get corresponding dancing patterns all over myself and my surroundings. if I smoke on the come up it can definitely be even more intense. My last trip was probably around 300 and my body felt like it was deconstructing itself into its most basically elements (DNA strands and other molecules). If I close my eyes for long periods of time I get lost in the the intricacy of the geometry. That shit can be pretty scary sometimes once you realize it just continues infinite. These are pretty intense experiences for me. I can't see how taking more is gonna blast you that much further out there, if anything it'll probably just hit you a little faster.
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Malcolm_Xtasy said: At 300 ug I'm almost overtaken by visuals. I get physical sensations of melting into whatever i'm laying on or sitting on. If I listen to music I get corresponding dancing patterns all over myself and my surroundings. if I smoke on the come up it can definitely be even more intense. My last trip was probably around 300 and my body felt like it was deconstructing itself into its most basically elements (DNA strands and other molecules). If I close my eyes for long periods of time I get lost in the the intricacy of the geometry. That shit can be pretty scary sometimes once you realize it just continues infinite. These are pretty intense experiences for me. I can't see how taking more is gonna blast you that much further out there, if anything it'll probably just hit you a little faster.
I had moments like this during my 300ug (actually ~270ug) trip too and I smoked throughout it. However, there were only a couple moments where I got full-blown visuals (what I was seeing becoming a kaleidoscope or becoming a 2-D plane and with everything shifting and changing simultaneously). I am looking to get more immersive visuals like this with higher doses and greater ego loss.
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Well I'd say start with 5
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That sounds reasonable. How does the experience compare to 300ug?
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It'll probably just hit you faster and the mindfuck will definitely be more intense. I can't really tell you how its gonna effect you personally
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Malcolm_Xtasy said: It'll probably just hit you faster and the mindfuck will definitely be more intense. I can't really tell you how its gonna effect you personally
Thank you. Just curious, why do you seem to be opposed to, or do you no you not see the value in, high dose experiences?
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300 mics is a fully immersive dose assuming it's taken without a tolerance. Ego death is very likely, though that's more of a set & setting thing than a dose thing. I've had that happen on under 200 mics. 300 mics is a fucking lot. Period. Frankly your description of the "270 mic" trip doesn't sound like it was anywhere near that dose. Albert Hofmann thought he was dead & in the afterlife when he took 250 mics. The fact is, guesstimating dose isn't an accurate measure. What your dealer said isn't an accurate measure. Feeling effects from slivers isn't an accurate measure. I used to get L straight from the folks breaking down the crystal, so I knew the dose. I've also eaten laboratory tested doses, so I knew the dose. The fact is, before all of that I grossly overestimated how much I was really taking. LSD is far more potent than most people give it credit for.
I'm naturally more tolerant to LSD than many people I know. I used to eat the stuff by the mg & more. And despite all of that, taking ~200 mics still overwhelms me today. I do it sparingly, and my world is rocked. If you want an immersive experience, you're better served by preparing yourself for it & taking a reasonable strong dose...not flooding yourself with it. This is coming from years of experience with this substance. Of course people need to make their own choices/mistakes. So if you want to eat a tenstrip, go for it. Use an ehrlichs first to make sure it's not something that'll kill you if you take too much. Have folks around to look after you. Realize that a tenstrip doesn't mean a mg. Could be 200 mics total....20 mic blotters are a thing. Could be a bit over a mg. It's a crapshoot. And don't come here posting about how LSD is the devil & you're never doing drugs again if you flip your wig. You've been warned.
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Yeah honestly your blotters are probably closer to 80ug than 180ug... 180ug would be some of the strongest tabs I've seen in a long time
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Dark_Star said: 300 mics is a fully immersive dose assuming it's taken without a tolerance. Ego death is very likely, though that's more of a set & setting thing than a dose thing. I've had that happen on under 200 mics. 300 mics is a fucking lot. Period. Frankly your description of the "270 mic" trip doesn't sound like it was anywhere near that dose. Albert Hofmann thought he was dead & in the afterlife when he took 250 mics. The fact is, guesstimating dose isn't an accurate measure. What your dealer said isn't an accurate measure. Feeling effects from slivers isn't an accurate measure. I used to get L straight from the folks breaking down the crystal, so I knew the dose. I've also eaten laboratory tested doses, so I knew the dose. The fact is, before all of that I grossly overestimated how much I was really taking. LSD is far more potent than most people give it credit for.
I'm naturally more tolerant to LSD than many people I know. I used to eat the stuff by the mg & more. And despite all of that, taking ~200 mics still overwhelms me today. I do it sparingly, and my world is rocked. If you want an immersive experience, you're better served by preparing yourself for it & taking a reasonable strong dose...not flooding yourself with it. This is coming from years of experience with this substance. Of course people need to make their own choices/mistakes. So if you want to eat a tenstrip, go for it. Use an ehrlichs first to make sure it's not something that'll kill you if you take too much. Have folks around to look after you. Realize that a tenstrip doesn't mean a mg. Could be 200 mics total....20 mic blotters are a thing. Could be a bit over a mg. It's a crapshoot. And don't come here posting about how LSD is the devil & you're never doing drugs again if you flip your wig. You've been warned.
I don't plan on eating a 10-strip. My first trip was on two supposedly 100ug tabs from a reliable DNM vendor and it turned my world upside down. It was a strong trip and I had an ego death experience. The 270ug trip was significantly stronger than that including things such as synesthesia, kaleidoscopic visuals, highly defined and immersive CEVs, and strong breathing, warping, flowing wood-grain, etc. However, I still feel as if my 200ug experience was more intense and perhaps I am simply more tolerant of higher doses now.
I'm not knocking 300ug experiences, I understand it's extremely powerful. However, I don't believe experiences with higher doses any less valuable. If I'm not mistaken, Timothy Leary himself called 400ug a religious experience. Clearly people find value in higher doses.
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Re: High dose LSD [Re: SnowDaze]
#22423044 - 10/23/15 01:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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SnowDaze said: Yeah honestly your blotters are probably closer to 80ug than 180ug... 180ug would be some of the strongest tabs I've seen in a long time
I wouldn't have been able to get threshold effects off of 1/6th of an 80ug tab dosed volumetrically.
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Dark_Star said: 300 mics is a fully immersive dose assuming it's taken without a tolerance. Ego death is very likely, though that's more of a set & setting thing than a dose thing. I've had that happen on under 200 mics. 300 mics is a fucking lot. Period. Frankly your description of the "270 mic" trip doesn't sound like it was anywhere near that dose. Albert Hofmann thought he was dead & in the afterlife when he took 250 mics. The fact is, guesstimating dose isn't an accurate measure. What your dealer said isn't an accurate measure. Feeling effects from slivers isn't an accurate measure. I used to get L straight from the folks breaking down the crystal, so I knew the dose. I've also eaten laboratory tested doses, so I knew the dose. The fact is, before all of that I grossly overestimated how much I was really taking. LSD is far more potent than most people give it credit for.
I'm naturally more tolerant to LSD than many people I know. I used to eat the stuff by the mg & more. And despite all of that, taking ~200 mics still overwhelms me today. I do it sparingly, and my world is rocked. If you want an immersive experience, you're better served by preparing yourself for it & taking a reasonable strong dose...not flooding yourself with it. This is coming from years of experience with this substance. Of course people need to make their own choices/mistakes. So if you want to eat a tenstrip, go for it. Use an ehrlichs first to make sure it's not something that'll kill you if you take too much. Have folks around to look after you. Realize that a tenstrip doesn't mean a mg. Could be 200 mics total....20 mic blotters are a thing. Could be a bit over a mg. It's a crapshoot. And don't come here posting about how LSD is the devil & you're never doing drugs again if you flip your wig. You've been warned.
I doubt that you know the dosage on your blotters and certainly not to the +/-10 u range. I took an altoid once with a few drops of liquid on it. It was maybe ~200 u, however I don't really know how much it was. The visuals was so immersive that it didn't matter if my eyes were open or closed for several hours. It was a great experience, and I don't think I would ever need to go above that dose.
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SnowDaze said: Yeah honestly your blotters are probably closer to 80ug than 180ug... 180ug would be some of the strongest tabs I've seen in a long time
I wouldn't have been able to get threshold effects off of 1/6th of an 80ug tab dosed volumetrically.
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Tim Leary was a spunion. As was I. There was a time when 1,000 mics was my preferred dose. I get more out 200 mics today than I did out of 1,000 mics 10 years ago. You can have a religious experience off 80 mics....even less for some people. It's not necessarily the dose that makes the experience. Dose plays a strong role, but there are myriad other factors that just as important, if not more important. And you most certainly could have gotten threshold effects off 1/6 of an 80 mic blotter. To this day my one friend raves about these microdots we got in 2003. He took 3, and swears up & down that the experience was incredible & that the dots were incredible. They were lab tested later, and were only 21 mics per hit.
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Re: High dose LSD [Re: SnowDaze]
#22423115 - 10/23/15 01:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Whether or not my previous doses are accurate doesn't particularly matter as my current doses are just as likely to be dosed inaccurately.
If I am aiming for a 300-400ug experience of real, how many tabs of acid that are supposedly 100ug needlepoint should I take?
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Re: High dose LSD [Re: SnowDaze]
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Sounds great to me. Thank you.
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I'd edit that post if I were you. Too much info.
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Re: High dose LSD [Re: 4HO-DMT]
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SnowDaze said: 5
Sounds great to me. Thank you.
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Dark_Star said: 300 mics is a fully immersive dose assuming it's taken without a tolerance. Ego death is very likely, though that's more of a set & setting thing than a dose thing. I've had that happen on under 200 mics. 300 mics is a fucking lot. Period. Frankly your description of the "270 mic" trip doesn't sound like it was anywhere near that dose. Albert Hofmann thought he was dead & in the afterlife when he took 250 mics. The fact is, guesstimating dose isn't an accurate measure. What your dealer said isn't an accurate measure. Feeling effects from slivers isn't an accurate measure. I used to get L straight from the folks breaking down the crystal, so I knew the dose. I've also eaten laboratory tested doses, so I knew the dose. The fact is, before all of that I grossly overestimated how much I was really taking. LSD is far more potent than most people give it credit for.
I'm naturally more tolerant to LSD than many people I know. I used to eat the stuff by the mg & more. And despite all of that, taking ~200 mics still overwhelms me today. I do it sparingly, and my world is rocked. If you want an immersive experience, you're better served by preparing yourself for it & taking a reasonable strong dose...not flooding yourself with it. This is coming from years of experience with this substance. Of course people need to make their own choices/mistakes. So if you want to eat a tenstrip, go for it. Use an ehrlichs first to make sure it's not something that'll kill you if you take too much. Have folks around to look after you. Realize that a tenstrip doesn't mean a mg. Could be 200 mics total....20 mic blotters are a thing. Could be a bit over a mg. It's a crapshoot. And don't come here posting about how LSD is the devil & you're never doing drugs again if you flip your wig. You've been warned.
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Hey I know that this is slightly off topic but I didn't know where else to ask this question. I have done a multitude of hallucinogens lots of different times, however I will soon be dropping some good lsd with my friend who has never before been high on anything (he's smoking marijuana twice, but didn't feel anything). Do you think it's better if we give him a half tab his first time, or should he do the whole thing? Will it be too intense on a whole tab if he has no drug experience?
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Re: High dose LSD [Re: Grenwolf]
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Depends on how strong it is. Take one yourself first to get a gauge. If one flattens you, than you can give him half. If one is a solid trip but not overwhelming, one is good. If one is just a buzz, give him a bit more than one.
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I would recommend taking melatonin. That will make your trip seem much more "dream-like" and help you relax.
If you have access to edible cannabis, especially concentrated edible hash oil, eat some after 1 hour into your trip in addition to taking 5-10 MG of melatonin.
Your two hour peak will be a roller coaster, but it'll be great. I just did this last night but with 8 hits. Roughly 1,100 or so MG since each one was at about 150. I had no urge to go anywhere. The melatonin allowed me to relax.
I also buy a gallon of milk prior to the trip. I find food is too hard to eat, but during a bad trip sometimes I'll go guzzle a bunch of milk and it turns out I must of had a stomach ache or something.
Milk is much easier to take down than whole food and it provides an adequate nutritional benefit. Especially protein.
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2 hour peak? LSD peaks last 4-6 hours. A bit longer when taking 500+ mics.
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MisterEuphenism said: I would recommend taking melatonin. That will make your trip seem much more "dream-like" and help you relax.
If you have access to edible cannabis, especially concentrated edible hash oil, eat some after 1 hour into your trip in addition to taking 5-10 MG of melatonin.
Your two hour peak will be a roller coaster, but it'll be great. I just did this last night but with 8 hits. Roughly 1,100 or so MG since each one was at about 150. I had no urge to go anywhere. The melatonin allowed me to relax.
I also buy a gallon of milk prior to the trip. I find food is too hard to eat, but during a bad trip sometimes I'll go guzzle a bunch of milk and it turns out I must of had a stomach ache or something.
Milk is much easier to take down than whole food and it provides an adequate nutritional benefit. Especially protein.
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I'm also in the position of having tried upto 300mcg of LSD and have been interested in higher doses so this thread is quite interesting... although i've yet to explore further myself i tend to agree with Dark Star that 200mcg is easily enough with the right set & setting.
I've found that 300mcg with my eyes open, and 300mcg laying down in bed with eyeshades & headphones on are worlds apart. A true 200mcg with eye shades & headphones can be a fully immersive experience.
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Since we're talking doses. What's a sweet spot? Im thinking of 216ug next. (72ug tabs), fairly new to LSD. Love it solo.
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