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President Clinton just said Libya was a success
    #22417924 - 10/22/15 11:56 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yep Hillary your next president  said  "Libya is a success " .......





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Since then, Libya has fragmented into two rival factions that have erased any pretense that democracy or freedom exists in the country. There are mass collective punishments as tens of thousands of political prisoners are thrown into camps. Violence is up. Proliferation of weapons has increased. Causalities have spiked since the war. Ansar al-Sharia, the group accused of murdering American diplomats, is more powerful now than it was before the U.S. got involved. One estimate says that militias have grown from an estimated 40,000 fighters in 2011, to 160,000 today. This is now the place to which Coptic Christians are marched out onto beaches and beheaded. The war has created a refugee crisis.






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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: trekie] * 4
    #22417947 - 10/22/15 12:00 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

What a joke, I guess they'll say Iraq and Afghanistan was a success as well. 

How about we stay the fuck out of those places in the first place.


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: qman] * 4
    #22417967 - 10/22/15 12:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

How the fuck does she have so much support.. I just don't get it


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: SnowDaze]
    #22418064 - 10/22/15 12:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah , this whole thing will never make me vote democratic again oh wait I never did.



Im hoping the FBI arrest  the Clinton's . They stink as bad as jeb! bush.




  I would love to see a Sanders v Carson .  Either the country will  Bernie or we might get a smart non devises libertarian leaning guy.

I dont get why anyone support a democrat the party of slavery and segregation .
Im hoping for a third party dark horse like former Governor Gary Johnson. Fuck these dynasties and dinosaur's


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: trekie] * 1
    #22418113 - 10/22/15 12:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I'd love to see Bernie run. I'd vote for him in a heartbeat. Having said that, I don't care much for Hilary, but with the Tea partiers and their Evangelical brethren now running the Republican party, I'd definitely vote for her against anyone the the Repubs may run.
BTW it is true that 150+ years ago, the Democratic party supported slavery, but both parties have totally switched polarity in the years since.


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: trekie] * 4
    #22418149 - 10/22/15 12:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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She did exactly what she wanted to do with Libya. Before the US led coup de ta Libya was a prosperous country and a main unifying force in Africa. They were even planning to establish a new African currency, the gold Dinar, to sell oil in. After the coup Libya no longer threatens US Dollar interests nor are they any threat for the foreseeable future. Dollar rescued and mission accomplished.


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #22418159 - 10/22/15 12:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

that sexless dyke needs putting out to pasture (with extreme prejudice)


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Le_Canard]
    #22418175 - 10/22/15 12:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I think Libertines  need to take control of the Republican party. In the current field of Republican candidates there are a few I could see doing a decent job.


Ben Carson , Rand Paul , John Kasich


Lincoln Chafee , Jim Webb


Dark horse third party
Former governor
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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: trekie] * 1
    #22418214 - 10/22/15 12:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Hilary isn't going to win.

But it would appear that way to anyone who doesn't look deeper into things, since they've been promoting a false reality in our media ever since she started running :smilingpuppy:


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: twighead] * 2
    #22418230 - 10/22/15 01:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I hope she crashes and burns in this thing and Bernie ends up the democratic candidate


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: SnowDaze] * 6
    #22418252 - 10/22/15 01:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Adolin] * 2
    #22418312 - 10/22/15 01:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Well, whenever the west destroy a muslim country that has oil, it's always called a success.


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Patlal]
    #22418328 - 10/22/15 01:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Canada is next    :warcry:


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: trekie]
    #22418331 - 10/22/15 01:29 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Ugh she's such a dumb bitch.


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: qman] * 1
    #22418375 - 10/22/15 01:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

LPTA  helped push through with her husband. ......

We used to have the marines guard them but apparently giving some random Islamist a few millions of dollars

Just like  the mandatory minimums  and the privatization of the prison system  also under the Clifton's ....

Then the whole banking industry shit......
Which led to the whole money = free speech...

In the 90's the Clinton were aint gay marriage and harsh penalties for drug offends and expansion of the federal government.


  Wacco , Ruby Ridge  OK city bombing ......

  They are fucking scum .


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: trekie]
    #22418389 - 10/22/15 01:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Any idea how it went this morning when she testified for the benghazi committee?  Im at work and couldnt watch it


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #22418863 - 10/22/15 03:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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trekie said:
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She did exactly what she wanted to do with Libya. Before the US led coup de ta Libya was a prosperous country and a main unifying force in Africa. They were even planning to establish a new African currency, the gold Dinar, to sell oil in. After the coup Libya no longer threatens US Dollar interests nor are they any threat for the foreseeable future. Dollar rescued and mission accomplished.




The Libya action was NOT US led.  It was the stupid French and because we both belong to NATO we went along


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Herbologist] * 1
    #22418870 - 10/22/15 03:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Any idea how it went this morning when she testified for the benghazi committee?  Im at work and couldnt watch it



She dodged and obfuscated and squirmed.  As per all expectations.


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22418883 - 10/22/15 03:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
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trekie said:
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She did exactly what she wanted to do with Libya. Before the US led coup de ta Libya was a prosperous country and a main unifying force in Africa. They were even planning to establish a new African currency, the gold Dinar, to sell oil in. After the coup Libya no longer threatens US Dollar interests nor are they any threat for the foreseeable future. Dollar rescued and mission accomplished.




The Libya action was NOT US led.  It was the stupid French and because we both belong to NATO we went along




ostensibly French lead, backed and propogated by American politicians


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Mad_Larkin]
    #22418928 - 10/22/15 03:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

False.  It was mostly at the impetus of Bernard Henri Levy


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22419125 - 10/22/15 04:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

But the US did luanch about  130 tommawks at 750k a piece . Just the french and brits pussed out like always.


Look at there success in mali........


And its not like this is causing the EU to be flooded with "refugees "


The Arab spring was the biggest faluire since after ww1 we didnt clean there commie clocks  sent a shit ton of weapons cost millions of lives and we got Stalin and Hitler out of the mess.


Now who will emerge from this shit show I dont know  these people and taft are far worse then carter or nixon dreamed off


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: trekie] * 1
    #22419222 - 10/22/15 05:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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But the US did luanch about  130 tommawks at 750k a piece . Just the french and brits pussed out like always.


Look at there success in mali........


And its not like this is causing the EU to be flooded with "refugees "


The Arab spring was the biggest faluire since after ww1 we didnt clean there commie clocks  sent a shit ton of weapons cost millions of lives and we got Stalin and Hitler out of the mess.


Now who will emerge from this shit show I dont know  these people and taft are far worse then carter or nixon dreamed off



We are part of NATO.  We really had not much choice.  Any casual dipshit should have known that deposing Mubarek would usher in the Muslim Brotherhood.  Any casual dipshit should have known that deposing Gaddafi would usher in chaos.  Any casual dipshit should have known that making hollow threats in Syria would have been an embarrassment.  In Iraq and Afghanistan we stayed long enough, until stupid came along, to at least get a semblance of stability.  Then stupid let chaos come in.

The President's greatest power is in foreign affairs.  Stupid has produced one failure after another and the Clinton cunt helped him.  Congress rules domestic.  Or is supposed to.  Unfortunately the weeper in chief had the cojones of a gelding.  The American people snatched control of the Congress from the Democrats specifically to counter Obama and the Republican leadership totally ignored the voters who put them on top.


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22419944 - 10/22/15 07:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

We had loads of choice. If we were against it it wouldn't happen in the first place.


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Le_Canard]
    #22419988 - 10/22/15 08:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I'd love to see Bernie run. I'd vote for him in a heartbeat. Having said that, I don't care much for Hilary, but with the Tea partiers and their Evangelical brethren now running the Republican party, I'd definitely vote for her against anyone the the Repubs may run.
BTW it is true that 150+ years ago, the Democratic party supported slavery, but both parties have totally switched polarity in the years since.




I think the democrats stopped supporting slavery right after former president LB Johnson said, in the mid 60's 'i'll have those ni.....gers voting democrat for the next 200 years....'

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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: starfire_xes]
    #22420299 - 10/22/15 09:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Obama just vetoed a defense budget bill.


While I agree some rather expensive and wasteful spending but just as Clinton's cuts made us go into Iraq without body armor so it is with obamla .

A real war is brewing. 

I would scrape the f22 and not mothball the A 10 . The USA now has no official CAS aircraft. Just the idiocy of most of the "modern presidents " they were crooks for the last century.

I'm glad to see Ben Carson doing well. I won't vote Trump not saying he would blow up the world . In fact he might do an OK job he would surround himself with smart people.

I like a few others but really looks like after the primary I'm voting 3 rd party again.

Maybe the people's tax payers party just for the fuck of it all. I'm in a strange blue state.


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22421638 - 10/23/15 06:35 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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False.  It was mostly at the impetus of Bernard Henri Levy




you'd be naive to think the sabre rattling didn't come from the US Govt. the fact it was French/British lead was basically a PR stunt, they didn't want the US to be seen to be leading yet another legally dubious "invasion" of an Arab nation.


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: starfire_xes]
    #22421643 - 10/23/15 06:39 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I'd love to see Bernie run. I'd vote for him in a heartbeat. Having said that, I don't care much for Hilary, but with the Tea partiers and their Evangelical brethren now running the Republican party, I'd definitely vote for her against anyone the the Repubs may run.
BTW it is true that 150+ years ago, the Democratic party supported slavery, but both parties have totally switched polarity in the years since.




I think the democrats stopped supporting slavery right after former president LB Johnson said, in the mid 60's 'i'll have those ni.....gers voting democrat for the next 200 years....'

:lolsy:



But ya the Democrats were once the conservatives and the Republicans were once the liberals.


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: NotTheDevil] * 1
    #22421835 - 10/23/15 08:08 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Liberalism and conservatism are not what they tell you, both ideologies have been poisoned by traitorous scum.
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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Le_Canard] * 1
    #22421860 - 10/23/15 08:17 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I'd love to see Bernie run. I'd vote for him in a heartbeat. Having said that, I don't care much for Hilary, but with the Tea partiers and their Evangelical brethren now running the Republican party, I'd definitely vote for her against anyone the the Repubs may run.
BTW it is true that 150+ years ago, the Democratic party supported slavery, but both parties have totally switched polarity in the years since.



Ha. The teapublicans just have a big mouth in congress. Some of the more favorable Republican candidates are actually very moderate. I'd take a center-leaning Republican over the loony ass left any day.


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Mad_Larkin]
    #22421869 - 10/23/15 08:20 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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False.  It was mostly at the impetus of Bernard Henri Levy




you'd be naive to think the sabre rattling didn't come from the US Govt. the fact it was French/British lead was basically a PR stunt, they didn't want the US to be seen to be leading yet another legally dubious "invasion" of an Arab nation.




That is correct and only the most naïve fools believe the official story.


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Le_Canard] * 2
    #22421874 - 10/23/15 08:22 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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BTW it is true that 150+ years ago, the Democratic party supported slavery, but both parties have totally switched polarity in the years since.





hahahaha... 50 years ago the democrat party supported slavery and they didnt switch
platforms, the democrats switched tactics, they still keep blacks suppressed and
broke while encouraging them to support this modern slavery through 'freebies' from
the government. it was clearly proven in the debate when all the candidate kept
promising 'free stuff if you vote for me'. unfortunately, to qualify for the free
stuff, you have to be of specific ethnicity and poor.






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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22423944 - 10/23/15 05:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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False.  It was mostly at the impetus of Bernard Henri Levy




you'd be naive to think the sabre rattling didn't come from the US Govt. the fact it was French/British lead was basically a PR stunt, they didn't want the US to be seen to be leading yet another legally dubious "invasion" of an Arab nation.




That is correct and only the most naïve fools believe the official story.




For what possible reason would the US want to fuck with Libya?  Or Great Britain for that matter.  But the idiot French had motivation.  Do you think that in the lead up to that idiocy everything the French said was a cover story for a senseless act of American adventurism?  :flowstone:  The Nato treaty kind of obligates us.  If we don't help them they won't help us later.


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22424088 - 10/23/15 06:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

There are fools and damned fools, you can help the one but not the other.

>Do you think that in the lead up to that idiocy everything the French said was a cover story for a senseless act of American adventurism?

You mean like Syria, Afghanistan, the ongoing occupation of Iraq, those kinds of senseless adventures your hero obumble always embarks upon? He is furiously intent on dislodging assad, before that it was kadafi he wanted out and he got him out. Before either of them it was saddam. I know you are happy anytime an arab is dead but this all fits the pattern. Obumble wanted an excuse and got it.


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: qman] * 1
    #22424099 - 10/23/15 06:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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What a joke, I guess they'll say Iraq and Afghanistan was a success as well. 

How about we stay the fuck out of those places in the first place.




It is a success to them as they've successful dissolved the Arab nation as a world power. Never think of politics as being something operating for the greater good.


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22424102 - 10/23/15 06:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

We aren't doing shit in Syria, your hero Putin is.  Iraq and Afghanistan were completely necessary.  Gaddafi had been pacified and even agreed to pay reparations.  There was no US interest that could have been furthered by taking him out.


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22424129 - 10/23/15 06:16 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

>We aren't doing shit in Syria, your hero Putin is.

Oh you mean right now at this moment? What about before that? Do you ever read the papers or watch tv? Obumble was totally gung ho for a full invasion and had to settle for mucking around which he did at great cost to our nation. Even now the idiot is bombing a power station and killing more civilians. Also dropping loads of munitions in the desert to stir the pot.

>Iraq and Afghanistan were completely necessary.

They were not only unnecessary but also counter productive to our interests. Iraq is now a shit hole and will soon be under the control of isis/ al quaida. Afghanistan is where world powers go to die. Russia learned a lesson there but our idiots still haven't learned. Now he is paying Karzai the two bit dictator over there for the privilege of us staying and spending billions more.

>Gaddafi had been pacified and even agreed to pay reparations.  There was no US interest that could have been furthered by taking him out.

Since when has that meant anything to obumble? He wanted kadaffi out and got him out. Why does he want assad out? It would turn the country over to isis just as Libya is going and Iraq will go later. You support isis? Why?


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Stonehenge]
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>We aren't doing shit in Syria, your hero Putin is.

Oh you mean right now at this moment? What about before that? Do you ever read the papers or watch tv? Obumble was totally gung ho for a full invasion and had to settle for mucking around which he did at great cost to our nation. Even now the idiot is bombing a power station and killing more civilians. Also dropping loads of munitions in the desert to stir the pot.




No he wasn't.  I do read the papers.  I do not watch TV news.  At no point was Obama gung ho for an invasion.  If he had been he would have done it
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>Iraq and Afghanistan were completely necessary.

They were not only unnecessary but also counter productive to our interests. Iraq is now a shit hole and will soon be under the control of isis/ al quaida. Afghanistan is where world powers go to die. Russia learned a lesson there but our idiots still haven't learned. Now he is paying Karzai the two bit dictator over there for the privilege of us staying and spending billions more.




Karzai is not the President of Afghanistan.  Do you read the newspapers?
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>Gaddafi had been pacified and even agreed to pay reparations.  There was no US interest that could have been furthered by taking him out.

Since when has that meant anything to obumble? He wanted kadaffi out and got him out. Why does he want assad out? It would turn the country over to isis just as Libya is going and Iraq will go later. You support isis? Why?




Sorry.  I hate the man but there is no reason whatsoever to paint him as a war monger.  That is just stupid.  He caused two ill-advised withdrawals and didn't do shit in either Syria or Libya.  Flying a few bombing runs is not invading.  If anything he is a total pussy.

That being said I would have done nothing in Syria and nothing more than what we did to fulfill our NATO obligations which was a few bombing runs.


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: zappaisgod]
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>At no point was Obama gung ho for an invasion.  If he had been he would have done it

Sometimes I wonder if you are playing dumb for sympathy. Obumble asked congress to authorize war, it did not. He threatened to go in anyway, said he has a pen and a phone. He did it half assed and it sputtered out as we have seen. Putin now shows him how to do things. A few links to refresh your memory since it seems to have faded out.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/08/27/obama-declares-war-on-syria/

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>At no point was Obama gung ho for an invasion.  If he had been he would have done it

Sometimes I wonder if you are playing dumb for sympathy. Obumble asked congress to authorize war, it did not. He threatened to go in anyway, said he has a pen and a phone. He did it half assed and it sputtered out as we have seen. Putin now shows him how to do things. A few links to refresh your memory since it seems to have faded out.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/08/27/obama-declares-war-on-syria/

Here is where he made the false claim that assad used chem weapons as an excuse for war

http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/30/world/europe/syria-civil-war/index.html





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Since you can't refute anything I say, you go straight to the personal attack. Just like a lib. They think name calling is a good way to debate things.


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Since you can't refute anything I say, you go straight to the personal attack. Just like a lib. They think name calling is a good way to debate things.



You didn't refute what I said, you just went straight for the personal attack calling me a lib! Exactly what a zionist/obama shill would do. Lol you're a good one though I'll give you that but I don't think you're fooling anyone here anymore.


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>At no point was Obama gung ho for an invasion.  If he had been he would have done it

Sometimes I wonder if you are playing dumb for sympathy. Obumble asked congress to authorize war, it did not. He threatened to go in anyway, said he has a pen and a phone. He did it half assed and it sputtered out as we have seen. Putin now shows him how to do things. A few links to refresh your memory since it seems to have faded out.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/08/27/obama-declares-war-on-syria/

Here is where he made the false claim that assad used chem weapons as an excuse for war

http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/30/world/europe/syria-civil-war/index.html



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    #22428593 - 10/24/15 06:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

To get back on the topic of Hillary

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‘We’ve seen the heavy assault on our post in Benghazi that took the lives of those brave men. We’ve seen rage and violence directed at American embassies over an awful Internet video that we had nothing to do with.” Those words, depraved words, were spoken by then–secretary of state Hillary Clinton, with President Obama by her side, on September 14, 2012. This was at Joint Base Andrews, during the most sacred of rites: the return of the remains of Sean Smith, Glen Doherty, Tyrone Woods, and Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens, all slain in the line of duty in Benghazi. And all slain, it must never be forgotten, by jihadists carrying out what Clinton, Obama, and high-ranking national-security officials throughout the United States government knew full well was a planned terrorist attack, not a “protest” run amok and incited by “an awful Internet video.”

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Besides all that, we now know that, while the siege ensued, Clinton emailed daughter Chelsea to explain that Americans had been killed in Benghazi by “an al Qaeda-like group.” This was about an hour before Clinton and Obama consulted by phone, immediately after which the State Department published Clinton’s mendacious “blame the video” announcement:

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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22428718 - 10/24/15 06:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

>What did he do about it?  He didn't do dick.

He kept the afghan war going, kept Iraq going even after shrub negotiated the pullout. He bombed Syria, trained and sent in troops. We all know he was incompetent at it, that's not the point. The point is he started many wars and kept other going and burned through some $8T of taxpayers money in the process.


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    #22428898 - 10/24/15 07:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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>What did he do about it?  He didn't do dick.

He kept the afghan war going, kept Iraq going even after shrub negotiated the pullout. He bombed Syria, trained and sent in troops. We all know he was incompetent at it, that's not the point. The point is he started many wars and kept other going and burned through some $8T of taxpayers money in the process.



He keep the Afgham War going by npt responding properly to conditions on the ground.  Afghanistan was better off before he took office.  Because all ofoour enemies know he is a pussy.

http://time.com/3393843/isil-isis-iraq-syria-barack-obama/

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Obama Rules Out U.S. Troops in Iraq, Syria




Now we have about 3,000 "trainers"in Iraq which I believe has always been there.  We never should have left.  Our abdication emboldened these nutjobs.  And as far I know we have never had any troops in Syria.

And let me remind you that Karzai is not the president of Afghanistan.

He didn't start Syria or Libya.  Syria began as a domestic abortion and France did Libya.  His withdrawals and weakness have helped facilitate a great deal of mayhem.  He's got a big mouth.  Look what he encouraged in Egypt.

http://www.westernjournalism.com/us-public-ready-send-ground-troops-battle-isis/

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You won’t hear this in the Leftist media—for the first time, the American people support sending ground troops back into the Middle East to confront the threat from ISIS. According to a new poll by CBS News, 65 percent of Americans see ISIS as a major threat, up from 58 percent.






8 trillion dollars?:lolsy:

Now can you stop derailing this thread with your nonsense fantasies?  This thread is about Hillary.  I don't believe we are in the Off-Topic Discussion forum.


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22431006 - 10/25/15 09:04 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Your fantasies are on display in this thread.

>Now we have about 3,000 "trainers"in Iraq which I believe has always been there.  We never should have left.

Its not our job to occupy or police Iraq. Get that nutty idea out of your head. We never should have gone in.

>Karzai is not the president of Afghanistan

I never said he was. Where did you get that delusion? He does however call the shots more or less and he is bleeding usa dry with his demands. I suppose you want us in there forever too?

>He didn't start Syria or Libya

You are consistent in your wrong headedness. We had no reason to interfere in Syria and Libya is 90% our doing. Most of us are sane enough to know we can't be the world cop and go around changing regimes we don't like and occupying other lands endlessly.


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22431029 - 10/25/15 09:10 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I'd go with Hillary over Dr. Ben Nutjob Carson any day.


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Dark_Star]
    #22431109 - 10/25/15 09:43 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Why is he a nutjob? Just because he is religious? You would rather have another corporate sellout in the white house? Why? She represents big business and also foreign countries, the big donors to her campaign. She is not going to represent you or any of us.


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    #22431133 - 10/25/15 09:50 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah. He's gonna step up the war on drugs, doesn't understand the constitution, is a religious nutter. Fuck that. I'll take a corporate sellout over some asshole that will undo all of the social progress we've made over the years. Social progress trumps fiscal conservatism as far as I'm concerned. I don't want my kids to grow up in a country where you go to jail over a substance that someone disagrees with. I don't want my kids growing up where gay/lesbian folks can't get married. I don't want my kids growing up in a country where christian law prevails. Fuck that, and fuck Dr. Ben. Besides, he has no experience.


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    #22431174 - 10/25/15 10:04 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I don't know his policies so I can't say but stepping up the wod does not sound good. However, that is what we have under obumble. What difference does it make what speeches and promises they make if they turn around and all do the same thing?


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    #22431210 - 10/25/15 10:16 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Well you oughta look into the policies of these assholes running before you cast your lot with them. Obama lied, but it could've been worse. His admin hasn't fucked with the recreational states. Carson says that he will. I don't really like anyone running from either side. My MO is write in none of the above, but I can't take the risk of Carson, trump, or another Christian law republican winning & torpedoing our progress. I get the whole fiscally conservative thing....but I'm socially liberal, and the repubs running reflect the polar opposite. They may be against big government money wise, but they're all about their noses in our personal business. Nope. They can fuck off with that shit.


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Dark_Star]
    #22431293 - 10/25/15 10:42 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Clearly you know nothing about Trump. Trump is fiscally conservative and socially liberal.


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    #22431342 - 10/25/15 10:57 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

He used to be. Doesn't seem like it anymore. He's also far too abrasive. He wouldn't last 5 minutes on the world stage without pissing people off. And how many times did he declare bankruptcy?


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    #22431409 - 10/25/15 11:12 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Yeah. He's gonna step up the war on drugs, doesn't understand the constitution, is a religious nutter. Fuck that. I'll take a corporate sellout over some asshole that will undo all of the social progress we've made over the years. Social progress trumps fiscal conservatism as far as I'm concerned. I don't want my kids to grow up in a country where you go to jail over a substance that someone disagrees with. I don't want my kids growing up where gay/lesbian folks can't get married. I don't want my kids growing up in a country where christian law prevails. Fuck that, and fuck Dr. Ben. Besides, he has no experience.




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    #22431428 - 10/25/15 11:18 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

>Obama lied, but it could've been worse. His admin hasn't fucked with the recreational states.

Wrong, he has fucked with the states as much as he could despite saying the opposite. You should check your facts before you speak. I never said carson was my first choice but he would be better than obumble or the bitch.


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    #22431452 - 10/25/15 11:23 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Your fantasies are on display in this thread.

>Now we have about 3,000 "trainers"in Iraq which I believe has always been there.  We never should have left.

Its not our job to occupy or police Iraq. Get that nutty idea out of your head. We never should have gone in.




Of course we should have.  Would you accept Saddam taking over Kuwait and Saudi Arabia?
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>Karzai is not the president of Afghanistan

I never said he was. Where did you get that delusion? He does however call the shots more or less and he is bleeding usa dry with his demands. I suppose you want us in there forever too?




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>He didn't start Syria or Libya

You are consistent in your wrong headedness. We had no reason to interfere in Syria and Libya is 90% our doing. Most of us are sane enough to know we can't be the world cop and go around changing regimes we don't like and occupying other lands endlessly.




Libya is almost entirely French in impetus.  We are not occupying any of those countries any more than we are occupying Germany.  I don't think you can ever cloak yourself in the mantle of "most of us".  You are about as marginalized in your beliefs as anybody I have ever communed with


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    #22431481 - 10/25/15 11:29 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Iraq and Afghanistan were completely necessary. 




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    #22431519 - 10/25/15 11:39 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

No he hasn't. He hit the medical states despite saying he wouldn't. However they've left the rec alone for the most part. Carson would sweep in with the Feds & shut it all down. Then there's the matter of him saying that a Muslim wouldn't be constitutional. What a fucking joke. I'm not an Obama fan by any means. Didn't vote for him. That said, stating that Carson would be better is one of the dumber things I've read on here lately, and that's saying something.


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    #22431526 - 10/25/15 11:41 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

:lol: seriously. Afghanistan was, for sure. But not Iraq. We fucked up royally by going to Iraq. Never even finished the job in Afghanistan because of that. Now look where we're at.....


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Quote:

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>What did he do about it?  He didn't do dick.

He kept the afghan war going, kept Iraq going even after shrub negotiated the pullout. He bombed Syria, trained and sent in troops. We all know he was incompetent at it, that's not the point. The point is he started many wars and kept other going and burned through some $8T of taxpayers money in the process.



He keep the Afgham War going by npt responding properly to conditions on the ground.  Afghanistan was better off before he took office.  Because all ofoour enemies know he is a pussy.

http://time.com/3393843/isil-isis-iraq-syria-barack-obama/

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Obama Rules Out U.S. Troops in Iraq, Syria




Now we have about 3,000 "trainers"in Iraq which I believe has always been there.  We never should have left.  Our abdication emboldened these nutjobs.  And as far I know we have never had any troops in Syria.

And let me remind you that Karzai is not the president of Afghanistan.

He didn't start Syria or Libya.  Syria began as a domestic abortion and France did Libya.  His withdrawals and weakness have helped facilitate a great deal of mayhem.  He's got a big mouth.  Look what he encouraged in Egypt.

http://www.westernjournalism.com/us-public-ready-send-ground-troops-battle-isis/

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You won’t hear this in the Leftist media—for the first time, the American people support sending ground troops back into the Middle East to confront the threat from ISIS. According to a new poll by CBS News, 65 percent of Americans see ISIS as a major threat, up from 58 percent.






8 trillion dollars?:lolsy:

Now can you stop derailing this thread with your nonsense fantasies?  This thread is about Hillary.  I don't believe we are in the Off-Topic Discussion forum.





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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Dark_Star]
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:lol: seriously. Afghanistan was, for sure. But not Iraq. We fucked up royally by going to Iraq. Never even finished the job in Afghanistan because of that. Now look where we're at.....




where exactly are we at, I'm at home, safe and cozy, not giving a shit about what's
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Iraq and Afghanistan were completely necessary. 




:lolsy:

Do you really believe half the shit that you say?




All of it.  Do you think it was OK for Saddam to invade Kuwait?  Do you think it was OK what the Taliban are doing?  Are you also a supporter of the ISIS animals?

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/e/edmundburk377528.html

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:lol: seriously. Afghanistan was, for sure. But not Iraq. We fucked up royally by going to Iraq. Never even finished the job in Afghanistan because of that. Now look where we're at.....




where exactly are we at, I'm at home, safe and cozy, not giving a shit about what's
going on in the middleeast because that pile of horse shit simply doesnt concern me



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:lol: seriously. Afghanistan was, for sure. But not Iraq. We fucked up royally by going to Iraq. Never even finished the job in Afghanistan because of that. Now look where we're at.....




where exactly are we at, I'm at home, safe and cozy, not giving a shit about what's
going on in the middleeast because that pile of horse shit simply doesnt concern me



Evil is a concern for all of humanity




they wont let me implement the necessary protocols to take care of the evil so it's not my concern


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Yeah, me either, but that doesn't mean nothing should be done at all.  Sadly, pussies are in power.


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: zappaisgod]
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I am doing something, I sitting back and letting Putin do the work


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All he is doing is trying to do is distract his population from the dreadful state of the economy by giving them some pride in their military might.  Which is pretty much all that nation of drunks has.


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All he is doing is trying to do is distract his population from the dreadful state of the economy by giving them some pride in their military might.  Which is pretty much all that nation of drunks has.





he's also blowing shit up, that's always fun

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There is that.  The thing that is fucked up about it  is that most of the crowd are fighting age males.  They left the women and children and grandparents behind.  If I were a Euroweenie asylum judge I wouldn't accept any male between the ages of 16 and 40.  I'd give them a weapon and send them back.


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He used to be. Doesn't seem like it anymore. He's also far too abrasive. He wouldn't last 5 minutes on the world stage without pissing people off. And how many times did he declare bankruptcy?



Anyone who knows anything about Trump knows that he's never filed for bankruptcy.. :lol: He's abrasive towards the right people. Would you rather have Trump negotiate and work with Russia or have Hillary give them another reset button? LOL. He would have a backbone on the world stage, unlike the corporate sell out and unlike the jelly filled shithead currently in the oval office. You should really look into his social stances.


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He used to be. Doesn't seem like it anymore. He's also far too abrasive. He wouldn't last 5 minutes on the world stage without pissing people off. And how many times did he declare bankruptcy?



Anyone who knows anything about Trump knows that he's never filed for bankruptcy.. :lol: He's abrasive towards the right people. Would you rather have Trump negotiate and work with Russia or have Hillary give them another reset button? LOL. He would have a backbone on the world stage, unlike the corporate sell out and unlike the jelly filled shithead currently in the oval office. You should really look into his social stances.



Companies he controls and hosed people into investing in have filed for bankruptcy 4 times


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Why don't you link us to the social stances you find admirable?


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Anyone who knows anything about Trump knows that he's never filed for bankruptcy.. .




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He is playing a game.


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He used to be. Doesn't seem like it anymore. He's also far too abrasive. He wouldn't last 5 minutes on the world stage without pissing people off. And how many times did he declare bankruptcy?



Anyone who knows anything about Trump knows that he's never filed for bankruptcy.. :lol: He's abrasive towards the right people. Would you rather have Trump negotiate and work with Russia or have Hillary give them another reset button? LOL. He would have a backbone on the world stage, unlike the corporate sell out and unlike the jelly filled shithead currently in the oval office. You should really look into his social stances.



Companies he controls and hosed people into investing in have filed for bankruptcy 4 times



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Anyone who knows anything about Trump knows that he's never filed for bankruptcy.. .




:lolwut:



Do you think trump is his companies?


A person is a company?

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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: zappaisgod]
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There is that.  The thing that is fucked up about it  is that most of the crowd are fighting age males.  They left the women and children and grandparents behind.  If I were a Euroweenie asylum judge I wouldn't accept any male between the ages of 16 and 40.  I'd give them a weapon and send them back.





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President Clinton?
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Anyone who knows anything about Trump knows






anyone that knows anything abut anything knows that the only reason trump has
support is because the voting public is finally saying "if we're going to vote for
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Good job repeating the same thing every mainstream media outlet has been repeating since he jumped in. Did hillbilly also win the debate? The facts tell a different story.


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    #22431836 - 10/25/15 12:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I don't know how anybody can distinguish between Trump and a corporate sell out.  He has hidden behind the corporate veil his entire career.  He is a corporation.  Several of them.  Will he divest if he gets elected?


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Webster10]
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anyone that knows anything abut anything knows that the only reason trump has
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Good job repeating the same thing every mainstream media outlet has been repeating since he jumped in. Did hillbilly also win the debate? The facts tell a different story.





know who hillary's biggest supporters are? the major media outlets, mostly
time-warner, the folks that own the Clinton News Network, remember back
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I don't know how anybody can distinguish between Trump and a corporate sell out.  He has hidden behind the corporate veil his entire career.  He is a corporation.  Several of them.  Will he divest if he gets elected?





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Anyone who knows anything about Trump knows






anyone that knows anything abut anything knows that the only reason trump has
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a clown then we're voting for a real clown"



Good job repeating the same thing every mainstream media outlet has been repeating since he jumped in. Did hillbilly also win the debate? The facts tell a different story.





know who hillary's biggest supporters are? the major media outlets, mostly
time-warner, the folks that own the Clinton News Network, remember back
in the 90s when CNN said that billary cannot do any wrong. it hasnt changed



That's kind of what I was referring to. Just like trump cannot do right.


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I don't know how anybody can distinguish between Trump and a corporate sell out.  He has hidden behind the corporate veil his entire career.  He is a corporation.  Several of them.  Will he divest if he gets elected?



I'd rather elect someone who hides behind their own corporate veil and makes their own decisions rather than someone who hides behind their donors' and has their donors make their decisions for them.


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and none of that stops trump from being a clown


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None of it stops sensible voters from supporting a sensible candidate.


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Webster10]
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A sensible candidate?

:lolwut:

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Who would be better?


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Marco Rubio, Rand Paul, hell even Jeb.


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I don't know how anybody can distinguish between Trump and a corporate sell out.  He has hidden behind the corporate veil his entire career.  He is a corporation.  Several of them.  Will he divest if he gets elected?



I'd rather elect someone who hides behind their own corporate veil and makes their own decisions rather than someone who hides behind their donors' and has their donors make their decisions for them.




So you would prefer that somebody who already has a vested interest retain that vested interest while in office?  Donors do not make the decisions.  They get influence.  They back candidates who they think will be in their best interests.  Whose interests do you think Pumpkinhead will make decisions for.


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A severed foot.  The man is a scumbag flim flam man.  Always has been.


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Who would be better?




Marco Rubio, Rand Paul, hell even Jeb.



Rubio is a sellout, he is owned practically by one billionaire. Look up his relationship with Norman braman. Paul had high hopes but turned out to be a hot-headed screw up. Jeb is BUSH III. I hope I don't have to explain why that's worse than Trump.


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And how many billionaires is Trump owned by?  One.  Do you really think he gives a fuck about you?


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Who would be better?




Marco Rubio, Rand Paul, hell even Jeb.



Rubio is a sellout, he is owned practically by one billionaire. Look up his relationship with Norman braman. Paul had high hopes but turned out to be a hot-headed screw up. Jeb is BUSH III. I hope I don't have to explain why that's worse than Trump.





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And how many billionaires is Trump owned by?  One.  Do you really think he gives a fuck about you?



He is owned by myself? Uhm, nice observation? No, but he cares about the poor, exemplified by his 0% income tax on the lowest earners. That and him not being a dog on a leash to donors is enough to get my vote.


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And how many billionaires is Trump owned by?  One.  Do you really think he gives a fuck about you?



He is owned by myself? Uhm, nice observation? No, but he cares about the poor, exemplified by his 0% income tax on the lowest earners. That and him not being a dog on a leash to donors is enough to get my vote.





just because he says he's refusing donations doesnt mean he's not the same sort of
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And how many billionaires is Trump owned by?  One.  Do you really think he gives a fuck about you?



He is owned by myself? Uhm, nice observation? No, but he cares about the poor, exemplified by his 0% income tax on the lowest earners. That and him not being a dog on a leash to donors is enough to get my vote.



You're a billionaire?  The lowest earners already have zero income tax.  Let me guess, you are one of them.  It isn't up to the president anyway.  He is the donor leash holder, sucker.

He also made a major faux pas.  He coordinated with PACs.  That is against the law

http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/national/donald-trump-calls-on-super-pacs-supporting-his-bid-to-return-money/2251001

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"I am self-funding my campaign and therefore I will not be controlled by the donors, special interests and lobbyists who have corrupted our politics and politicians for far too long," Trump said in a statement announcing the effort. "I have disavowed all super PAC's, requested the return of all donations made to said PAC's, and I am calling on all Presidential candidates to do the same."






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me
>>We never should have gone in.

zap
>Of course we should have.  Would you accept Saddam taking over Kuwait and Saudi Arabia?

He was already pushed out of Kuwait, there was never any reason to go further. Bush sr did the right thing, did the job and got out. Saudi Arabia was in no danger. Where do you come up with these fantasies?

>Karzai is not the president of Afghanistan

Actually, he is. You are wrong about that along with everything else.

>Libya is almost entirely French in impetus.

More nonsense, it was the usa who pushed it. We need to mind our own business a lot more.


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Ashraf Ghani is the President of Afghanistan  :cookiemonster:


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And how many billionaires is Trump owned by?  One.  Do you really think he gives a fuck about you?



He is owned by myself? Uhm, nice observation? No, but he cares about the poor, exemplified by his 0% income tax on the lowest earners. That and him not being a dog on a leash to donors is enough to get my vote.



You're a billionaire?  The lowest earners already have zero income tax.  Let me guess, you are one of them.






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me
>>We never should have gone in.

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>Of course we should have.  Would you accept Saddam taking over Kuwait and Saudi Arabia?

He was already pushed out of Kuwait, there was never any reason to go further. Bush sr did the right thing, did the job and got out. Saudi Arabia was in no danger. Where do you come up with these fantasies?




And he was under contract to perform certain acts as a result.  He failed to comply.  Either you enforce contracts or you have no contracts.  Bush Sr and a large part of the rest of the world going in was a positive but they did not do the right thing by finishing the job then and there.
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>Karzai is not the president of Afghanistan

Actually, he is. You are wrong about that along with everything else.




Mohammad Ashraf Ghani,
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>Libya is almost entirely French in impetus.

More nonsense, it was the usa who pushed it. We need to mind our own business a lot more.




http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nathan-gardels/behind-the-scenes-of-the_b_840946.html

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    #22432371 - 10/25/15 03:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Ok was, the president, still is the dictator which is what I said originally. Zap is so thrilled about being right about something he can't get over it.

It still was a stupid move going into Afghanistan, but zap agrees with obumble about that. Stupid invading Iraq, bombing Syrian and arming al quaida/ isis, also stupid giving cluster bombs to Saudi Arabia who promptly used them on civilians breaking usa law. Obumble doesn't care neither does zap. As long as arabs and brown people get killed, its worth every dime.


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    #22432383 - 10/25/15 03:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Ok was, the president, still is the dictator which is what I said originally. Zap is so thrilled about being right about something he can't get over it.

It still was a stupid move going into Afghanistan, but zap agrees with obumble about that. Stupid invading Iraq, bombing Syrian and arming al quaida/ isis, also stupid giving cluster bombs to Saudi Arabia who promptly used them on civilians breaking usa law. Obumble doesn't care neither does zap. As long as arabs and brown people get killed, its worth every dime.




he resigned as the president, he's no longer in power, Ashraf Ghani is the current 'president'


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He is still the power broker and if you think otherwise you probably thought putin was out of power when he left the presidency.


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    #22432519 - 10/25/15 04:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I never thought Putin was out of power.  KGB through and through and they have always ruled the Soviet cough cough Russia since.  Do you like the KGB?  But Karzai is neither president or dictator and I have not seen enough of this guy to decide whether he is a Karzai puppet or not.  And neither have you.  As is per your wont you are just blowing smoke out of your ass.


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Who would be better?




Marco Rubio, Rand Paul, hell even Jeb.



Rubio is a sellout, he is owned practically by one billionaire. Look up his relationship with Norman braman. Paul had high hopes but turned out to be a hot-headed screw up. Jeb is BUSH III. I hope I don't have to explain why that's worse than Trump.




Every one of those options is better than Trump.

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If I'm going to have a president controlled by a billionaire, I want the billionaire himself so we can examine his views. Zap has no credible alternative yet knocks the only chance to stop hitlery. Are you taking money from the libs now, zap?


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    #22432635 - 10/25/15 04:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

If he gets the nomination it will be a coronation for whoever the Dems put up.  He is a scumbag who doesn't give a fuck about anybody else but himself and his.


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If I'm going to have a president controlled by a billionaire,


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If I'm going to have a president controlled by a billionaire, I want the billionaire himself so we can examine his views. Zap has no credible alternative yet knocks the only chance to stop hitlery. Are you taking money from the libs now, zap?




There are several credible alternatives.


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    #22432659 - 10/25/15 04:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

What a mockery of politics. I can't wrap my head around how anyone can seriously suggest him as a candidate.


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Ain't that the truth. Is Howie Mandel going to be in the next race?


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    #22432675 - 10/25/15 04:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I'd take him over Trump.


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    #22432723 - 10/25/15 04:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Lets hear the names of the other good candidates? There are none. I was thinking carson might have been ok but after hearing he is a drug war fanatic, scratch that. Its amazing how many people pick leaders based on personality and promises and totally ignore experience and ability. That's how we ended up with the dirtbag we have now, no experience and the promises were lies.

I didn't like trump when I heard he was running but I put that aside to listen to what he said. He is an honest man which what we need.


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    #22432736 - 10/25/15 04:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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If I'm going to have a president controlled by a billionaire, I want the billionaire himself so we can examine his views. Zap has no credible alternative yet knocks the only chance to stop hitlery. Are you taking money from the libs now, zap?



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    #22432757 - 10/25/15 04:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Which is my main point against him, he might promise everyone the absolute best during the race but hasn't every single politician before him done the same. Is the American populace really that stupid that they still by into this shit?


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    #22432777 - 10/25/15 05:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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He is still the power broker and if you think otherwise you probably thought putin was out of power when he left the presidency.





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Lets hear the names of the other good candidates? There are none. I was thinking carson might have been ok but after hearing he is a drug war fanatic, scratch that. Its amazing how many people pick leaders based on personality and promises and totally ignore experience and ability. That's how we ended up with the dirtbag we have now, no experience and the promises were lies.

I didn't like trump when I heard he was running but I put that aside to listen to what he said. He is an honest man which what we need.



Other good candidates?  That presumes that the serial bankrupt buffoon is himself a good candidate.  He is not an honest man he is a finagling litigious cunt who has hid his whole career behind a  code of bankruptcy law that protects rich cunts and does nothing for the poor and middle class. 

I asked before for his position on social issues that either you or Webster mentioned.  Still haven't seen a reply. 

Here's Hump on strength

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TRUMP: We are living in an unbelievably horrible world, which is why I want to build up the military because we need it now more than ever before.

JAKE TAPPER: What is the Trump doctrine? …


TRUMP: The Trump doctrine is very simple. It’s strength. It’s strength. Nobody’s going to mess with us. Our military is going to be made much stronger.




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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22433148 - 10/25/15 06:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Did zappy learn another new word?

He has never gone bankrupt and it wouldn't matter if he did. Its kind of pathetic that you only have that and your baseless claims that he is some sort of crook. When pressed on that issue you always come back to the bankruptcies. That's all you've got.

Too bad we can't see your record.

You don't want the usa to be strong? What kind of nutty reasoning is that? I know your lame answer will be that we are already strong, not as strong as when obumble took over. He is the perfect candidate. You don't even have one, or is it that nut case Huckabee still? He is polling about 3% same as you.


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    #22433168 - 10/25/15 06:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

If we follow your doctrine that mandates we never do anything with it, which has been your position about everything we have done in your lifetime, what would be the point?  To destroy Israel? 

Listen up.  We already have the strongest military in history.  What the fuck is Hump talking about?  Maybe one of his fanboys can explain.


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    #22433183 - 10/25/15 06:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You want to know what we should do with our military? How about using it to protect the homeland and leave alone those poor arabs you hate so much. You are some kind of radical chicken hawk who wants our servicemen shot up so you can get your jollies watching it on tv.


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    #22433202 - 10/25/15 06:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Protect it how?  You want F-18s strafing the border?  Station carriers and submarines tightly around the coast?  The 9/11 attacks were launched from Afghanistan by a known wanted lunatic the Taliban gave sanctuary too.

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    #22433229 - 10/25/15 06:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Afghanistan was actively trying to rid itself of them in the years leading up to 9/11. They were at some of the final stages of crippling their hold on power before the attack. Either way the afghani  people had absolutely nothing to do with it. Attacking them in retaliation is a cowardly thing to do.


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Afghanistan was actively trying to rid itself of them in the years leading up to 9/11. They were at some of the final stages of crippling their hold on power before the attack. Either way the afghani  people had absolutely nothing to do with it. Attacking them in retaliation is a cowardly thing to do.





The Taliban totally ran the show.  Let me remind you that the Taliban are Afghani people.  The had defeated their opposition rather viciously and they were in complete control


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Protect it how?  You want F-18s strafing the border?  Station carriers and submarines tightly around the coast?  The 9/11 attacks were launched from Afghanistan by a known wanted lunatic the Taliban gave sanctuary too.

By the way, the Taliban are not Arabs.




Lol, I love the way you always go nuts when something hits home. :laugh:

"strafing the border" what kind of loony talk is that? You believe the official story that it was bin laden behind 9-11? Saudi Arabia couldn't have been involved could they? Or your favorite parasite country? There is ample evidence for both of those.

>Taliban are not Arabs

I didn't say they were. How did you arrive at Taliban? Oh btw, Russians are not Chinese.

Bodhi, you are correct!


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: zappaisgod]
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
Afghanistan was actively trying to rid itself of them in the years leading up to 9/11. They were at some of the final stages of crippling their hold on power before the attack. Either way the afghani  people had absolutely nothing to do with it. Attacking them in retaliation is a cowardly thing to do.





The Taliban totally ran the show.  Let me remind you that the Taliban are Afghani people.  The had defeated their opposition rather viciously and they were in complete control




A small minority, which as far as I've been able to find was a criminal element that was mainly in the rural undeveloped areas of afghanistan. If you could convince me otherwise please do.


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