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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22432123 - 10/25/15 02:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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And how many billionaires is Trump owned by?  One.  Do you really think he gives a fuck about you?



He is owned by myself? Uhm, nice observation? No, but he cares about the poor, exemplified by his 0% income tax on the lowest earners. That and him not being a dog on a leash to donors is enough to get my vote.


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Webster10]
    #22432136 - 10/25/15 02:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Webster10 said:
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zappaisgod said:
And how many billionaires is Trump owned by?  One.  Do you really think he gives a fuck about you?



He is owned by myself? Uhm, nice observation? No, but he cares about the poor, exemplified by his 0% income tax on the lowest earners. That and him not being a dog on a leash to donors is enough to get my vote.





just because he says he's refusing donations doesnt mean he's not the same sort of
purchased politician that the rest are, trump is the same sort of big business,
fuck the little man dickhead as anyone else on the stage


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Webster10]
    #22432154 - 10/25/15 02:29 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Webster10 said:
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zappaisgod said:
And how many billionaires is Trump owned by?  One.  Do you really think he gives a fuck about you?



He is owned by myself? Uhm, nice observation? No, but he cares about the poor, exemplified by his 0% income tax on the lowest earners. That and him not being a dog on a leash to donors is enough to get my vote.



You're a billionaire?  The lowest earners already have zero income tax.  Let me guess, you are one of them.  It isn't up to the president anyway.  He is the donor leash holder, sucker.

He also made a major faux pas.  He coordinated with PACs.  That is against the law

http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/national/donald-trump-calls-on-super-pacs-supporting-his-bid-to-return-money/2251001

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"I am self-funding my campaign and therefore I will not be controlled by the donors, special interests and lobbyists who have corrupted our politics and politicians for far too long," Trump said in a statement announcing the effort. "I have disavowed all super PAC's, requested the return of all donations made to said PAC's, and I am calling on all Presidential candidates to do the same."






So you prefer that only one uber rich donor control the office.  :flowstone:


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22432155 - 10/25/15 02:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

me
>>We never should have gone in.

zap
>Of course we should have.  Would you accept Saddam taking over Kuwait and Saudi Arabia?

He was already pushed out of Kuwait, there was never any reason to go further. Bush sr did the right thing, did the job and got out. Saudi Arabia was in no danger. Where do you come up with these fantasies?

>Karzai is not the president of Afghanistan

Actually, he is. You are wrong about that along with everything else.

>Libya is almost entirely French in impetus.

More nonsense, it was the usa who pushed it. We need to mind our own business a lot more.


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Webster10]
    #22432158 - 10/25/15 02:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Why don't you link us to the social stances you find admirable?




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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22432162 - 10/25/15 02:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Ashraf Ghani is the President of Afghanistan  :cookiemonster:


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22432184 - 10/25/15 02:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
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Webster10 said:
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zappaisgod said:
And how many billionaires is Trump owned by?  One.  Do you really think he gives a fuck about you?



He is owned by myself? Uhm, nice observation? No, but he cares about the poor, exemplified by his 0% income tax on the lowest earners. That and him not being a dog on a leash to donors is enough to get my vote.



You're a billionaire?  The lowest earners already have zero income tax.  Let me guess, you are one of them.






actually the lowest earners get more back then they put in, they take around
$2000 per year from me in total taxes including social security and medicaid
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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22432188 - 10/25/15 02:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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me
>>We never should have gone in.

zap
>Of course we should have.  Would you accept Saddam taking over Kuwait and Saudi Arabia?

He was already pushed out of Kuwait, there was never any reason to go further. Bush sr did the right thing, did the job and got out. Saudi Arabia was in no danger. Where do you come up with these fantasies?




And he was under contract to perform certain acts as a result.  He failed to comply.  Either you enforce contracts or you have no contracts.  Bush Sr and a large part of the rest of the world going in was a positive but they did not do the right thing by finishing the job then and there.
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>Karzai is not the president of Afghanistan

Actually, he is. You are wrong about that along with everything else.




Mohammad Ashraf Ghani,
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>Libya is almost entirely French in impetus.

More nonsense, it was the usa who pushed it. We need to mind our own business a lot more.




http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nathan-gardels/behind-the-scenes-of-the_b_840946.html

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Behind the Scenes of the French Lead on Libya




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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22432199 - 10/25/15 02:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22432371 - 10/25/15 03:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Ok was, the president, still is the dictator which is what I said originally. Zap is so thrilled about being right about something he can't get over it.

It still was a stupid move going into Afghanistan, but zap agrees with obumble about that. Stupid invading Iraq, bombing Syrian and arming al quaida/ isis, also stupid giving cluster bombs to Saudi Arabia who promptly used them on civilians breaking usa law. Obumble doesn't care neither does zap. As long as arabs and brown people get killed, its worth every dime.


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22432383 - 10/25/15 03:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Ok was, the president, still is the dictator which is what I said originally. Zap is so thrilled about being right about something he can't get over it.

It still was a stupid move going into Afghanistan, but zap agrees with obumble about that. Stupid invading Iraq, bombing Syrian and arming al quaida/ isis, also stupid giving cluster bombs to Saudi Arabia who promptly used them on civilians breaking usa law. Obumble doesn't care neither does zap. As long as arabs and brown people get killed, its worth every dime.




he resigned as the president, he's no longer in power, Ashraf Ghani is the current 'president'


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22432399 - 10/25/15 03:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

He is still the power broker and if you think otherwise you probably thought putin was out of power when he left the presidency.


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Stonehenge] * 1
    #22432519 - 10/25/15 04:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I never thought Putin was out of power.  KGB through and through and they have always ruled the Soviet cough cough Russia since.  Do you like the KGB?  But Karzai is neither president or dictator and I have not seen enough of this guy to decide whether he is a Karzai puppet or not.  And neither have you.  As is per your wont you are just blowing smoke out of your ass.


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Webster10]
    #22432534 - 10/25/15 04:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Who would be better?




Marco Rubio, Rand Paul, hell even Jeb.



Rubio is a sellout, he is owned practically by one billionaire. Look up his relationship with Norman braman. Paul had high hopes but turned out to be a hot-headed screw up. Jeb is BUSH III. I hope I don't have to explain why that's worse than Trump.




Every one of those options is better than Trump.

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Rubio is a sellout, he is owned practically by one billionaire.




How is that any different than Trump?


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #22432632 - 10/25/15 04:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

If I'm going to have a president controlled by a billionaire, I want the billionaire himself so we can examine his views. Zap has no credible alternative yet knocks the only chance to stop hitlery. Are you taking money from the libs now, zap?


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22432635 - 10/25/15 04:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

If he gets the nomination it will be a coronation for whoever the Dems put up.  He is a scumbag who doesn't give a fuck about anybody else but himself and his.


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22432639 - 10/25/15 04:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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If I'm going to have a president controlled by a billionaire,


By the way this is an idiotic take on political donations




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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22432652 - 10/25/15 04:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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If I'm going to have a president controlled by a billionaire, I want the billionaire himself so we can examine his views. Zap has no credible alternative yet knocks the only chance to stop hitlery. Are you taking money from the libs now, zap?




There are several credible alternatives.


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22432659 - 10/25/15 04:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

What a mockery of politics. I can't wrap my head around how anyone can seriously suggest him as a candidate.


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #22432670 - 10/25/15 04:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Ain't that the truth. Is Howie Mandel going to be in the next race?


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