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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: twighead]
    #22426974 - 10/24/15 12:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Since you can't refute anything I say, you go straight to the personal attack. Just like a lib. They think name calling is a good way to debate things.


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22427034 - 10/24/15 12:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Mad_Larkin]
    #22427071 - 10/24/15 12:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)




























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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Salomon] * 2
    #22427213 - 10/24/15 01:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Since you can't refute anything I say, you go straight to the personal attack. Just like a lib. They think name calling is a good way to debate things.



You didn't refute what I said, you just went straight for the personal attack calling me a lib! Exactly what a zionist/obama shill would do. Lol you're a good one though I'll give you that but I don't think you're fooling anyone here anymore.


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22428573 - 10/24/15 06:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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>At no point was Obama gung ho for an invasion.  If he had been he would have done it

Sometimes I wonder if you are playing dumb for sympathy. Obumble asked congress to authorize war, it did not. He threatened to go in anyway, said he has a pen and a phone. He did it half assed and it sputtered out as we have seen. Putin now shows him how to do things. A few links to refresh your memory since it seems to have faded out.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/08/27/obama-declares-war-on-syria/

Here is where he made the false claim that assad used chem weapons as an excuse for war

http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/30/world/europe/syria-civil-war/index.html



Yeah I know all that.  What did he do about it?  He didn't do dick.


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #22428593 - 10/24/15 06:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

To get back on the topic of Hillary

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/426019/hillary-clinton-benghazi-liar




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‘We’ve seen the heavy assault on our post in Benghazi that took the lives of those brave men. We’ve seen rage and violence directed at American embassies over an awful Internet video that we had nothing to do with.” Those words, depraved words, were spoken by then–secretary of state Hillary Clinton, with President Obama by her side, on September 14, 2012. This was at Joint Base Andrews, during the most sacred of rites: the return of the remains of Sean Smith, Glen Doherty, Tyrone Woods, and Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens, all slain in the line of duty in Benghazi. And all slain, it must never be forgotten, by jihadists carrying out what Clinton, Obama, and high-ranking national-security officials throughout the United States government knew full well was a planned terrorist attack, not a “protest” run amok and incited by “an awful Internet video.”

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Besides all that, we now know that, while the siege ensued, Clinton emailed daughter Chelsea to explain that Americans had been killed in Benghazi by “an al Qaeda-like group.” This was about an hour before Clinton and Obama consulted by phone, immediately after which the State Department published Clinton’s mendacious “blame the video” announcement:

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Administration officials knew there would be trouble on the eleventh anniversary of 9/11. They also knew that, if the trouble was perceived as the foreseeable fallout of their Islamist empowerment policy, it could mortally damage Obama’s 2012 reelection bid and Clinton’s 2016 election ambitions.







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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22428718 - 10/24/15 06:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

>What did he do about it?  He didn't do dick.

He kept the afghan war going, kept Iraq going even after shrub negotiated the pullout. He bombed Syria, trained and sent in troops. We all know he was incompetent at it, that's not the point. The point is he started many wars and kept other going and burned through some $8T of taxpayers money in the process.


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Stonehenge] * 3
    #22428722 - 10/24/15 06:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

spoken like a true Zionist shill


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22428898 - 10/24/15 07:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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>What did he do about it?  He didn't do dick.

He kept the afghan war going, kept Iraq going even after shrub negotiated the pullout. He bombed Syria, trained and sent in troops. We all know he was incompetent at it, that's not the point. The point is he started many wars and kept other going and burned through some $8T of taxpayers money in the process.



He keep the Afgham War going by npt responding properly to conditions on the ground.  Afghanistan was better off before he took office.  Because all ofoour enemies know he is a pussy.

http://time.com/3393843/isil-isis-iraq-syria-barack-obama/

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Obama Rules Out U.S. Troops in Iraq, Syria




Now we have about 3,000 "trainers"in Iraq which I believe has always been there.  We never should have left.  Our abdication emboldened these nutjobs.  And as far I know we have never had any troops in Syria.

And let me remind you that Karzai is not the president of Afghanistan.

He didn't start Syria or Libya.  Syria began as a domestic abortion and France did Libya.  His withdrawals and weakness have helped facilitate a great deal of mayhem.  He's got a big mouth.  Look what he encouraged in Egypt.

http://www.westernjournalism.com/us-public-ready-send-ground-troops-battle-isis/

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You won’t hear this in the Leftist media—for the first time, the American people support sending ground troops back into the Middle East to confront the threat from ISIS. According to a new poll by CBS News, 65 percent of Americans see ISIS as a major threat, up from 58 percent.






8 trillion dollars?:lolsy:

Now can you stop derailing this thread with your nonsense fantasies?  This thread is about Hillary.  I don't believe we are in the Off-Topic Discussion forum.


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22431006 - 10/25/15 09:04 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Your fantasies are on display in this thread.

>Now we have about 3,000 "trainers"in Iraq which I believe has always been there.  We never should have left.

Its not our job to occupy or police Iraq. Get that nutty idea out of your head. We never should have gone in.

>Karzai is not the president of Afghanistan

I never said he was. Where did you get that delusion? He does however call the shots more or less and he is bleeding usa dry with his demands. I suppose you want us in there forever too?

>He didn't start Syria or Libya

You are consistent in your wrong headedness. We had no reason to interfere in Syria and Libya is 90% our doing. Most of us are sane enough to know we can't be the world cop and go around changing regimes we don't like and occupying other lands endlessly.


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22431029 - 10/25/15 09:10 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I'd go with Hillary over Dr. Ben Nutjob Carson any day.


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Dark_Star]
    #22431109 - 10/25/15 09:43 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Why is he a nutjob? Just because he is religious? You would rather have another corporate sellout in the white house? Why? She represents big business and also foreign countries, the big donors to her campaign. She is not going to represent you or any of us.


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22431133 - 10/25/15 09:50 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah. He's gonna step up the war on drugs, doesn't understand the constitution, is a religious nutter. Fuck that. I'll take a corporate sellout over some asshole that will undo all of the social progress we've made over the years. Social progress trumps fiscal conservatism as far as I'm concerned. I don't want my kids to grow up in a country where you go to jail over a substance that someone disagrees with. I don't want my kids growing up where gay/lesbian folks can't get married. I don't want my kids growing up in a country where christian law prevails. Fuck that, and fuck Dr. Ben. Besides, he has no experience.


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Dark_Star]
    #22431174 - 10/25/15 10:04 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I don't know his policies so I can't say but stepping up the wod does not sound good. However, that is what we have under obumble. What difference does it make what speeches and promises they make if they turn around and all do the same thing?


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22431210 - 10/25/15 10:16 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Well you oughta look into the policies of these assholes running before you cast your lot with them. Obama lied, but it could've been worse. His admin hasn't fucked with the recreational states. Carson says that he will. I don't really like anyone running from either side. My MO is write in none of the above, but I can't take the risk of Carson, trump, or another Christian law republican winning & torpedoing our progress. I get the whole fiscally conservative thing....but I'm socially liberal, and the repubs running reflect the polar opposite. They may be against big government money wise, but they're all about their noses in our personal business. Nope. They can fuck off with that shit.


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Dark_Star]
    #22431293 - 10/25/15 10:42 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Clearly you know nothing about Trump. Trump is fiscally conservative and socially liberal.


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Webster10]
    #22431342 - 10/25/15 10:57 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

He used to be. Doesn't seem like it anymore. He's also far too abrasive. He wouldn't last 5 minutes on the world stage without pissing people off. And how many times did he declare bankruptcy?


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Dark_Star]
    #22431409 - 10/25/15 11:12 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Yeah. He's gonna step up the war on drugs, doesn't understand the constitution, is a religious nutter. Fuck that. I'll take a corporate sellout over some asshole that will undo all of the social progress we've made over the years. Social progress trumps fiscal conservatism as far as I'm concerned. I don't want my kids to grow up in a country where you go to jail over a substance that someone disagrees with. I don't want my kids growing up where gay/lesbian folks can't get married. I don't want my kids growing up in a country where christian law prevails. Fuck that, and fuck Dr. Ben. Besides, he has no experience.




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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Dark_Star]
    #22431428 - 10/25/15 11:18 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

>Obama lied, but it could've been worse. His admin hasn't fucked with the recreational states.

Wrong, he has fucked with the states as much as he could despite saying the opposite. You should check your facts before you speak. I never said carson was my first choice but he would be better than obumble or the bitch.


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Re: President Clinton just said Libya was a success [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22431452 - 10/25/15 11:23 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Your fantasies are on display in this thread.

>Now we have about 3,000 "trainers"in Iraq which I believe has always been there.  We never should have left.

Its not our job to occupy or police Iraq. Get that nutty idea out of your head. We never should have gone in.




Of course we should have.  Would you accept Saddam taking over Kuwait and Saudi Arabia?
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>Karzai is not the president of Afghanistan

I never said he was. Where did you get that delusion? He does however call the shots more or less and he is bleeding usa dry with his demands. I suppose you want us in there forever too?




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>He didn't start Syria or Libya

You are consistent in your wrong headedness. We had no reason to interfere in Syria and Libya is 90% our doing. Most of us are sane enough to know we can't be the world cop and go around changing regimes we don't like and occupying other lands endlessly.




Libya is almost entirely French in impetus.  We are not occupying any of those countries any more than we are occupying Germany.  I don't think you can ever cloak yourself in the mantle of "most of us".  You are about as marginalized in your beliefs as anybody I have ever communed with


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