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Is it ok to give my friend a big dose for the first time if I am going to be with him. * 1
    #22416991 - 10/22/15 07:00 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I have a friend and he wants to try some magic truffles. Do you think it would be ok to get a decent dose (1 box of white diamonds 15g) for his first time because I am going to be tripping with him?


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Re: Is it ok to give my friend a big dose for the first time if I am going to be with him. [Re: Aik]
    #22417006 - 10/22/15 07:09 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I always go with Paul Stamets advice:

If you decide on a dose, take half the mushrooms, and wait an hour and a half. If you then decide you want to get higher, take the other half at that point.


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Re: Is it ok to give my friend a big dose for the first time if I am going to be with him. [Re: Asante]
    #22417011 - 10/22/15 07:11 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Just depends how well you know this guy. Some people can have some underlining problems and have a freak out. So tread lightly.


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Re: Is it ok to give my friend a big dose for the first time if I am going to be with him. [Re: Bigjonbrews]
    #22417012 - 10/22/15 07:13 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You can't know a novice enough to rule out negative reactions.

He might be highly sensitive to the drug, or have a psychologic disorder tucked away somewhere which pops out, or get HPPD.


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Re: Is it ok to give my friend a big dose for the first time if I am going to be with him. [Re: Asante]
    #22417044 - 10/22/15 07:30 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Asante said:
I always go with Paul Stamets advice:

If you decide on a dose, take half the mushrooms, and wait an hour and a half. If you then decide you want to get higher, take the other half at that point.



Yeah but that makes the trip much much weaker compared to the whole dose being taken at once


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Re: Is it ok to give my friend a big dose for the first time if I am going to be with him. [Re: Aik] * 1
    #22417065 - 10/22/15 07:41 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The biggest risk, apart from health complications, is that you give him a dose which they can't handle, they hate it and will never touch psychedelics again because they feel "its not for them".

The ideal situation is piquing their curiosity and them asking for a bit more.

Mushrooms are an acquired taste, like red pepper. If your first dose is too high you're gonna avoid it, thats how humans work.


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Re: Is it ok to give my friend a big dose for the first time if I am going to be with him. [Re: Asante]
    #22417071 - 10/22/15 07:44 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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The biggest risk, apart from health complications, is that you give him a dose which they can't handle, they hate it and will never touch psychedelics again because they feel "its not for them".

The ideal situation is piquing their curiosity and them asking for a bit more.

Mushrooms are an acquired taste, like red pepper. If your first dose is too high you're gonna avoid it, thats how humans work.




Hey... you actually can give good advice. Now, if only you'd do it on a regular basis.

Alas, that's far too much to hope for.


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Re: Is it ok to give my friend a big dose for the first time if I am going to be with him. [Re: Asante]
    #22417080 - 10/22/15 07:46 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Best to have a lighter dose and try a stronger dose in the future once they get acquainted with the experience.

They will be able to tell whether or not they want to go deeper, but you won't be able to take it back if they get too deep from taking too big a dose.


As others have said, best to take a smaller dose and take more later, or better yet I even suggest taking a lighter dose this time, then if they are wanting a stronger experience wait some time (few days, maybe weeks, months) and then take a larger dose.


Personally with most psychs I never found dosing again after the initial dose to make anything much stronger, though I'm not sure if I've ever tried it with mushrooms :shrug: . I would usually eat the whole dose at once


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Re: Is it ok to give my friend a big dose for the first time if I am going to be with him. [Re: Aik]
    #22417082 - 10/22/15 07:47 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You forget what it was like your first time.  Start them off with a low dose.  I gave a friend for her first time what I considered to be a medium dose, because at the time I was routinely taking over 10g dry doses.  She didn't have a bad trip but she never took them again.  My first time, I just had enough to get a tingle.  Out of respect for the person, start off small.  You're knee deep in the mushroom mentality at the moment, but your friend isn't.


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Re: Is it ok to give my friend a big dose for the first time if I am going to be with him. [Re: Jufin]
    #22417119 - 10/22/15 07:57 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

yeah ok. I think im just going to give half a box and then if he wants more, the other half. But what abut me? I wanted to take the same dose becasue we would feel the same thing, however half a box isnt going to be enough for me.


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Re: Is it ok to give my friend a big dose for the first time if I am going to be with him. [Re: Jufin]
    #22417144 - 10/22/15 08:07 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

On Halloween me and one buddy we're going to trip. Originally it was just going to be me and him so I grabbed a quarter asap.

This will be his first trip.

Last night my other buddy asked to join.

I told him I'd split my eighth with him and we'd lemon tek it as to maybe make it a stronger experience. Me and him have both tripped a fair amount of times so I figured I would leave my other friend the whole eighth so he could have a "full" experience.

My first time I took half an eighth and walked around a state park. It was amazing and I'm glad I didn't take any more than the half eighth.

I've never taken a dose that low since my first experience so I'm wondering if I'll have a good time :shrug: I think I will.

Anyways my first dose being a little under two grams and I was still overwhelmed on the come up, but it's a nice dose because once you start tripping everything's okay and it's not to intense. Definitely left me looking for more!


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Re: Is it ok to give my friend a big dose for the first time if I am going to be with him. [Re: Aik]
    #22417151 - 10/22/15 08:09 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I wanted to take the same dose becasue we would feel the same thing





No you wouldn't..


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Re: Is it ok to give my friend a big dose for the first time if I am going to be with him. [Re: 1234go]
    #22417258 - 10/22/15 08:52 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Ik zie het nu pas, Eindhoven :rainbowcloud:

You wouldn't feel the same thing, people who start out on psychedelics have a completely different experience than experienced users.

If you take half, you'll have less distraction from making sure he is OK :sun:

How many times have you tripped before?


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Re: Is it ok to give my friend a big dose for the first time if I am going to be with him. [Re: Asante]
    #22417270 - 10/22/15 08:57 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

About 6 or 7, my last trip was a level 4 or 5


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Re: Is it ok to give my friend a big dose for the first time if I am going to be with him. [Re: Aik]
    #22417296 - 10/22/15 09:09 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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About 6 or 7, my last trip was a level 4 or 5





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Re: Is it ok to give my friend a big dose for the first time if I am going to be with him. [Re: Aik]
    #22417326 - 10/22/15 09:17 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Be careful dosing new trippers.  You never know how they will react.  Search the forum for freakouts for examples of people losing their shit or being impossible to handle.  From my acid days, I remember dosing chill people with one hit who ended up needing to be babysat.  I can't imagine how bad it would have been if they took more the first time. Asante makes a great point about you taking less so you don't get too distracted to help keep everything cool.  BTW, no disrespect but 6 or 7 trips isn't a lot of experience.  Ever had a bad trip?


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Re: Is it ok to give my friend a big dose for the first time if I am going to be with him. [Re: Zymosis]
    #22417338 - 10/22/15 09:21 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

In case you want an example of a chill person gone bad, my friend went on a pyromaniac trip wanting to burn everything.  Hyper as all hell he lit a wheel barrow on fire and tried running out of the back yard and into the street with it.  Then he lit his own shirt on fire, asked to borrow another one, then burnt that one.  I never would have expected it and I knew this kid for years.  Be ready for anything is all I'm saying.


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Re: Is it ok to give my friend a big dose for the first time if I am going to be with him. [Re: Aik]
    #22417368 - 10/22/15 09:33 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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About 6 or 7, my last trip was a level 4 or 5





With all respect, with less than 20 trips under your belt you're a bit of a newbie yourself, best stick to half too.

I woyld consider someone an experienced tripper if he had about 20 trips, and a veteran if he had at least 100.

You spent less than one work week under the influence :grin:


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Re: Is it ok to give my friend a big dose for the first time if I am going to be with him. [Re: Asante]
    #22417664 - 10/22/15 11:01 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

let your friend decide and be the best babysitter you can


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Re: Is it ok to give my friend a big dose for the first time if I am going to be with him. [Re: shroominated]
    #22418864 - 10/22/15 03:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I've never had to do it cause I haven't had a bad trip. But valium is said to help relieve a bad trip. I usually just smoke a bunch of green. Good luck though.


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