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Re: Asshole tries to kill people on a motorcycle with his car. [Re: akira_akuma]
#22421710 - 10/23/15 07:12 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said: Arguing with Akira is pretty exhausting most of the time 
he barely even tried. plus he kept insinuating i said the bikes was going slower than the car...like i never said that dude. 
all i said was: would he be able to get ahead of the car in front enough to avoid getting in his way, ie, was he going fast enough?
No, you said he "wasn't going faster" than the car he was trying to pass, i.e. he was going the same speed or slower. Which he clearly wasn't (at least until the guy in the car tried to hit him.) If he was, the car would have remained the same or a greater distance ahead of him.
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akira_akuma said: 1: his bike, in the video, wasn't going faster than the car ahead of him, he would have had to accelerate, but being that both parties in question aren't mind-readers, the driver of the car could have sped up all the same, in essence, stopping the cyclist from making his approach.
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psi said: The biker would not have been rear-ended in the scenario you're describing, unless he slowed down in front of the car, or it accelerated towards him.
^ yeah, see, he got it but then refused to acknowledge the argument. so WHAT IF he accelerated and the bike wasn't going fast enough to avoid a collision at that point? dangerous or no?
what's more logical? staying your lane, or boosting out in front of people unexpectedly?
By the time the motorcycle was beside him, it would be pretty clear what the motorcycle rider's intentions were (to pass him.) To rear-end the bike, it would have to already be in front of him. Yes he could conceivably decide to accelerate into it at that point and hit it, just as anyone at any time could decide to accelerate towards the vehicle in front of them and rear-end it. This is not normal driving behavior however. Neither is speeding up when a passing driver is still in the oncoming lane to block them from getting back into your lane.
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Re: Asshole tries to kill people on a motorcycle with his car. [Re: psi] 6
#22421740 - 10/23/15 07:29 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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So the three conclusions that can be drawn from this thread are:
The motorcyclist, other than crossing a double solid line and possibly speeding, did absolutely nothing wrong. The pass was going smoothly and he wasn't putting anyone or anything in danger by passing. The car driver is the only one who did anything significantly wrong. He attempted to murder an innocent person, and doesn't have the self control to function normally in society. He deserves jail for life and should be ordered to forfeit 100% of his assets to the motorcyclist.
Zappa isn't the greatest at understand basic social etiquette. Zappaisgod actually believes that passing someone illegally justifies attempted murder. He clearly has an extremely poor understanding of the rules of the road. His lack of good judgement scares normal people.
Akira_akuma is totally insane. He is the same old akira who says something completely batshit crazy like, "the motorcycle and car were moving at the same speed,"(even though it's clear the motorcycle was passing the car) and thenot argue it until he's blue in the face. News flash, if two objects are moving at the same speed, it's impossible for one to pass the other.
Agreed? Agreed.
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Re: Asshole tries to kill people on a motorcycle with his car. [Re: Webster10]
#22421787 - 10/23/15 07:47 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Asshole tries to kill people on a motorcycle with his car. [Re: Anahata] 1
#22421799 - 10/23/15 07:52 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Uh, why did that guy just stand there bickering at him, wheres the vigilante justice anymore? My instinct would have been to pummel the shit out of that old fucker. That's just me though
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Re: Asshole tries to kill people on a motorcycle with his car. [Re: RobZombie68]
#22421814 - 10/23/15 07:58 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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agreed.
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Re: Asshole tries to kill people on a motorcycle with his car. [Re: akira_akuma] 1
#22422107 - 10/23/15 09:37 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: dude, i'm not taking this very seriously i hope you know. my arguments, i'm telling you, have Slothropian arcs, impossible to predict!
a: i'm not being stubborn. anything that was addressed to me that wasn't "akira pfft he's an idiot" got a response. a non-lofty one at that. see above posts in regards to Shroomslip
b: i am only wondering if there'd be enough clearance in front of the "old guy" if the cyclist had gotten in front of him, enough so to avoid slowing the old guy down in his car
and c: main argument: is it alright for bikers to have disregard for the rules of the road because they can get away with it (causing less accidents than a car or truck, because their conveyance is smaller/faster)?
my main argument shrapnelled off into a bunch of different delegations. mainly because i was having a lulzy time.
also, before any of that my reply here was pretty clear.
a: No comment.
b: Absolutely, there was enough room to safely pass without causing any hindrance to the old guy. This is why driving experience would help you with an argument.
c: No, but that is not an excuse to be maliciously ramming someone off the road and injuring an innocent passenger.
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Shroomslip said: I told you it mattered back when you asked if it did after DMT asked if you even drove.
I could tell he didn't drive by what he was saying To anyone but akira_akuma that's telling whether experience is relevant to the discussion or not.
But this is akira_akuma we're dealing with..
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Re: Ignorant Akuma [Re: D.M.T]
#22422174 - 10/23/15 09:51 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said: I told you it mattered back when you asked if it did after DMT asked if you even drove.
I could tell he didn't drive by what he was saying To anyone but akira_akuma that's telling whether experience is relevant to the discussion or not.
But this is akira_akuma we're dealing with..
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When you've edjumacated akira_akuma as long as I have you'll understand.
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How does passing someone up cause more accidents? That's retarded, people pass up other people everyday. And because of a bikes agility and maneuverability it's easy as fuck to do. What do you think the fast lane is for?
Ever heard of the autobahn? There are slow lanes and fast lanes - specifically used to pass people up.
Godamn you're dumb.
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Re: Ignorant Akuma [Re: D.M.T]
#22422361 - 10/23/15 10:28 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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D.M.T said: When you've edjumacated akira_akuma as long as I have you'll understand.
Teach me your ways
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Re: Asshole tries to kill people on a motorcycle with his car. [Re: akira_akuma]
#22422429 - 10/23/15 10:50 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: why have a motorcycle over a car? mileage? safety? no that can't be it...hmmm - oh! i know! speed & dodging in and out of traffic.
might beat those fuckers at the light and be a real badass whilst doing it.
THAT'S why a motorcycle over a car.
Actually, have you ever drove a motorcycle? They have mileage that a car couldn't even think of.
Unless you're in one of those little golf-cart lookin' smart cars
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Re: Asshole tries to kill people on a motorcycle with his car. [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
#22422438 - 10/23/15 10:54 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Plus we all know bikers get the best pussy.
But akira doesn't even drive, so I'm guessing you don't get any at all.
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Re: Ignorant Akuma [Re: D.M.T]
#22422444 - 10/23/15 10:57 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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D.M.T said: When you've edjumacated emasculated akira_akuma as long as I have you'll understand.
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Re: Asshole tries to kill people on a motorcycle with his car. [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
#22422447 - 10/23/15 10:58 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: why have a motorcycle over a car? mileage? safety? no that can't be it...hmmm - oh! i know! speed & dodging in and out of traffic.
might beat those fuckers at the light and be a real badass whilst doing it.
THAT'S why a motorcycle over a car.
Actually, have you ever drove a motorcycle? They have mileage that a car couldn't even think of.
Unless you're in one of those little golf-cart lookin' smart cars
even still.
I posted earlier, which he chose to ignore,
my 600 got like 55-50 to the gallon, and my 750 got about 45-50, on the streets.
and those were sport bikes, which I wasn't riding economically.
the mileage is insane.
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Re: Asshole tries to kill people on a motorcycle with his car. [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
#22422694 - 10/23/15 12:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Indeed it is.
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Re: Asshole tries to kill people on a motorcycle with his car. [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
#22422746 - 10/23/15 12:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mr.PhilCybin said:
I posted earlier, which he chose to ignore,
i didn't ignore it. it wasn't relevant. mileage...the only reason it was mentioned was a joke. sorry for ignoring irrelevant information.
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KrishnaDreamer said: How does passing someone up cause more accidents? That's retarded, people pass up other people everyday. And because of a bikes agility and maneuverability it's easy as fuck to do. What do you think the fast lane is for?
Ever heard of the autobahn? There are slow lanes and fast lanes - specifically used to pass people up.
Godamn you're dumb.
cutting people off in traffic, blunderbuss. not passing people on the road. you're not able to comprehend words. try doing that before you post.
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Akira_akuma is totally insane. He is the same old akira who says something completely batshit crazy like, "the motorcycle and car were moving at the same speed,"(even though it's clear the motorcycle was passing the car) and thenot argue it until he's blue in the face. News flash, if two objects are moving at the same speed, it's impossible for one to pass the other.
Agreed? Agreed.
you people need to actually start reading. i never said that the cyclist was slower. i was he was only SLIGHTLY FASTER and i was asking if that's enough speed to give enough clearance to the guy he was trying to pass.
i never said he was slower than or the same speed as the car, if you'd actually have read anything properly. Atreyu knew what i was referring to in the discussion. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22420514#22420514
more zero sum game playing from shroomery people. 
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No, you said he "wasn't going faster" than the car he was trying to pass, i.e. he was going the same speed or slower. Which he clearly wasn't (at least until the guy in the car tried to hit him.) If he was, the car would have remained the same or a greater distance ahead of him.
no. i'll fetch you the quote so you can finally shut up about it.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22420708#22420708
when i was mentioning the factor of his slowness, it was his slowness as he approached the car, but the car had swerved well into him slowing down, which i had to watch the video again to see, i missed it the first time, but me and shroomslip cleared up why it looked like it was going slower, because he slowed down at the car...but nonetheless my question always this: was he FAST ENOUGH to get ahead with enough clearance. focus on that, not shit that's already been cleared up.
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By the time the motorcycle was beside him, it would be pretty clear what the motorcycle rider's intentions were (to pass him.) To rear-end the bike, it would have to already be in front of him. Yes he could conceivably decide to accelerate into it at that point and hit it, just as anyone at any time could decide to accelerate towards the vehicle in front of them and rear-end it. This is not normal driving behavior however. Neither is speeding up when a passing driver is still in the oncoming lane to block them from getting back into your lane.
that is all i was saying. if the guy already isn't a very nice driver, why he could do any of the above...hell, he doesn't even need to be malicious, just stupid, and not realize someone is trying to pass him, and that's why the double lines are there. i rest my case. you agree with me, the whole time! look at that.
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Re: Asshole tries to kill people on a motorcycle with his car. [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22422789 - 10/23/15 12:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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makaveli8x8 said: also passing 2 cars at the same time is pretty much the definition of douchebaggery
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Re: Asshole tries to kill people on a motorcycle with his car. [Re: Sun King]
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Re: Asshole tries to kill people on a motorcycle with his car. [Re: Sun King]
#22422808 - 10/23/15 12:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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but not according to about half the thread Sun_King. half the thread doesn't give a flying fuck what's behind them.
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luvdemshrooms said:
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D.M.T said: When you've edjumacated emasculated akira_akuma as long as I have you'll understand.
and yet no such thing was ever done.
lol at everyone trying to deduce that i'm talking about normal driving behavior.
i think psi said it best.
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By the time the motorcycle was beside him, it would be pretty clear what the motorcycle rider's intentions were (to pass him.) To rear-end the bike, it would have to already be in front of him. Yes he could conceivably decide to accelerate into it at that point and hit it, just as anyone at any time could decide to accelerate towards the vehicle in front of them and rear-end it. This is not normal driving behavior however. Neither is speeding up when a passing driver is still in the oncoming lane to block them from getting back into your lane.
yeah^ exactly.
case closed. i was right. it was dangerous to do what the cyclist did because of various factors, including malicious driving and maybe unconcerned driving.
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