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OfflineLucisM
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Re: Dude tries cold copping in EU, finds out country has no heroin since 2002 but 3-methylfentanyl [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22415173 - 10/21/15 07:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Stonehenge said:
Whats wrong with pot, shrooms, lsd, ket, mxe and similar stuff? They have some down sides but not as bad as opiates.

I get high on life and jebus.




Nothings wrong with those substances, but like I have said a bunch, opiates make one feel supreme when they're on them, not just high but the master of ones domain, king for the day until you get a raging addiction and then have to buy dope in order to maintain that feeling.

Towards the end of my addiction, I would only use enough heroin to not get sick, I was perfectly happy doing things this way.  I would only get faded like a handful of times out of the month because I couldn't afford it, so a maintenance user I became.

Opiates were, and will always be, my favorite substances.  I don't even use them any more, but my love for them is eternal.  I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing.  If I ever get bored with life and want to commit suicide, I know I will do so with heroin, I know that sounds morbid but it's how I feel.

I often find myself reminiscing about my former dope days, using those past pains to motivate my actions towards a brighter future.


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Re: Dude tries cold copping in EU, finds out country has no heroin since 2002 but 3-methylfentanyl [Re: millzy]
    #22415704 - 10/21/15 09:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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awful shit. i don't even understand why anyone trying to turn a profit would do that to their client base.



Greed. Evil men are willing to kill their fellow creature for covet purposes. There is true evil in the world. The mafia selling this literal poison to kids is representative of it.


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Re: Dude tries cold copping in EU, finds out country has no heroin since 2002 but 3-methylfentanyl [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22415889 - 10/21/15 09:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Stonehenge said:
You would be good in advertising, I keep telling you.

This is not a "good" drug, its a bad drug. Yes, its better than heroin and obviously dissolving it in liquid is the way to go. However, opiates are nasty drugs, leading not just to addiction but ruining health along the way.

Ever heard of "kicking" the habit? Wonder where they got the term? Its because opiate users get restless leg syndrome and their legs and arms may jerk uncontrollably. This also makes it hard to sleep leading to insomnia. It also gives severe constipation, badly affects the brain and has other side effects.

It will lead to another wave of addicts just as the pill mills did. When opiate users cant get pills from the doc, they score heroin. Now with nasal sprays we can expect even high schools to become infested with fent. Low cost, no needles, relatively safe = epidemic.

Whats wrong with pot, shrooms, lsd, ket, mxe and similar stuff? They have some down sides but not as bad as opiates.

I get high on life and jebus.





I don't think people are just going to start doing opiates just because its in spray form. Most people who get addicted had chronic pain it wasn't recreational use that got them hooked. I don't see a wave of high school addicts coming just because its easy to get or cool.
People already addicted are dropping like flies from fent contaminated heroin in my area I would like to see safer alternatives..


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Re: Dude tries cold copping in EU, finds out country has no heroin since 2002 but 3-methylfentanyl [Re: my3rdeye]
    #22415900 - 10/21/15 09:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

all of the friends i've had that have died from heroin, and yes that's friends with an "s", were recreational users.


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Re: Dude tries cold copping in EU, finds out country has no heroin since 2002 but 3-methylfentanyl [Re: my3rdeye]
    #22415901 - 10/21/15 09:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Safer yes, but stone is mostly right. If something like those droppers got around on campus, so many fucking people would be doing it. I even was thinking of looking into to it just to see what all the hype is about but I decided against it after stones reassuring post.


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Re: Dude tries cold copping in EU, finds out country has no heroin since 2002 but 3-methylfentanyl [Re: Webster10]
    #22416032 - 10/21/15 10:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

That story was superb. When he mentioned meeting that Estonian girl and immediately knowing she was a junkie trying to squeeze a fix out of his own purchase, that was trippy notion, makes being a world-trotting opedope sound fun.

Fentanyl in gel patches were the best opiate I've ever done.


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Re: Dude tries cold copping in EU, finds out country has no heroin since 2002 but 3-methylfentanyl [Re: BlunderSoftly]
    #22416616 - 10/22/15 03:27 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

It doesn't matter if it becomes an epidemic as long as it's cheap and legal. Despite what you might think, after being an opiate addict for a while, you don't keep increasing your dose ad infinitum, it eventually settles somewhere where you get high and you're good. I don't believe in the history of drug use, has there been anyone that's been able to shoot up 5 grams of pure heroin, for example.

What do you think would happen if cigarettes were to become prohibited? What happened during alcohol prohibition?


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Re: Dude tries cold copping in EU, finds out country has no heroin since 2002 but 3-methylfentanyl [Re: Asante]
    #22416652 - 10/22/15 03:54 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Asante said:
Unfortunately the black market for fentanyl analogs hasn't outgrown the heroin association.

The gray market has.




So, some of the Fentanyl analogs are decent? It's rather rare that I can find anyone talking about it. Every time I've brought them up, they've been dismissed as too dangerous to have any recreational value.

I'm intrigued. :strokebeard:


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Re: Dude tries cold copping in EU, finds out country has no heroin since 2002 but 3-methylfentanyl [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #22433386 - 10/25/15 07:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The gel patches were the safest way to do it, pharmaceutical so u knew it was evenly distributed. If I ever had powder fent I'd put a mortal and pestle to it before doing it.


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Re: Dude tries cold copping in EU, finds out country has no heroin since 2002 but 3-methylfentanyl [Re: Asante]
    #22433463 - 10/25/15 07:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Asante said:
Suppose you were an opioid addict and were offered something like this:



and you'd know you could shove it in your nose and pump and one whiff would get you withdrawal free, two would get you high, three whiffs would have you nod out, it lasts about 3 hours, feels good, you would not overdose and it gets offered you for a tenth of the price of smack, the small bottle holds 100 hits and the larger, 250..

Wouldnt you?

The 100 hit bottle would hold about half a milligram, by the way!





when it comes to the regulation of illegal drugs, it seems you have a good plan,
while i dont and probably never will be a habitual user of opiates, a method like
this is preferable to the shit we see in the streets and even at the methadone
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Re: Dude tries cold copping in EU, finds out country has no heroin since 2002 but 3-methylfentanyl [Re: Webster10]
    #22433470 - 10/25/15 07:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Webster10 said:
Safer yes, but stone is mostly right. If something like those droppers got around on campus, so many fucking people would be doing it. I even was thinking of looking into to it just to see what all the hype is about but I decided against it after stones reassuring post.





it's their choice, it's a regulators choice to add a warning label


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Re: Dude tries cold copping in EU, finds out country has no heroin since 2002 but 3-methylfentanyl [Re: Asante]
    #22433480 - 10/25/15 07:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Asante said:
thats a problem yes.

I think this is the future of opiates, spray bottles of highly potent opioids, not just Fentanyls but ultrapotent classical opiates too like Etorphine and Buprenorphine.



The future? This is already happening and probably the most popular administration method people use for the fentanyl analogues.


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Re: Dude tries cold copping in EU, finds out country has no heroin since 2002 but 3-methylfentanyl [Re: AlmostAsCoolAs] * 1
    #22433578 - 10/25/15 08:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Was talking about the subject with older ex user today.
Estonia is is just 30 minutes trip from here.
Fentanyl or white snow NO ES BUENO IMHO.
I fear that this is going to explode rapidly on our faces in this part of world:shrug:


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Re: Dude tries cold copping in EU, finds out country has no heroin since 2002 but 3-methylfentanyl [Re: LeningradCowboy] * 1
    #22433589 - 10/25/15 08:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

LC, you are correct. How can anyone think putting that stuff out there is a good idea? Well maybe if we put a warning label on it not to become an addict then it will be ok? Sheesh


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Re: Dude tries cold copping in EU, finds out country has no heroin since 2002 but 3-methylfentanyl [Re: Stonehenge] * 1
    #22433615 - 10/25/15 08:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Bruh do you really think the people that are distributing this think it's a good idea? It's all about the money and if you're buying random white powders then you should understand that you're risking your life.


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