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OfflineShroomy81
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Green Fluffy like cotton ???
    #22412374 - 10/21/15 06:38 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

hello everyone,

this is my first post, and i am posting it for a question regarding my cakes, my cakes have very light green like cotton fluffy on the top of them, i have included pictures to show you.

would you please tell me if this is contamination or nor, i have some blueish color after i touched them ( i know this is bruising) but can you pay attention to the top of my cakes , its very light green i hope you can notice it.

thank you

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Re: Green Fluffy like cotton ??? [Re: Shroomy81]
    #22412396 - 10/21/15 06:53 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

could be the starting of trich, but id wait till a tc throws his 2 cents in.

also your fruiting chamber looks like shit.. use the search engine and learn how to properly build a SGFC.. i don't even see holes on the sides of ur tub, the humidity and fresh air is probably way out of wack.


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Re: Green Fluffy like cotton ??? [Re: LethalWeapon]
    #22412418 - 10/21/15 07:06 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I have a ventilation fan at the top and also a humidity meter and thermometer pointing to 99% humidity and 24c temperature. Is that not enough?


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Re: Green Fluffy like cotton ??? [Re: LethalWeapon]
    #22412421 - 10/21/15 07:08 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Amd excuse my ignorance, but what u mean by tc and throw 2 cents in?


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Re: Green Fluffy like cotton ??? [Re: Shroomy81]
    #22412660 - 10/21/15 08:38 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

build a shot gun fruiting chamber. look it up, your boomers will love you for it. :shroomeryhead:


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Re: Green Fluffy like cotton ??? [Re: Shroomy81]
    #22412982 - 10/21/15 09:55 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Amd excuse my ignorance, but what u mean by tc and throw 2 cents in?



What I meant by that is what for a trusted cultivator to give some advice


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Re: Green Fluffy like cotton ??? [Re: LethalWeapon]
    #22413010 - 10/21/15 10:03 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I see an aweful lot of bruising on those cakes. Build a proper fruiting chamber. Humidity only happens if moisture is allowed to evaporate off of the cake and from air passing through the wet perlite. If you don't have holes in your fruiting chamber, this natural motion of cool dry air can not remove stagnant, co2 laden air from the chamber which can lead to contamination problems. Fresh air is your friend and the more, the better.


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Re: Green Fluffy like cotton ??? [Re: LethalWeapon]
    #22413016 - 10/21/15 10:05 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Oh god those are dry af.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15223324
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20195542
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21595437

Please follow these teks to the T. You did colonization of cakes properly. I don't see why you wouldn't fruit them properly too.. Did you dunk? Might want to think about dunking again and then getting them properly coated in verm. Careful not to slap some pins off the cake.


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Re: Green Fluffy like cotton ??? [Re: LethalWeapon]
    #22413026 - 10/21/15 10:07 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I don't think it's trich - i've gotten trich too many times in the past It's like my nemesis >.> And I can see that shit from a mile away. But don't rule out contamination as a whole. Cuz it probably is ^_^ lol If it aint myc it's prolly contam.

Definitely make a better SGFC (Shotgun Fruiting Chamber) for your cakes, they will thank you, and you will thank yourself later.

The blue on the side of your cakes and the lack of moisture on the sides of your tubs indicate to me you need to increase humidity and increase moisture - do you even mist bruh? lol jp  What's that you ask? >.> How?  By taking the SGFC advice - that shit will change your yield and make your cakes thrive compared to what you have going here. Mist and fan a bit each day and the SGFC alone should help manage rh levels.

If your ever rlly worried about a cake or substrate - toss it. Better to be safe than sorry - you don't want contams getting into the air of the home you do your work in and increase risks for future grows.

Take the booms off that cake and cut your losses, toss it - and knock up some more jars. :laugh:


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Re: Green Fluffy like cotton ??? [Re: Shroomy81]
    #22413066 - 10/21/15 10:19 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Shroomy81 said:
I have a ventilation fan at the top and also a humidity meter and thermometer pointing to 99% humidity and 24c temperature. Is that not enough?




That ventilation fan is just going to dry your cakes, that explains why the bruising at the top of the cakes. Also dunk and roll is a must, i guess you didn't do it. Make a proper SHFC and don't ever use a fan in the same room where you have your SHFC.


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Re: Green Fluffy like cotton ??? [Re: Mr. Alien]
    #22413100 - 10/21/15 10:28 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Shroomy81 said:
I have a ventilation fan at the top and also a humidity meter and thermometer pointing to 99% humidity and 24c temperature. Is that not enough?




That ventilation fan is just going to dry your cakes, that explains why the bruising at the top of the cakes. Also dunk and roll is a must, i guess you didn't do it. Make a proper SHFC and don't ever use a fan in the same room where you have your SHFC.




Dunk and Roll for sure.

Get rid of the vent fan, it will dry your shit out (as it already seems to be)
Build a SGFC - plz don't justify your grow, we are here to help you improve your game. Better yield, more efficiency. Do the things we've said to do and I guarantee more success.

Sometimes you buy humidity meters and temp gauges that A. Flat out don't work right. B. Are bunk from the manufacturer. I gave up on using gauges - If you just monitor your babies properly you can tell by looking at them, that they are doing just fine - or need a bit of a mist - if you open your lid and its clammy in the box then thats just right. you know?

Seems like your almost there :laugh: you've got mushies, you know how to make cakes - now you need to improve your fruiting game. How can you improve the amount and quality of your yield.


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Re: Green Fluffy like cotton ??? [Re: ConcreteWaves]
    #22413217 - 10/21/15 10:54 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

thank you guys for the answers and advice , i guess i will toss them and start over, with more experience this time :smile:

thanks again


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Re: Green Fluffy like cotton ??? [Re: Shroomy81]
    #22413224 - 10/21/15 10:56 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm3: please don't!!! Its easily fixed... Just needs a proper chamber with good fae, dunk and roll, and proper misting.

PLEASE READ THOSE LINKS I POSTED FOR MORE DETAILS. FFS PLEASE JUST MAKE A PROPER CHAMBER. YOU HAVE TO NEXT TIME ANYWAYS.

YOU SHOULD JUST MAKE MORE JARS WHILE THESE ARE IN FRUITING.


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Re: Green Fluffy like cotton ??? [Re: Shroomy81]
    #22413434 - 10/21/15 11:50 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm3: please don't!!! Its easily fixed... Just needs a proper chamber with good fae, dunk and roll, and proper misting.

PLEASE READ THOSE LINKS I POSTED FOR MORE DETAILS. FFS PLEASE JUST MAKE A PROPER CHAMBER. YOU HAVE TO NEXT TIME ANYWAYS.

YOU SHOULD JUST MAKE MORE JARS WHILE THESE ARE IN FRUITING.





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Shroomy81 said:
thank you guys for the answers and advice , i guess i will toss them and start over, with more experience this time :smile:

thanks again




Don't kill the whole grow op like Mad Season says.

Start by making a SGFC. Transfer your good cakes into the SGFC. Finish fruiting out the "iffy" cakes and toss them. Start making new cakes. It's good to have jars colonizing "on deck."


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Re: Green Fluffy like cotton ??? [Re: ConcreteWaves]
    #22413692 - 10/21/15 01:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Could one per se roll for the second flush after dunking?


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Re: Green Fluffy like cotton ??? [Re: hobowizard]
    #22413786 - 10/21/15 01:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Like said above. Those cakes are dry as Fuck. No signs of contams. Get rid of that fan. Start misting, you want those cakes to be doing wet.


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Re: Green Fluffy like cotton ??? [Re: hobowizard]
    #22415978 - 10/21/15 10:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Could one per se roll for the second flush after dunking?



one could per se....no. It is not advised.


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Re: Green Fluffy like cotton ??? [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #22416168 - 10/21/15 11:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Like others have said, I think they are dry, and what is going on on top is dried out mycellium, which turns a yellowish hue.

Your fruiting chamber obviously sucks if they are both dry and starved for oxygen (as evidenced by your elongaged fruits with small caps.)  There are ways to go other than an SGFC.

Personally, I'd just throw them in much larger tote, fan it out every day, and mist it every few days.  The air requirements of a few cakes are pretty low and don't really come into play unless you shove them in a tiny box with no holes.  You could also just cut some holes in that and stuff them with polyfill, and mist.



Some heavily neglected cakes in an underbed tote, given no light, fanned once a day, misted every 3-4, on their 3rd flush.


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Re: Green Fluffy like cotton ??? [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #22416311 - 10/22/15 12:25 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Like others have said, I think they are dry, and what is going on on top is dried out mycellium, which turns a yellowish hue.

Your fruiting chamber obviously sucks if they are both dry and starved for oxygen (as evidenced by your elongaged fruits with small caps.)  There are ways to go other than an SGFC.

Personally, I'd just throw them in much larger tote, fan it out every day, and mist it every few days.  The air requirements of a few cakes are pretty low and don't really come into play unless you shove them in a tiny box with no holes.  You could also just cut some holes in that and stuff them with polyfill, and mist.



Some heavily neglected cakes in an underbed tote, given no light, fanned once a day, misted every 3-4, on their 3rd flush.




:facepalm:

OP build a proper shotgun fruiting chamber. Yeah of course cubes can grow in a closed box, cubes can grow anywhere. Manual fanning does not replace the continual air flow of the SHFC. Continual air flow produces a nice evaporation rate that your cakes will benefit of.

Although i agree that having your cakes inside a closed box manually fanned is much better than right bellow a ceiling fan drying the fuck out of them.


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