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OfflineULTIMAH
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Can i use this bulk substrate?
    #22412250 - 10/21/15 04:13 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

4 days ago i pasteurized some substrate. I was too busy then so i couldnt make a monotub then, so i left the substrate and the water in the bucket.


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Re: Can i use this bulk substrate? [Re: ULTIMAH]
    #22412276 - 10/21/15 04:54 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Should be okay to use if the lid was on.  Then again it's easy and cheap to prep more. I myself would probably use it if it passed the sniff test, but I take too many chances for the sake of not throwing stuff out.


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Re: Can i use this bulk substrate? [Re: thebitterbuffalo26]
    #22412286 - 10/21/15 05:03 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I smelled it today and it smelled like any other substrate that i have made, and the lid was on tightly. Im gonna use it and report what happens.
The spawn ratio is 1:5. 2,5 liters of spawn and 12,5 liters of substrate.


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Re: Can i use this bulk substrate? [Re: thebitterbuffalo26]
    #22412337 - 10/21/15 06:12 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I had to toss it.
The smell was not so good when i started squeesing the water out of the substrate. DAMN!


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Re: Can i use this bulk substrate? [Re: ULTIMAH]
    #22412647 - 10/21/15 08:35 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I used coir sitting in a bucket since JUNE for this tub I'm doing right now.



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Re: Can i use this bulk substrate? [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
    #22412655 - 10/21/15 08:37 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I prep my coir in advance and just leave it in the bucket until I need it.


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Re: Can i use this bulk substrate? [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #22412670 - 10/21/15 08:39 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

:whathesaid: Coir doesn't care. The bucket was sitting in my garage all freaking summer and it never contamed.


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Re: Can i use this bulk substrate? [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
    #22412825 - 10/21/15 09:18 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

are we sure its coir? he could've bucket tek'd some manure for all I know :shrug:
still should be good after 4 days no matter what it was.


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Re: Can i use this bulk substrate? [Re: spacechildo]
    #22412879 - 10/21/15 09:27 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

lol good point


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Re: Can i use this bulk substrate? [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
    #22412939 - 10/21/15 09:42 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Coir is strong against contams. That shit will last forever lol. Damn near. I've had some under my workbench in my garage i've brought to field capacity just sitting there - I was for sure that shit must've been moldy as hell when I went to check on it a few weeks later - and it smelled like dirt...normal sub. So I checked it a couple months later - the top was dried out, when I mixed it up - It was still damp and field capacity - and it still smelled like fresh dirt.

This was also mixed with Verm and Gypsum. So your sub should be fine.

Look into: CoCoCoir/Verm/Gypsum/Straw/Coffee Grinds  substrate - mix it all together in 5 gal bucket, then pasturize what u need to make a tub. Killer combo.


I'll keep it all in a 5 gal bucket under my workbench - I make multiple small tubs instead of 1 or 2 big ass ones - incase of contam - it's isolated to that small tub. But it's productive to in advance prep a bucket with your substrate - bring it to field capacity, mix it up every now and then. And let it sit with a lid on it somewhere (the lid isn't to prevent contam necessarily, for me - I'm a carpenter - and lots of dust and crap in my garage in the air I don't want in the bucket). This way, when it comes time to make a tub - Just go grab enough from your bucket full of substrate, and pasturize that. This hobby is fun at first - and it's fun down the road, but can pose to be a bit tedious at times when the excitement of your first 5 - 10 grows are out the way. Then you rlly just wanna become efficient with how you do things, speed wise without losing quality.


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Re: Can i use this bulk substrate? [Re: ConcreteWaves]
    #22412954 - 10/21/15 09:47 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Killer combo IMO is all the bulk subs jambled into one. Manure is always a great additive. It has TONS of beneficial organism's that will colonize everything else. Like the coir and what not.


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Re: Can i use this bulk substrate? [Re: Mad Season]
    #22412990 - 10/21/15 09:57 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Killer combo IMO is all the bulk subs jambled into one. Manure is always a great additive. It has TONS of beneficial organism's that will colonize everything else. Like the coir and what not.




I agree with you 100%. Where I'm at it's not as easy to get my hands on manure - I can order it but it's spensive. Way cheaper and easier to get my hands on big bags of Organic CoCoCoir. And I used to buy it in giant compressed bricks. But the hydro store by my house now sells it pre mixed (with water) so it's still 100% organic coir, just not compressed and annoying to work with. And it's damn near field capacity when you open the bag, ya still have to add water but not much.

Anywho - yea, if I had a reliable/semi-cheap source to get my hands on manure I'd be adding it to my sub everytime. I had a few grows with manure in the past - and they thrived :laugh: Since then i've been using Coir and trying different methods to replicate those manure grows.


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Re: Can i use this bulk substrate? [Re: spacechildo]
    #22413425 - 10/21/15 11:46 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I used coir, verm, gypsum and coffee. It smelled bad so i prepared some more just to be safe. Maybe it was the coffee that made it smell?


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Re: Can i use this bulk substrate? [Re: ULTIMAH]
    #22413427 - 10/21/15 11:47 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

yeah you shouldnt bucket tek coffee.


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