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spacechildo
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what you gonna do with amanita spores?
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Grim767
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Id be interested in print if you find any
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Re: Living bread upate [Re: Grim767]
#22417329 - 10/22/15 09:19 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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So you cant inoculate the barley jars with spores...only powdered amanita or live culture!?
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DaveyJones6911
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spacechildo said: what you gonna do with amanita spores?
I was gonna give them away or trade them.
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Re: Living bread upate [Re: oontribe]
#22417349 - 10/22/15 09:25 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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bummer. no biggie, like I said I wouldnt be able to experiment with it till next season anyway.
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spacechildo
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spacechildo said: what you gonna do with amanita spores?
I was gonna give them away or trade them.
whats the people you trade with gonna do with them then?  just grow myc?
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spirit_shadow
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spacechildo said: what you gonna do with amanita spores?
I was gonna give them away or trade them.
whats the people you trade with gonna do with them then?  just grow myc?
I dont know about other people but as for me, I want them for next season to see if I can get an outdoor patch going......and maybe experiment a little.
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spacechildo
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so you're gonna bury spawn next to some pine tree roots?
amanitas are so normal around here it just never struck me as soemthing people would bother to do with such low chance of success..
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spirit_shadow
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spacechildo said: so you're gonna bury spawn next to some pine tree roots?
amanitas are so normal around here it just never struck me as soemthing people would bother to do with such low chance of success..
believe it or not, I have NEVER seen not even ONE in my area in the whole 15+ yrs of being out there. I have pine trees, but never see any amanitas. so I think it would be something fun to try out and experiment.
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DrCrumbs
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There not always that bright red. In many northern area's they're more of an orange.
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spacechildo
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because that's not a muscaria, there's about 600 different amanitas out there.
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spacechildo said: because that's not a muscaria, there's about 600 different amanitas out there.
exactly, I have seen those(only like two seasons out of those 15yrs), but not muscaria.
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DaveyJones6911
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you sure it's not just a variation of muscaria? certainly looks like muscaria to me. and apparently there is even a green version of it.
out here it is all the classic bright/hard red though. though i did also spot what i thought was pantherina a while ago.
here's the specimen i saw:
 you can see the gills and veil are missing.
anyhoo i did bring home a small fruit, i could try to clone that.
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DaveyJones6911
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ohh on the cultivation of these things, i did notice something interesting. the place where these things grow is at the moment covered in tree seeds and pods, and both the pods and seeds themselves seem to be extremely receptive to being infected by mycelium. i have seen several of them being infected from simply lying against the base of a mushroom.
i wonder if the seeds might have something to do with the way it achieves the symbiosis.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanita_muscaria (I know not the most trusted source for citing stuff)
https://erowid.org/plants/amanitas/amanitas_muscaria_formosa.shtml (seems some ppl hate erowid here)
http://botit.botany.wisc.edu/toms_fungi/dec99.html (I dunno how much to trust this, however it describes the different colors by region)
EDIT: Amanita muscaria (all fly agaric) has several variations, not just Amanita's.
Edited by DrCrumbs (10/22/15 11:36 AM)
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spacechildo
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Re: Living bread upate [Re: DrCrumbs]
#22417816 - 10/22/15 11:37 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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tom volk is most definitely trust worthy 
but still that yellow one is not a muscaria, i'm not sure of its real name cause there are so many amanitas out there.
all mushrooms change color by weather and age, its nothing special for muscarias.
edit: of course I could be wrong. but I really dont think so, I'll try to find the scientific or english name for those yellow ones.
edit2: or try the ID forum, those guys are walking talking libraries when it comes to ID'ing mushrooms!
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DaveyJones6911
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spacechildo said: tom volk is most definitely trust worthy 
but still that yellow one is not a muscaria, i'm not sure of its real name cause there are so many amanitas out there.
all mushrooms change color by weather and age, its nothing special for muscarias.
edit: of course I could be wrong. but I really dont think so, I'll try to find the scientific or english name for those yellow ones.
edit2: or try the ID forum, those guys are walking talking libraries when it comes to ID'ing mushrooms!
i am familiar with Amanita pantherina, which starts out golden brown and turns into a golden yellow as it matures.
also i think you can cut down on the possibilities and see what is known to grow in your specific area.
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spacechildo
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yeah its not a pantherina, they look much darker than that and usually dont have that shape. i'm still not confident in ID*ing pantherinas, a lot of different amanitas grow around here.
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DrCrumbs
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I mean I dunno I could be totally wrong (I also just pulled this pic, but its what they look like up north).
Sorry to go off topic with this we should have probably started a new thread. Growing up this what we found and treated as normal ones. I really like this thread and would like to try this now, and grab a specimen from up north.
Amanita muscaria var. formosa is what Tom id'ed as the yellow ones.
Wiki: Amanita muscaria var. formosa sensu Thiers or Amanita muscaria var. guessowii
The wiki pictures are exactly what I've seen (I know two dif var.'s).
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spacechildo said: yeah its not a pantherina, they look much darker than that and usually dont have that shape. i'm still not confident in ID*ing pantherinas, a lot of different amanitas grow around here.
It's definitely a muscaria. Possibly var formosa. Post it in the hunting and id forum and they'll tell you its a muscaria
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