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Galindoi Mono - No Pins After 2 Weeks
    #22410441 - 10/20/15 05:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Background:

I inoculated 9qts of rye with a MS syringe and waited for 100% colonization. 6qts of rye were spawned to CVG in a 66qt mono with 1.5" holes in the standard configuration. 3 were left for stones and those are doing very well.

After 10 days the tub was completely colonized. I cased with some pasteurized 50/50 and a small amount of coir since I ran out of 50/50. Tub was put into fruiting conditions 2 days later.

I have a small fan running in the room pointing away from the tub and 6500k light is on a 12/12 schedule. Poly is stuffed tight on the lower holes and basically falling out on the top two. Temps have been in the mid 60s.

Question:

I have only fruited galindoi from cased rye in the past and had pins in less than a week. It's now been two and there isn't a sign of a pin to be found. The myc hasn't colonized the casing at all, but there are obviously stones forming in the casing since they are cracking the surface.

Does anyone have any ideas on what might be causing this?


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Re: Galindoi Mono - No Pins After 2 Weeks [Re: Scrimshaw]
    #22410847 - 10/20/15 07:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Galindoi Mono - No Pins After 2 Weeks [Re: torpy]
    #22410881 - 10/20/15 07:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Galindoi can be finicky sometimes. My first 10 monos went great, and then like 6 in a row didn't pin at all... Recently, I've had more success with a 1/2" top layer at spawning, rather than casing at 100%.

Sometimes, if conditions aren't right, the mycelium will go into 'stone mode'. Are you sure your substrate was at field capacity? I would get more air to that baby and keep spraying heavily because stones suck tons of water from the substrate. Maybe take the lid off for longer periods when you are around the house.

If it still doesn't pin in a week or so, I'd dunk it and try for one more round.


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Re: Galindoi Mono - No Pins After 2 Weeks [Re: Sksoul]
    #22412268 - 10/21/15 04:48 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Substrate was at field capacity at spawning. The brick of coir was mixed with 4qts water and just a few drops of water ran out after a squeeze.

I'm going to pull the poly out of the top holes completely today to try and get more air in there. I've been keeping the casing moist through misting for the past week. I'll probably increase misting due to the higher FAE.

I can't imagine the sub has lost that much water. It hasn't shrunk that much, but maybe I'll try a dunk as a last resort.

I just can't believe there isn't at least one pin by now. If I had known I'd just get stones from this tub, I wouldn't have even spawned those jars. Now I'll have to clean coir and verm off them rather than just rye.:mad2:


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Re: Galindoi Mono - No Pins After 2 Weeks [Re: Scrimshaw]
    #22412348 - 10/21/15 06:20 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

My last two tubs went into "Stone mode". Big ol stones started forming. I still have a tamp tub like it. It was a fruit clone also.:mad2:


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Re: Galindoi Mono - No Pins After 2 Weeks [Re: Grey]
    #22412448 - 10/21/15 07:24 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Question for both of you. How deep were your substrates? Spawned and/or cased grains.

I don't think I ever noticed until now, but those first 10 monotubs I did were like 1.5-2 inches deep max. When I switched to a taller tub I ran deeper subs and they all stoned out (better alternative to triching out I guess) on me.

I'm wondering if mexicana varieties are similar to pan cyans in that regard...? I gotta spawn some test tubs now.


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Re: Galindoi Mono - No Pins After 2 Weeks [Re: Sksoul]
    #22412478 - 10/21/15 07:38 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

so smaller substrates are better...thats new! iam going to cultivate atl7, hopefully soon!


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Re: Galindoi Mono - No Pins After 2 Weeks [Re: oontribe]
    #22412549 - 10/21/15 08:01 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Both were no more than 2". Maybe 1.5".


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Re: Galindoi Mono - No Pins After 2 Weeks [Re: Grey]
    #22412582 - 10/21/15 08:13 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

... there goes that hunch  :boo:


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Re: Galindoi Mono - No Pins After 2 Weeks [Re: Sksoul]
    #22412727 - 10/21/15 08:57 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Last thread we discussed this exact issue, we theorized that we were letting the substrate consolidate. Possibly switching into fruiting earlier could solve this problem. I'm still unsure. I'll have to make some more spawn and try a few things out.


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Re: Galindoi Mono - No Pins After 2 Weeks [Re: Grey]
    #22412766 - 10/21/15 09:07 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yea, I remember stonesun pitched in, no?

I think that's why going with the top layer at spawning and using a non-airtight tub has been helping. Well, whoever gets to it first can make a new official thread :shrug: :toast:


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Re: Galindoi Mono - No Pins After 2 Weeks [Re: Sksoul]
    #22412777 - 10/21/15 09:09 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I'm going to give a galindoi tub a go with azur's "straight to fruiting" method and see what happens


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Re: Galindoi Mono - No Pins After 2 Weeks [Re: Sksoul]
    #22412901 - 10/21/15 09:32 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

So 2"sub + 1/4" casing?


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Re: Galindoi Mono - No Pins After 2 Weeks [Re: oontribe]
    #22413157 - 10/21/15 10:40 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

My sub was slightly deeper than yours. Approximately 3.5". I spawned to bulk, not just cased grains.

Have any of you had luck getting pins to form after it stoned out? I feel like just harvesting the stones at this point and freeing up the tub for other projects.


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Re: Galindoi Mono - No Pins After 2 Weeks [Re: Scrimshaw]
    #22413370 - 10/21/15 11:30 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Not yet, I still have the tamp tub from May. I should probably go ahead and harvest the stones and try and plant the substrate outside.


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