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topsykretts
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Aquarium heater suggestions and questions.
#22408886 - 10/20/15 11:23 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm in need of an aquarium heater for my TiT. What are you using?
Does the wattage mean that the heater heats the water faster? I'm concerned about electricity usage so I don't want to go too high. My TiT is less than 58 quarts (not sure exactly).
The last one I had broke so I want one that is well built but hopefully not more than $20 shipped.
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Re: Aquarium heater suggestions and questions. [Re: topsykretts]
#22413388 - 10/21/15 11:36 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Have you considered ditching the tit and just growing in a room temperature room? As long as you're comfortable, they will be too. Use a space heater if you're cold. 15 minutes at full blast heats my room for 2 hours at least when it's -40 outside. Tho I do have a well insulated house.
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Re: Aquarium heater suggestions and questions. [Re: Mad Season]
#22430986 - 10/25/15 08:58 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mad Season said: Have you considered ditching the tit and just growing in a room temperature room? As long as you're comfortable, they will be too. Use a space heater if you're cold. 15 minutes at full blast heats my room for 2 hours at least when it's -40 outside. Tho I do have a well insulated house.
I'd rather just use the TiT, personally. My house can get a little cold in the winter and we try not to use the heat too much. Not only that but I think that the jars colonize faster this way, even in the summer. I had an aquarium heater previously, but it broke and leaked. Colonization was much faster.
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Re: Aquarium heater suggestions and questions. [Re: topsykretts]
#22431013 - 10/25/15 09:06 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Much faster probably means it was fucked. 65f vs 75f the difference in colonization times is minimal maybe a day or two
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Re: Aquarium heater suggestions and questions. [Re: bodhisatta]
#22431060 - 10/25/15 09:25 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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RogerRabbit said: I've been saying that for years. My petri dish studies a few years ago showed that cubensis reaches peak linear growth between 75F and 80F, then is flat until 83F, where it starts to slow down. Mycelium at 86F is growing at about 2/3 the speed of mycelium at 80F. In addition, the higher temps tend to stimulate thermophic molds and bacteria.
There's LOT'S of good information in TMC, but that 86F figure is one of the errors. RR
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RogerRabbit said: It was all posted on the other board. I don't know if the threads are still there or not. Bottom line was the tubs that had petri dishes between 75F and 81F showed no difference in growth. Below 75F, and above 81F growth slowed down, with a rapid drop in colonization speed below 70F and above 83F. At 86F, a petri dish would be 2/3 colonized, while its sister at 75F would be fully colonized. Rate of growth at 86F was exactly the same as rate of growth at 72F, with fastest growth as said, occurring between 75F and 81F.
Note that these tests were for linear growth in the two dimensional plane of a petri dish. In three dimensonal space such as in grain jars or bulk substrates, the effects of thermogenesis need to be considered, so ambient temps should be lowered slightly to compensate. RR
70-75 is the best for colonisation.
During colonisation there is no need to worry about humidity. It will have a filter for gas exchange that'll hold humidity down.
As for fruiting.. You want 99% SURFACE HUMIDITY. RELATIVE HUMIDITY ISNT IMPORTANT.
As seen here: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/remlinker.php?Cat=&Entry=149412&F_Board=2&Thread=21288129&Main=21288129
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22105120
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The thing to remember(which is something i find misunderstood) is that the most important humidity you have is surface humidity, in other words it really doesn't matter if your fc has a rh of 40% or 99% as long as there is room for evaporation to take place the humidity that is important sits on the surface.
This is our goal with every fruiting chamber we use is surface humidity, with our monotubs we dial them in to achieve this, with our sgfc's we mist as needed to achieve this, with our gh's we (depending on your set up)use something like an ultrasonic humidifier as a timed mister to achieve this because once we have this we can focus on fae which is a great tool for everything your substrate wants for many reasons, the more the better
The reason we grow in a high humidity environment is simple, mushrooms have no skin and lose moisture to the environment very easily and if they lose more then is being pumped in they simply die. This is an easy fix just simply misting your fruits
There's also this, which is a good explanation:
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Air exchange is the number one pinning trigger. Humidity is farther down the list. Perhaps the number 2 pinning trigger is a loss of moisture from the substrate. If you try to avoid misting by constantly pumping in wet air, you don't have a loss of moisture from the substrate and performance is poor.
You want constant air exchange, and then as the cake or other substrate dries out, you mist to replace the lost moisture. This dry-wet cycle is a MAJOR pinning trigger. There is no automated system that can replace your eyeballs and mister. I'm an electrical engineer by profession with a specialty in automation, so believe me when I say if the whole process could be automated, I'd have done it years ago. RR
And last but not least what proper misting looks like: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21595437
If you notice any massive differences work on your prep. Temps shouldn't effect it too much. I know a couple TCs who grow between 60-70. As long as you're comfortable, they will be too
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Re: Aquarium heater suggestions and questions. [Re: Mad Season]
#22433078 - 10/25/15 06:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well those jars did develop trich.
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Re: Aquarium heater suggestions and questions. [Re: topsykretts]
#22433264 - 10/25/15 06:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I never let my colonisation temp get higher than 76 degrees but I generally colonise between 65 and 70. It's a slight bit slower but it's safer.
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