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Re: Growool "rez-effect" whole grain millet casings. (pictures) [Re: Tremor1127]
    #2284194 - 01/29/04 01:57 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Just spray the walls and lid. No geolite/perlite.

Well, 2nd tray now fruited.



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Re: Growool "rez-effect" whole grain millet casings. (pictures) [Re: Starter]
    #2284418 - 01/29/04 03:14 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

so if you mist the walls then stick the lid back on, no need for perlite?

if so, SWEET! :smile:


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Re: Growool "rez-effect" whole grain millet casings. (pictures) [Re: alienated]
    #2311252 - 02/07/04 09:24 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

alienated, no perlite used. The trays evaporation, along with some wall and terrarium lid hand spraying provides all the RH needed.

Tremor1127, even when there's no beads of water seen on the walls and terrarium lid, they seem to manage. Gets real dry where I am. Bushfire season.

Anyway, the two growool trays have 2nd flushed after the usual tray dunk underwater over night.



Tray 1



Tray 2



Summer heat though is still too high (99f today) for the cubes to express their potential. I'm looking forward to Autumn.


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Re: Growool "rez-effect" whole grain millet casings. (pictures) [Re: Starter]
    #2312338 - 02/07/04 04:51 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

they look sweet man

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Re: Growool "rez-effect" whole grain millet casings. (pictures) [Re: Starter]
    #2312361 - 02/07/04 04:59 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I love you starter

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Re: Growool "rez-effect" whole grain millet casings. (pictures) [Re: Starter]
    #2314462 - 02/08/04 01:02 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Way to grow them man that is trully nice shi* , keep up the good work .


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Re: Growool "rez-effect" whole grain millet casings. (pictures) [Re: Starter]
    #2326206 - 02/12/04 09:48 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

The *total growool* tray fruited. I should have run it longer in incubation, it takes three times as long to "mend" compared to vermiculite and/or coir cases. Though next time I think it would be better (if I do it) to apply dry as a casing and then mist. Adding it moist tends to make lumps that the mycelium finds difficult to get through, hence an erratic pinset (thin fruiting).



As growool wouldn't be good for heath if eaten then a dock of the mushrooms be prudent. It is IMO a material suited to sub-base and grain water retention only or as cased growool cakes (that's on the go atm).



Usual dunk.



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Re: Growool "rez-effect" whole grain millet casings. (pictures) [Re: Starter]
    #2328669 - 02/12/04 09:35 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks for the continued hard work!  :thumbup:


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Re: Growool "rez-effect" whole grain millet casings. (pictures) [Re: Starter]
    #2328844 - 02/12/04 11:05 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Interesting stuff, Starter.

Thanks for that!


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Re: Growool "rez-effect" whole grain millet casings. (pictures) [Re: Starter]
    #2329486 - 02/13/04 03:02 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Nice post as usualy mang, I wish I could get away with dunking like that... I also still can't get moisture content with WBS right, giving it another go as soon as I get some honey ready (Side by side with hominy and popcorn)... M  :eyemouth:

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Re: Growool "rez-effect" whole grain millet casings. (pictures) [Re: Marvin92]
    #2332146 - 02/13/04 07:35 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

brilliant!!!!!!!!

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Re: Growool "rez-effect" whole grain millet casings. (pictures) [Re: NewSpore]
    #2335544 - 02/14/04 07:59 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks guys. :smile:

Marvin, just try a few experiments up and down in water content from 200ml water to 250 grams millet and you'll get there.

Anyway, 3rd flush on the first growool tray. Heat is really messing with the fruiting i.e. lanky  -- as hot as an incubator for room temp.



I'm hoping the Creeper which did fruit larger, despite erratic pinset to the heat and required a cold shock, will play a bit better in some straw (not that this is on topic to this thread). If so, then that will be my hot season cube.



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Re: Growool "rez-effect" whole grain millet casings. (pictures) [Re: Starter]
    #2340460 - 02/16/04 09:07 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Starter, is that grow wool ever sold as pet bedding?  I just noticed walmart has some stuff that looks exactly like that in the pet section.  But I wouldn't have expected to see it there.

This may be a silly question, but how big & how many holes do you use in the bottom of your trays? 

AFOAF is trying the move from PF tek to casing & just did some popcorn with a bottom layer of verm that was only slightly damp per some advice in the FAQ that it would soak up extra moisture.  After reading your logs though he thinks they may be too dry.  He'd not read anywhere about the idea of using holes in the tray. 

I see from the straw you do bulk too?  What's your take on the efficiency of rez-effect casings vs bulk methods when growing for weight?

Thanks Starter!  :smile:


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Re: Growool "rez-effect" whole grain millet casings. (pictur [Re: ]
    #2343167 - 02/16/04 08:08 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

You know what i just thought of, instead of using growwool you can just use cleaned pink insulation. One of the guys on OG is using insulation for cloning and seedlings with success. Insulation is much cheaper then growool.

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Re: Growool "rez-effect" whole grain millet casings. (pictures) [Re: Tantalus]
    #2344448 - 02/17/04 02:08 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Third flush second growool tray. Temps are incubator level.



While not part of this thread, a fourth flush on a standard verm rez.



It's been hot here which explains the room temp. I think I'll tools down next Summer.

Jan Min Max
01/01/04 21 34
02/01/04 13 33
03/01/04 18 35
04/01/04 20 35
05/01/04 21 38
06/01/04 25 33
07/01/04 24 36
08/01/04 30 34
09/01/04 15 32
10/01/04 20 36
11/01/04 21 33
12/01/04 24 28
13/01/04 23 31
14/01/04 23 28
15/01/04 21 23
16/01/04 22 26
17/01/04 23 35
18/01/04 22 28
19/01/04 19 23
20/01/04 15 29
21/01/04 19 34
22/01/04 20 37
23/01/04 21 26
24/01/04 19 33
25/01/04 20 23
26/01/04 17 30
27/01/04 19 30
28/01/04 19 32
29/01/04 20 33
30/01/04 17 35
31/01/04 19 31
Average Daily Min = 20.32
Average Daily Max = 31.42

Feb Min Max
01/02/04 16 31
02/02/04 16 27
03/02/04 18 26
04/02/04 17 26
05/02/04 15 29
06/02/04 16 35
07/02/04 18 36
08/02/04 19 34
09/02/04 20 38
10/02/04 24 37
11/02/04 23 42
12/02/04 24 37
13/02/04 23 35
14/02/04 22 32
15/02/04 23 35
16/02/04 26 33
Average Daily Min = 20.00
Average Daily Max = 33.31


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Starter, is that grow wool ever sold as pet bedding? I just noticed walmart has some stuff that looks exactly like that in the pet section. But I wouldn't have expected to see it there.




Tantalus, I haven't seen it sold as pet bedding, it would be itchy stuff on pets (makes me itch) but check by burning a piece of it. It won't catch fire if it is glass. You want it inert, whatever it is.

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This may be a silly question, but how big & how many holes do you use in the bottom of your trays?




Drainage holes on trays, six per tray.





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AFOAF is trying the move from PF tek to casing & just did some popcorn with a bottom layer of verm that was only slightly damp per some advice in the FAQ that it would soak up extra moisture. After reading your logs though he thinks they may be too dry. He'd not read anywhere about the idea of using holes in the tray.




Drainage holes allow excess water in the sub-case layer to drain in the prep up. The sub-case layer also prevents the substrate being exposed to air. Finally the drainage holes allows the tray to drain between flushes when dunked, so I use catch trays. Same as plants.

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I see from the straw you do bulk too? What's your take on the efficiency of rez-effect casings vs bulk methods when growing for weight?




First foray into straw. I'll see how it goes. Though grain has without doubt more carbs/protein than manure/straw/compost so it should give more return per unit input....provided the growing parameters i.e. temps are correct.


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You know what i just thought of, instead of using growwool you can just use cleaned pink insulation. One of the guys on OG is using insulation for cloning and seedlings with success. Insulation is much cheaper then growool.




Gr0wer, the only problem with regular insulation -- as per batts or loose glass fibre -- is the pH balance. Horticultural grade is neutral.



For what it's worth, growool is made by CRS Bradford Insulation, same guys who make insulation batts -- as per that piece of yellow insulation ^above in pic. But by all means experiment with it, if you can get a pH neutral source, you're set. Mind you, tearing it up into small pieces would be tedious and splintery. I used to do that with rockwool slabs for plant propagation.


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Re: Growool "rez-effect" whole grain millet casings. (pictures) [Re: Starter]
    #2348444 - 02/18/04 01:12 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I think I'll conclude this thread, the growool works, but the heat makes it tough all round.

Concluded.

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Again, not on topic to this thread but the 2nd standard verm rez tray at 4th flush.



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