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Re: Liberals win a majority government (Canada) [Re: koods]
#22408491 - 10/20/15 09:46 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ezuma said: Luckily in this case canada is less democratic and its much easier for a pm to introduce huge changes than for a president. Part of why harper sucked so much
introduction of policy doesnt make policy
It does in a majority government
cap and trade
obama had the house, the senate and of course the executive branch and yet with his filibuster proof majority he couldnt get cap and trade passed, he couldnt get a lot of bills passed in those 2 years and he kept blaming the republicans even though it was his own party that was shooting them down
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Re: Liberals win a majority government (Canada) [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22408500 - 10/20/15 09:48 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ezuma said: Luckily in this case canada is less democratic and its much easier for a pm to introduce huge changes than for a president. Part of why harper sucked so much
introduction of policy doesnt make policy
This isn't the US. Marijuana will be legal in this country in less than 2 years. They have a majority, they can pass anything they want if Trudeau tells them too.
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Re: Liberals win a majority government (Canada) [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22408513 - 10/20/15 09:50 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ezuma said: Luckily in this case canada is less democratic and its much easier for a pm to introduce huge changes than for a president. Part of why harper sucked so much
introduction of policy doesnt make policy
It does in a majority government
cap and trade
obama had the house, the senate and of course the executive branch and yet with his filibuster proof majority he couldnt get cap and trade passed, he couldnt get a lot of bills passed in those 2 years and he kept blaming the republicans even though it was his own party that was shooting them down
That's not how it works in a parliamentary system. Everyone has to vote the same way - the way the party leader says they vote. If they don't, the government is dissolved and they call new elections.
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Re: Liberals win a majority government (Canada) [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22408514 - 10/20/15 09:50 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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America and canada work differently thouh. Its much harder to introduce changes in america, which isnt necessarily a bad thing in all cases. You do understand that not all democracies follow the us model yes?
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Re: Liberals win a majority government (Canada) [Re: koods]
#22408526 - 10/20/15 09:53 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well I mean they technically can vote against the PM if they want, but if it's something important they risk getting kicked out of the party. Also, if the party loses confidence in their leader, they can elect a new one and then that person becomes PM.
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Re: Liberals win a majority government (Canada) [Re: psi]
#22408537 - 10/20/15 09:55 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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psi said: Well I mean they technically can vote against the PM if they want, but if it's something important they risk getting kicked out of the party. Also, if the party loses confidence in their leader, they can elect a new one and then that person becomes PM.
Harper has changed the way voting works. He created a "stick together" culture. To a point where you wondered if his MPs had freedom of choice.
The liberals have been in the opposition too long not to pass a shit ton of bills. Omnibus all of them to speed shit up.
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Re: Liberals win a majority government (Canada) [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22408554 - 10/20/15 10:00 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Cyclohexylamine said: ***Dancing***
During the campaign Trudeau took the high road - no attack ads, and it paid off. Marijuana is going to be legal here soon..
tymo... dont you remember all the people here that kept saying obama would legalize marijuana in his second term, they said the same of his first term too...
Legalizing marijuana was one of the Liberal parties platform. They have a majority. In Canada - that means that they basically can pass any bill they want (of course, the laws have to withstand consitutional / charter challenges - which is kind of the purpose of the Senate, to provide a sober second thought on if the bill is actually OK. ). It's not like the US system. Technically MPs can vote against their party - but as noted if it's a campaign promise they are going to be booted from the party. Of course, opposition parties can also add support to bills to help it pass.
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Re: Liberals win a majority government (Canada) [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
#22408569 - 10/20/15 10:04 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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US politicians are too busy telling dirty lies and covering up their bloody messes with the blame game
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Re: Liberals win a majority government (Canada) [Re: koods]
#22408571 - 10/20/15 10:04 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's not how it works in a parliamentary system. Everyone has to vote the same way - the way the party leader says they vote. If they don't, the government is dissolved and they call new elections.
you didnt say parliament, you said a majority government
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Re: Liberals win a majority government (Canada) [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
#22408592 - 10/20/15 10:06 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Cyclohexylamine said: ***Dancing***
During the campaign Trudeau took the high road - no attack ads, and it paid off. Marijuana is going to be legal here soon..
tymo... dont you remember all the people here that kept saying obama would legalize marijuana in his second term, they said the same of his first term too...
Legalizing marijuana was one of the Liberal parties platform. They have a majority. In Canada - that means that they basically can pass any bill they want (of course, the laws have to withstand consitutional / charter challenges - which is kind of the purpose of the Senate, to provide a sober second thought on if the bill is actually OK. ). It's not like the US system.
how many empty promises have politicians handed to canadians in the past?
dont wait, the people need to push for it now
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Re: Liberals win a majority government (Canada) [Re: koods]
#22408598 - 10/20/15 10:08 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's not how it works in a parliamentary system. Everyone has to vote the same way - the way the party leader says they vote. If they don't, the government is dissolved and they call new elections.
Not at all how it works.
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Re: Liberals win a majority government (Canada) [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22408604 - 10/20/15 10:10 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's not how it works in a parliamentary system. Everyone has to vote the same way - the way the party leader says they vote. If they don't, the government is dissolved and they call new elections.
you didnt say parliament, you said a majority government
Parliamentary system, Majority government.
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how many empty promises have politicians handed to canadians in the past?
dont wait, the people need to push for it now
I agree. However 2 out of 3 official parties support legalization - so it seems to be how the country is headed. What I would like to see is immediate decriminalization and then legalization asap - we will see what happens. I doubt they would renege on this promise, they made it kind of central.
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Re: Liberals win a majority government (Canada) [Re: Patlal]
#22408608 - 10/20/15 10:11 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's not how it works in a parliamentary system. Everyone has to vote the same way - the way the party leader says they vote. If they don't, the government is dissolved and they call new elections.
Not at all how it works.
shoosh... he likes to believe he knows things, if you destroy his personal views he may cry again
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Re: Liberals win a majority government (Canada) [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
#22408614 - 10/20/15 10:14 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's not how it works in a parliamentary system. Everyone has to vote the same way - the way the party leader says they vote. If they don't, the government is dissolved and they call new elections.
you didnt say parliament, you said a majority government
Parliamentary system, Majority government.
in the US a majority government is one party or another, same with everywhere
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However 2 out of 3 official parties support legalization - so it seems to be how the country is headed. What I would like to see is immediate decriminalization and then legalization asap - we will see what happens. I doubt they would renege on this promise, they made it kind of central.
believe it when you push your elected officials into doing it, done wait for the 'inevitability' that may never come. BTW, decrim is stupidly retarded
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Re: Liberals win a majority government (Canada) [Re: sh4d0ws]
#22408620 - 10/20/15 10:16 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I congratulate Canada with electing what seems to be the lesser evil.
Keep your eyes on the puppetmasters though!
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Re: Liberals win a majority government (Canada) [Re: Prisoner#1] 1
#22408679 - 10/20/15 10:26 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's not how it works in a parliamentary system. Everyone has to vote the same way - the way the party leader says they vote. If they don't, the government is dissolved and they call new elections.
Not at all how it works.
shoosh... he likes to believe he knows things, if you destroy his personal views he may cry again
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Re: Liberals win a majority government (Canada) [Re: Prisoner#1] 2
#22409286 - 10/20/15 01:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yep I believe the time has finally come and Trudeau will legalize weed in the next few years.
I am and will continue to celebrate this for some time to come.
He may also implement proportional representation which would also be huge .
This is wonderful news for Canada. With such a strong majority he can easily follow through with his campaign promise to legalize especially since a few states have already blazed the trail and shown the benefits.
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Re: Liberals win a majority government (Canada) [Re: Asante]
#22409313 - 10/20/15 01:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Asante said: I congratulate Canada with electing what seems to be the lesser evil.
Keep your eyes on the puppetmasters though! 
That's the thing, who owns those people who got elected?
US voters learned their lesson 7 years ago with Obama, yet some still love his empty rhetoric.
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Re: Liberals win a majority government (Canada) [Re: qman] 1
#22409404 - 10/20/15 01:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Apparently Trudeau is far Less beholden to corporate masters then Obama and has far more autonomy and less puppet masters
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Re: Liberals win a majority government (Canada) [Re: qman]
#22409410 - 10/20/15 01:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah we'll have to wait and see what they actually get done. My hunch is that the legalization thing will go ahead, but Trudeau may well make a shitty PM in other respects.
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