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Re: im never having an orgasm e ver again [Re: moonrockmushy]
#22452933 - 10/30/15 09:57 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yea sure, nothing wrong with loving men. Just realize that if sex doesn't feel right with them, then it is the mental connection you enjoy with them and not the lust.
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Re: im never having an orgasm e ver again [Re: evenbreak]
#22453095 - 10/30/15 10:52 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well have fun cleaning your sheets every morning, OP I just get a frustrating feeling sometimes then realize oh I hadn't fapped in months.
BS abstaining makes you better
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Re: im never having an orgasm e ver again [Re: Beanhead]
#22453164 - 10/30/15 11:11 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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i'm not actually gay . i'm just horny as fuck, and if some really good looking guy with a 6pack started grabbing at me, i'm not sure how to feel is all im saying
but i am going to start meditating more. abstaining just to feel sexually frustrated will get me nowhere, the whole point of this is redirecting lust into higher energy
im serious guys. im not trolling or joking. im literally going to become a god in 10 years
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Re: im never having an orgasm e ver again [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22453257 - 10/30/15 11:42 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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makaveli8x8 said: you only lose that energy if you let it excape into a sock or down a drain somewhere. Thats why i bought a vacuum sealer, now i can start storing it and saving up all my energy
I got 2 of them! One white, one black
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Re: im never having an orgasm e ver again [Re: Fritzzthecat22]
#22453266 - 10/30/15 11:44 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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yah i made 2 huge pots of soup, vacuum sealed it all, freezer is packed to feed me for a month straight now
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Re: im never having an orgasm e ver again [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22453274 - 10/30/15 11:48 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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i ran the numbers and its like $2.50 per meal for the chili i made, and i still have enough meat to make it all again, so its closer to like $1.50 a meal. Then i made broccoli soup, that was like $1 a meal
next im gunna make a mushroom soup i think, then split pea, and then cream of potato/ham
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Re: im never having an orgasm e ver again [Re: makaveli8x8] 1
#22453328 - 10/30/15 11:59 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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talking about mushroom soup in an orgasm thread
and OP, you won't be a super saiyajin in 10 years, more like
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Re: im never having an orgasm e ver again [Re: JohnnieYen] 1
#27588344 - 12/20/21 01:36 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Can we get insight 6 years later please 😆
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Re: im never having an orgasm e ver again [Re: DragonTurtle]
#27588434 - 12/20/21 02:59 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah, guy has been reading the wrong Eastern books
Should have read that Japanese one about only having mental clarity after busting a nut (on as many females as possible)
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Re: im never having an orgasm e ver again [Re: Tripsurfer]
#27588731 - 12/20/21 07:42 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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tl;dr OP confused orgasm with ejaculation
Vama Marga and Kundalini Awakening The science of tantra has two main branches, which are known as vama marga and dakshina marga. Vama marga is the left hand path which combines sexual life with yoga practices in order to explode the dormant energy centres. Dakshina marga is the right path of yoga practices without sexual enactment. According to tantra, sexual life has a threefold purpose. Some practise it for procreation, others for pleasure, but the tantric yogi practices it for samadhi (the state of union with universal consciousness). He does not hold any negative views about it, he does it as a part of his sadhana (spiritual practice), but, at the same time, he realizes that for spiritual purposes, the experience must be maintained. Ordinarily this experience is lost before one is able to deepen it. By mastering certain techniques, however, this experience can become continuous even throughout daily life. Then the silent centres of the brain are awakened and start to function all the time.
The energy principle The contention of vama marga is that the awakening of kundalini (dormant potential energy) is possible through the sexual interaction between man and woman. The concept behind this follows the same lines as the process of fission and fusion described in modern physics. Man and woman represent positive and negative energy. On a mental level they represent time and space. Ordinarily, these two forces stand at opposite poles. During sexual interaction, however, they move out of their position of polarity, towards the centre. When they come together at the nucleus or central point, an explosion occurs and matter becomes manifest. This is the basic theme of tantric initiation.
The natural event that takes place between a man and woman is considered as the explosion of the energy centre. In every speck of life, the union between the positive and negative poles is responsible for creation. At the same time, union between the positive and negative poles is also responsible for enlightenment. The experience which takes place at the time of union is a glimpse of the higher experience. This subject has been thoroughly discussed in all the old scriptures of tantra. Actually, more important than the energy waves that are created during the mutual union, is the process of directing that energy to the higher centres. Everybody knows how this energy is created, but nobody knows how to direct it to the higher centres. In fact, very few people have a full and positive understanding of this natural event which almost everybody in the world experiences. If the conjugal experience, which is generally very transitory, could be extended for a period of time, then the experience of enlightenment would take place. The elements that are brought together in this process of union are known as Shiva and Shakti. Shiva represents purusha (consciousness) and Shakti represents prakriti (energy). Shakti, in different forms, is present in all creation. Both material and spiritual energy are known as Shakti. When the energy moves outwardly it is material energy and when it is directed upwards it is spiritual energy. Therefore, when the union between man and woman is practised in the correct way, it has a very positive influence on the development of spiritual awareness.
Retaining the bindu Bindu means a point or a drop. In tantra, bindu is considered to be the nucleus, or the abode of matter, the point from which all creation becomes manifest. The source of bindu is actually in the higher centres of the brain, but due to the development of emotions and passions, bindu falls down to the lower region where it is transformed into sperm and ova. At the higher level bindu is a point. At the lower level it is a drop of liquid, which drips from the male and female orgasm. According to tantra, the preservation of the bindu is absolutely necessary for two reasons. Firstly, the process of regeneration can only be carried out with the help of bindu. Secondly, all the spiritual experiences take place when there is an explosion of bindu. This explosion can result in the creation of a thought or of anything. Therefore, in tantra, certain practices are recommended by which the male partner can stop ejaculation and retain the bindu.
According to tantra, ejaculation should not take place. One should learn how to stop it. For this purpose, the male partner should perfect the practices of vajroli mudra as well as moola bandha and uddiyana bandha. When these three kriyas (practices) are perfected, one is able to stop ejaculation completely at any point of the experience. The sexual act culminates in a particular experience which is reached only at the point of explosion of energy. Unless the energy explodes, the experience cannot take place. However, this experience has to be maintained so that the energy level remains high. When the energy level falls, ejaculation takes place. Therefore, ejaculation is avoided, not so much to preserve the semen, but because it causes a depression in the level of energy. To make this energy travel upwards through the spine, certain hatha yoga kriyas have to be mastered. The experience which is concomitant of energy has to be raised to the higher centres. It is only possible to do this if you are able to prolong and maintain the experience. As long as the experience continues, you can direct it to the higher centres, but as soon as the energy level undergoes depression, ejaculation will inevitably take place.
Ejaculation brings down the temperature of the body and, at the same time, the nervous system undergoes depression. When the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous systems undergo depression, the brain is affected. When you are able to retain the semen without ejaculating at all, the energy in the nervous system and the temperature in the whole body are maintained. At the same time, you are free from the sense of loss, depression, frustration and guilt. Retention of the semen will also help to increase the sexual frequency, and that is better for both partners. The sexual act does not have to create weakness or dissipate the energy, on the contrary, it can become a means of exploding the energy. Therefore, the value of retaining the bindu should not be underestimated.
In hatha yoga there are certain practices which must be perfected for this purpose. You should begin with asanas (a steady and comfortable position of the body) such as paschimottanasana, shalabhasana, vajrasana, supta vajrasana and siddhasana. These are beneficial as they place an automatic contraction on the lower centres. Sirshasana is also important because it ventilates the brain so that all of one's experiences will be healthy. When these postures have been mastered, shambhavi mudra is perfected in order to hold the concentration steadily at bhrumadhya (the eyebrow centre). Then vajroli mudra has to be practiced together with moola bandha and uddiyana bandha with kumbhaka (breath retention). Practise of kumbhaka is necessary while the ejaculation is being held. Retention of the breathe and the bindu go hand in hand. Loss of kumbhaka is loss of bindu, and loss of bindu is loss of kumbhaka. During kumbhaka, when you are maintaining the experience, you should be able to direct it to the higher centres. If you are able to create an archetype of this experience, perhaps in the form of a serpent or a luminous continuity, then the result will be fantastic. So, in spiritual life bindu must be preserved at all costs.
The female experience In the female body, the point of concentration is at mooladhara chakra, which is situated at the cervix, just behind the opening of the uterus. This is the point where space and time unite and explode in the form of an experience. In ordinary language that experience is known as orgasm, but in the language of tantra it is called an awakening. In order to maintain the continuity of that experience, it is necessary for a build up of energy to take place at that particular bindu or point. Usually this does not happen because the explosion of energy dissipates throughout the body through the sexual orgasm. In order to avoid this happening, the woman must be able to hold her mind in absolute concentration on that particular point. The practice for this is known as sahajoli.
Sahajoli is actually concentration on the bindu, but this is very difficult. Therefore, the practice of sahajoli, which is the contraction of the vaginal as well as the uterine muscles, should be practised over a long period of time. Uddiyana bandha is always practised with external retention. It is important to be able to preform this in any position. Usually it is practised in siddha yoni asana, but one should be able to do it in vajrasana as well. When you practise uddiyana bandha, the other two bandhas - jalandhara and moola bandha, occur spontaneously. Years of practice will create a keen sense of concentration on the correct point in the body. This concentration is more mental in nature; however, since it is not possible to do it mentally one has to start from some physical point. If a woman is able to concentrate and maintain the continuity of the experience, she can awaken her energy to a high level.
According to tantra, there are two different areas of orgasm. One is in the nervous zone, which is the common experience for most women, and the other is in mooladhara chakra. When sahajoli is practised during maithuna (the act of sexual union), mooladhara chakra wakes up and the spiritual or tantric orgasm takes place. When the yogini is able to practise sahajoli for say five to fifteen minutes, she can retain the tantric orgasm for the same period of time. By retaining this experience, the flow of energy is reversed. Circulation of blood and sympathetic/parasympathetic forces move upward. At this point, she transcends normal consciousness and sees the light. That is how she enters the state of dhyana (deep meditation). Unless the woman is able to practise sahajoi, she will not be able to retain the impulses necessary for the tantric orgasm, and consequently she will have the nervous orgasm, which is short-lived and followed by dissatisfaction and exhaustion. So sahajoli is an extremely important practice for women. In uddiyana, nauli, naukasana, vajrasana and siddha yoni asana, sahajoli comes naturally.
Tantric guru Just as in the scheme of creation, Shakti is the creator and Shiva the witness of the whole game, in tantra the woman has the status of guru and the man of disciple. The tantric tradition is actually passed on from the woman to the man. In tantric practice, it is the woman who initiates. It is only by her power that the act of maithuna takes place. All the preliminaries are done by her. She puts the mark on the man's forehead and tells him where to meditate. In ordinary interaction the man takes the aggressive role and the woman participates, but in tantra they switch roles. The woman becomes the operator and the man her medium. She has to be able to arouse him. Then, at the right moment, she must create the bindu so he can practise vajroli. if the man loses his bindu, it means that the woman has failed to carry out her functions properly.
In tantra it is said that Shiva is incapable without Shakti. Shakti is the priestess. Therefore, when vama marga is practised, the man must have an absolutely tantric attitude towards the woman. He cannot behave with her as men generally do with other women. Ordinarily, when a man looks at a woman he becomes passionate, but during maithuna he should not. He should see her as the divine mother, Devi, and approach her with an attitude of devotion and surrender, not with lust.
The red and white bindu The power of the bindu has been known to mystics throughout the history of mankind. In tantra, each bindu, each particle of manifested existence is regarded as a centre of power or shakti. This shakti is an expression of the underlying substratum of static consciousness. The aim of the tantric system is to bring about a fusion of Shakti - the individual manifested power, with Shiva - the inert, underlying universal consciousness.
The bindu is the cosmic seed from which all things manifest and grow. It is often related to male sperm because from the tiny bindu of a single spermatozoon, joined with the minute female ovum, a new life grows. The act of conception is a perfect symbol of the principle of bindu. In fact, bindu is explained in these terms in many of the texts of tantric kundalini yoga. In the Yogachudamani Upanishad (verse 60) it says: "The bindu is of two types, white and red. The white is shukla (sperm) and the red is maharaj (menses)." Here the white bindu symbolizes Shiva, purusha or consciousness, and the red bindu symbolizes Shakti, prakriti or the power of manifestation. The white bindu lies in the bindu visarga and the red bindu is seated in mooladhara chakra. The purpose of tantra and yoga is to unite these two principles so that Shiva and Shakti become one.
The text continues (verse 61): "The red bindu is established in the sun; the white bindu in the moon. Their union is difficult." The sun represents pingala nadi and the moon represents ida. The two bindus symbolize the merging of the world of opposites, in terms of male and female. Out of their union results the ascent of kundalini. Again the text continues (verse 63): "When the red bindu (Shakti) moves upwards (the ascent of kundalini) by control of prana, it mixes with the white bindu (Shiva) and one becomes divine." All the systems of yoga control prana (life force) in one way or another to bring about this union. In some cases, it is through direct control, as in pranayama, while in other cases it is less direct. Nevertheless, the meeting of these two polarities, Shiva and Shakti, leads to superconsciousness. Verse 64 states: "He who realizes the essential oneness of the two bindus, when the red bindu merges with the white bindu, alone knows yoga."
Total union and the unfolding enlightenment Sahasrara is not a chakra as is often thought. Chakras are within the realm of the psyche. Consciousness manifests at different levels according to the chakra that is predominantly active. Sahasrara acts through nothing and yet again, it acts through everything. Sahasrara is parat-param (beyond the beyond) and yet it is right here. Sahasrara is the culmination of the progressive ascension through the different chakras. It is the crown of expanded awareness. The power of the chakras does not reside in the chakras themselves, but in sahasrara. The chakras are only switches. All the potential lies in sahasrara. The literal meaning of the word sahasrara is 'one thousand'. For this reason it is said to be a lotus with one thousand pedals. However, while literally meaning one thousand, the word sahasrara implies that its magnitude and significance is vast - in fact, unlimited. Therefore, sahasrara should more aptly be described as the lotus with an infinite number of pedals, usually said to be red or multicoloured.
Sahasrara is both nirakara (formless) and akara (with form), yet it is also beyond, and therefore untouched by form (nirvikara). It is shoonya (void). It is Brahman (ultimate reality). It is everything and nothing. Whatever we say about sahasrara will immediately limit and categorize it, even if we say it is infinite. It transcends logic, for logic compares one thing to another. Sahasrara is the totality, so what is there to compare it with? It transcends all concepts and yet it is the source of all concepts. It is the merging of consciousness and prana. Sahasrara is the culmination of yoga, the perfect merging.
When kundalini shakti reaches sahasrara, that is known as union between Shiva and Shakti, as sahasrara is said to be the abode of higher consciousness or Shiva. Union between Shiva and Shakti marks the beginning of a great experience. When this union takes place, samadhi (the moment of self-realization) begins. At this point the individual dies. I do not mean that physical death occurs; it is death of the experience of name and form. At this time you do not remember the 'I', the 'you' or the 'they'. The experience, the experienced and the experiencer are one and the same. The seer, seeing and seen are merged into a unified whole. In other words, there is no multiple or dual awareness remaining. There is only single awareness. When Shiva and Shakti unite, nothing remains, there is absolute silence. Shakti does not remain Shakti and Shiva is no more Shiva, both are mingled into one and they can no longer be identified as two different forces.
___ ___ ___ ___ ___As one opens the door with a key, so the yogi should open the gate to liberation with the kundalini. The great goddess sleeps, closing with her mouth, the opening through which one can ascend to the brahmarandhra... to that place where there is neither pain nor suffering. The kundalini sleeps above the kanda... she gives liberation to the yogi and bondage to the fool. He who knows kundalini, knows yoga. The kundalini, it is said, is coiled like a serpent. He who can induce her to move is liberated.Hatha Yoga Pradipika (ch.3 v.105-111)
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Re: im never having an orgasm e ver again [Re: DragonTurtle]
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DragonTurtle said: Can we get insight 6 years later please 😆
 Arize!! & depress everybody.
There’s a lot of people in this thread that aren't here anymore. You picked the most emotionally booby-trapped thread possible for your necromancy.
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Re: im never having an orgasm e ver again [Re: lowbrow]
#27588754 - 12/20/21 07:58 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sorry, I just wanted to know if he ever reached a state of enlightenment through his efforts or backed away from it once he found a significant other to explore with internally. No ill intentions.
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Re: im never having an orgasm e ver again [Re: DragonTurtle]
#27588783 - 12/20/21 08:25 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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DragonTurtle said: Sorry, I just wanted to know if he ever reached a state of enlightenment through his efforts or backed away from it once he found a significant other to explore with internally. No ill intentions.
I ain’t holding it against ya, shit happens.
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Re: im never having an orgasm e ver again [Re: lowbrow]
#27590887 - 12/22/21 04:13 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Im not op but still having orgasms or ejaculating, not much has changed.
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Re: im never having an orgasm e ver again [Re: evenbreak]
#27591353 - 12/23/21 01:29 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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I had a dream recently that I couldn't cum no matter what. In the dream there were different scenes, like me masturbating or having sex or whatever, and I just couln't cum in the dream. Since then I've been beating it more just to make sure it works and it totally does.
I couldn't imagine never cumming ever again. My genital and lower abdomen region would become burning hot and I would start getting hard out of nowhere in the middle of the day and I would want to rape anything with a hole. I have to get off at least once every 2 or 3 days or else.
Edited by OutsideOfMyMind (12/23/21 01:30 AM)
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