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Ogla
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estimated yield?
#22406829 - 10/20/15 12:15 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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As I'm preparing to sacrifice these cuttings here, minus the pup bulbs at the bottom, can't help but wonder how much mescaline might I yield from this. Any idea?
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WChef
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Re: estimated yield? [Re: Ogla]
#22406927 - 10/20/15 12:42 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Cacti vary hugely in mescaline content even within a soecies, so what species it is matters even more. That being said, it looks like you've got more than enough for a good trip no matter the species or its strength.
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Ogla
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Re: estimated yield? [Re: WChef]
#22406940 - 10/20/15 12:44 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just one trip?
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Re: estimated yield? [Re: Ogla]
#22406959 - 10/20/15 12:51 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Depends on the species. For a weak San Pedro, probably only a few. For something stronger, obviously much more.
I believe bridesii and peyote itself are the only cacti with reliable mescaline contents, all the others are dependent upon the specimen and question and you'll never know how much mescaline is present until you try it.
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#22406961 - 10/20/15 12:52 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Id say you have about 3-4 moderate doses.
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Its about a ft per dose. (12")
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WChef
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Fantastic Mr. Fox said: Its about a ft per dose. (12")
Unless you have identified the cacti in question, that is just a guess.
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Re: estimated yield? [Re: WChef]
#22406976 - 10/20/15 12:57 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I feel like you need more extract to get the experience you do from brewing tea of the same cutting. Two good doses if it all goes to plan!
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Ogla
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Re: estimated yield? [Re: satch1234]
#22406996 - 10/20/15 01:05 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's San Pedro and I plan of making tea and going straight to base. I've got more, but these ones were rotting in back so figure I should use them. Got probably 2xs as much. More healthier looking ones too
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Re: estimated yield? [Re: Ogla]
#22408468 - 10/20/15 09:41 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Have you tried this cactus before?
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Ogla
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Re: estimated yield? [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#22409445 - 10/20/15 01:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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ya
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Re: estimated yield? [Re: WChef]
#22409598 - 10/20/15 02:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
WChef said:
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Fantastic Mr. Fox said: Its about a ft per dose. (12")
Unless you have identified the cacti in question, that is just a guess.
And I have found that you need more than just a foot with Pedro
Maybe mine was weak tho
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Re: estimated yield? [Re: Ogla]
#22409691 - 10/20/15 02:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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losfreddy said: ya
If you tried this cactus before why do you ask for advice on dosage? Have I missed something?
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SnowDaze
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Yeah I don't get that ... Wouldn't be know how much he needed before and then just do that math from that roughly?? Seems like he could estimate better than us since potency varies
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Ogla
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Re: estimated yield? [Re: SnowDaze]
#22411064 - 10/20/15 08:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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well, we'll find out soon enough
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Re: estimated yield? [Re: Ogla]
#22411417 - 10/20/15 09:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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For me that would be enough for at least two very strong trips or 4 or 5 milder trips. But thats assuming they are decently potent.
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Let us know what you get
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Ogla
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Re: estimated yield? [Re: SnowDaze]
#22411558 - 10/20/15 10:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Might add another 2-3 feet. According to you guys, I shouldn't expect much from this on a brighter note, I grafted some lophophora bulbs to a couple of those pups
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Ogla
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Re: estimated yield? [Re: Ogla]
#22419673 - 10/22/15 06:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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so i chopped 2 of those arms up. One was pulverized in a magic bullet type device. It nearly topped out my pressure cooker. Im bringing it up to heat. If it boils and doesnt boil over, imma pressure cook it for like 30 minutes. Otherwise ill simmer awhile and strain. This shits a hassle on the cool. Fuck it thou. Gonna be up all night tonight
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Ogla
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Re: estimated yield? [Re: Ogla]
#22420283 - 10/22/15 08:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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OK, well i feel like im in over my head. The PC got up to temp and PCed about 30 min. The problem is i simply have too much and not enough supplies. I have i pot filled to brim with chopped cacti (2nd round and i added 5 extra feet), i filtered half of what was in the PC and have a limish green tea that i wanna bottle but i dont have any more jugs and im out of pots. Im attempting to boil down what i have but thats gonna take awhile. Need to get this 2nd batch going. Calling on neighbors and friends lend supplies. LOL. I need gallon jugs at the least. Thats what would save me right now
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Re: estimated yield? [Re: Ogla]
#22420332 - 10/22/15 09:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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A gallon jug? Do you have some recycles laying around?
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satch1234
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Boil that down in a couple pots man!
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Ogla
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Re: estimated yield? [Re: Ogla]
#22420439 - 10/22/15 09:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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ok, im situated. Heres a pic of process. On left is PC to cook the rest.. on front right is tea to be boiled down. Must boil down to roughly 1/2 gallon - gallon.. probably gonna take another 4-5 hours damn!
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Re: estimated yield? [Re: Ogla]
#22420534 - 10/22/15 09:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nice good luck man, you can boil the hell out of it too.
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Ogla
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Re: estimated yield? [Re: Ogla]
#22420720 - 10/22/15 10:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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are you really supposed to add vinegar to help it when boiling?
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Re: estimated yield? [Re: Ogla]
#22421219 - 10/23/15 01:27 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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losfreddy said: are you really supposed to add vinegar to help it when boiling?
Nah, fuck it. Not necessary.
Just seeing all this delicious cacti tea of yours made me crave for some...
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Ogla
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yessir. I added the 2nd batch and also did a small 2nd extract with the leftover and boiled everything to about 1.5 gallons. Took the leftovers and threw in compost pile and mixed with potting soil. Compost also has leftover casings and stuff. Think imma make a few pots and plant some sleepy grass. Wonder if the cacti compost will have any benefits
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Re: estimated yield? [Re: Ogla]
#22421298 - 10/23/15 02:29 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Leave the tea to sit in the fridge overnight once you have it down to a manageable volume, all the sediment will fall to the bottom.
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Ogla
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Re: estimated yield? [Re: satch1234]
#22451958 - 10/30/15 01:11 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Work in progress, currently on 3rd pull. Notice my makeshift cork for use as sep funnel. Is working nice and alot less messier than a turkey baster. The patron bottle is my aqueous hcl
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Re: estimated yield? [Re: Ogla]
#22452078 - 10/30/15 02:18 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nice, you using limonene? Did that first salting pull some color through? If so I recommend evaping that pull separately from the future saltings, as I had some problem with limonene contamination,
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Ogla
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Re: estimated yield? [Re: satch1234]
#22452118 - 10/30/15 02:50 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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nah. im using hydroxide, xylene and muriatic acid. Plan to clean with acetone. Heres an update after 5 pulls? lost count. I wanna do a couple more pulls but im tired tonight. I would if i didnt have to work tomorrow. But i really wanna get as much out as possible. Did after all sacrifice 15 feet or so of pedro. And i have another half gallon of tea in the freezer to be used when ready. I know theres a tad bit of xylene in there, but i think the extras will get washed with the acetone. Obviously my intent is to get as clean as possible. No rush, taking my time on this one. I wanna get it right
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Re: estimated yield? [Re: Ogla]
#22452141 - 10/30/15 03:13 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ooooo yeah looks sweet dude!
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Re: estimated yield? [Re: satch1234]
#22453600 - 10/30/15 01:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ogla
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it doesnt look as impressive today. I kept it under a small heat lamp overnight. It doesnt smell of xylene at all. Instead, it seems the cloudless has dissipated evenly throughout the aqueous hcl instead of all floating at the top like in the photo above. Im left with about 3 cms or so of water. Im debating wether it'll be a good idea or not to stick in the stove. Dont wanna ruin it. Like i said before, i wanna take my time. Sucks Halloween is tomorrow. At least i got some lucy thou
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