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Convince me why guns are bad for America * 2
    #22405941 - 10/19/15 10:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: WileyWilly]
    #22405953 - 10/19/15 10:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: WileyWilly]
    #22405965 - 10/19/15 10:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

its hit me with your best shot..

good god man get it straight.


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: rackem] * 1
    #22405971 - 10/19/15 10:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

anyone who advocates gun control is a fucking fascist


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: hTx]
    #22405987 - 10/19/15 10:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

agreed.


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: rackem] * 1
    #22406026 - 10/19/15 10:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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its hit me with your best shot..

good god man get it straight.




I hate Pat Benatar:mad:


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: WileyWilly]
    #22406033 - 10/19/15 10:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Love is a battlefield, so don't bring any guns.


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: koods] * 1
    #22406039 - 10/19/15 10:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

love is overated.

bring guns.. a shit load of guns, with a side of tannerite.


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: hTx] * 1
    #22406069 - 10/19/15 10:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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anyone who advocates gun control is a fucking fascist




Anyone against it supports school shootings.


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: my3rdeye] * 7
    #22406290 - 10/19/15 11:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

shutup your from canada.

your opinion on bearing arms does not matter nor count.


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: my3rdeye] * 1
    #22406341 - 10/19/15 11:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Wow. Amazing. Ya'll love thinking for others.


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: my3rdeye]
    #22406363 - 10/19/15 11:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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my3rdeye said:
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hTx said:
anyone who advocates gun control is a fucking fascist




Anyone against it supports school shootings.



:rolleyes:


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: hTx] * 1
    #22406374 - 10/19/15 11:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Typical American attitude. Someone else has figured out a better way and we don't listen.


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: hTx] * 2
    #22406383 - 10/19/15 11:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Our opinion is valid because we can say that school shootings don't happen here. No gun culture. Its not the whole story. But its a big part of it.


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Psilosopherr] * 1
    #22406395 - 10/19/15 11:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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rbalzer said:
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my3rdeye said:
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hTx said:
anyone who advocates gun control is a fucking fascist




Anyone against it supports school shootings.



:rolleyes:




No they just put their own lust for guns above the good of society.


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: theRAPeutic]
    #22406500 - 10/19/15 11:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: koods] * 2
    #22406604 - 10/19/15 11:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

guns are fun.. you should try them sometime

right around the .36 mark start watching.

and really??? society?? society doesnt give a fuck about you.. why the hell should gun owners?

hollywood doesnt give a fuck about you.. but sense you give a fuck about them the game should change?

not a chance.


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: koods] * 2
    #22406617 - 10/19/15 11:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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rbalzer said:
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hTx said:
anyone who advocates gun control is a fucking fascist




Anyone against it supports school shootings.



:rolleyes:




No they just put their own lust for guns above the good of society.




Do you think we like guns because they are cool? That's not why I carry one everyday. I carry it for the 1% chance that I may need it someday.
Anybody remember the mass shooting that never was because of the vice principal that had a .45? October 1st 1997 Pearl, Mississippi.


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: zZZz] * 1
    #22406621 - 10/19/15 11:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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op is most likely an ex-member of the shroomery




I'm taking that as a compliment. Thank you. Makes me feel... adept.


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: WileyWilly]
    #22406631 - 10/19/15 11:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I think Guns are awesome unfortunately I live in Australia so they are very rare but our gun control seems to work with tens of people killed by them each year compared to the around 16000 deaths in the US. We have magazine limit sizes so we can only have 10 rounds in a magazine no semi automatic rifles or shotguns or pump actions and the highest caliber is a 357 Mag. Yeah Australia sucks for that


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: rackem] * 1
    #22406642 - 10/19/15 11:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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rackem said:
guns are fun.. you should try them sometime

right around the .36 mark start watching.

and really??? society?? society doesnt give a fuck about you.. why the hell should gun owners?

hollywood doesnt give a fuck about you.. but sense you give a fuck about them the game should change?

not a chance.




I have NRA marksmanship award somewhere. Back before they turned into the most corrosive political entity in America.


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: rackem]
    #22406651 - 10/19/15 11:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Don't mind the fake accent




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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: koods]
    #22406653 - 10/19/15 11:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Love is a battlefield, so don't bring any guns.





with all the woman cutting mens dicks off... fuck that, I'm bringing grenades too


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: WileyWilly] * 1
    #22406663 - 10/19/15 11:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Anybody remember the mass shooting that never was because of the vice principal that had a .45? October 1st 1997 Pearl, Mississippi.




Anybody remember all the mass shootings that happened because of guns? Wow. One that didn't happen. Great track record there.

You don't need a gun. I've lived in far worse neighborhoods than you will ever live in and I've have never once needed one.


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: hTx] * 1
    #22406665 - 10/19/15 11:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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shutup your from canada.

your opinion on bearing arms does not matter nor count.




Stop being the source country for black market guns in mexico and canada and I will be glad to! As it stands now you people don't seem to be smart enough to keep your guns safe.


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: koods]
    #22406670 - 10/19/15 11:29 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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koods said:
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guns are fun.. you should try them sometime

right around the .36 mark start watching.

and really??? society?? society doesnt give a fuck about you.. why the hell should gun owners?

hollywood doesnt give a fuck about you.. but sense you give a fuck about them the game should change?

not a chance.




I have NRA marksmanship award somewhere. Back before they turned into the most corrosive political entity in America.





dude... the NRA isnt the 'progressives', now stop riding hillary's dick


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: koods]
    #22406673 - 10/19/15 11:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Anybody remember the mass shooting that never was because of the vice principal that had a .45? October 1st 1997 Pearl, Mississippi.




Anybody remember all the mass shootings that happened because of guns? Wow. One that didn't happen. Great track record there.

You don't need a gun. I've lived in far worse neighborhoods than you will ever live in and I've have never once needed one.





ok... so dont have a gun, it's as easy as that


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22406714 - 10/19/15 11:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

If there were students walking around with CHL licenses on campus, and a would-be school shooter pulls out his gun around those that are armed, i guarantee he won't injure nor kill near as many people as he would if nobody was armed because someone would shoot him.


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: hTx] * 1
    #22406727 - 10/19/15 11:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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If there were students walking around with CHL licenses on campus, and a would-be school shooter pulls out his gun around those that are armed, i guarantee he won't injure nor kill near as many people as he would if nobody was armed because someone would shoot him.





back in the 80s one of the first mall shootings was stopped by someone that was
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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: koods]
    #22406732 - 10/19/15 11:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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WileyWilly said:
Anybody remember the mass shooting that never was because of the vice principal that had a .45? October 1st 1997 Pearl, Mississippi.




Anybody remember all the mass shootings that happened because of guns? Wow. One that didn't happen. Great track record there.

You don't need a gun. I've lived in far worse neighborhoods than you will ever live in and I've have never once needed one.




You have no idea where I have been. There you go! Trying to read minds again!
That was just the first one I thought of. I wonder how many of the guns used in mass shootings are purchased legally...


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22406734 - 10/19/15 11:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

shocking..

dude has a gun knows how to use it and actually uses it.. oh thats the 80's before all this political brainwashed bullshit came to light


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22406743 - 10/19/15 11:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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hTx said:
If there were students walking around with CHL licenses on campus, and a would-be school shooter pulls out his gun around those that are armed, i guarantee he won't injure nor kill near as many people as he would if nobody was armed because someone would shoot him.





back in the 80s one of the first mall shootings was stopped by someone that was
armed, the guy waled into the food court and opened fire, someone that was armed
drew his gun and returned fire killing the assailant




Would-be mass shootings are deterred more often than the common public realizes.


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: hTx] * 2
    #22406746 - 10/19/15 11:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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If there were students walking around with CHL licenses on campus, and a would-be school shooter pulls out his gun around those that are armed, i guarantee he won't injure nor kill near as many people as he would if nobody was armed because someone would shoot him.



You want a fucking shootout in a classroom? Brilliant.

Just n the past three weeks I've read about two people arrested for shooting up two different parking lots trying to take down shoplifters (unsuccessfully). In Texas, a "hero" witnessed a carjacking and decided to help with his gun and ended up shooting the carjack victim in the head. People are not responsible enough to be carrying around deadly weapons.

There was a guy who tried to stop the mass shooting at the Louisville recruiting center and he completely missed. It's fucking bullshit that a good guy with a gun is what it takes to stop a bad gun with a gun. Even if it would happen,it would only be after a half dozen people were already shot. The problem is people have guns in the first place.


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22406751 - 10/19/15 11:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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hTx said:
If there were students walking around with CHL licenses on campus, and a would-be school shooter pulls out his gun around those that are armed, i guarantee he won't injure nor kill near as many people as he would if nobody was armed because someone would shoot him.





back in the 80s one of the first mall shootings was stopped by someone that was
armed, the guy waled into the food court and opened fire, someone that was armed
drew his gun and returned fire killing the assailant



Back in the 80s. So this happens what every three decades? How many people were shot before the guy took out the shooter? No matter how you slice it, at least one person is probably gonna be shot before a hero could take out the shooter. At best you are just reducing the number of people killed, instead of solving the problem. Meanwhile you need an army of mostly nutty (stable rational people don't tend to carry a gun around with them) ipeople hoping to stop a mass shooting who are meanwhile shooting carjack victims in the head and shooting up parking lots.


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: hTx]
    #22406757 - 10/19/15 11:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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hTx said:
If there were students walking around with CHL licenses on campus, and a would-be school shooter pulls out his gun around those that are armed, i guarantee he won't injure nor kill near as many people as he would if nobody was armed because someone would shoot him.




Some people would rather attend a campus with no wild west shoot outs. It's not like you are in any way trained for responding to a shooting. You are as much a danger to the other students as the shooter.


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: koods]
    #22406759 - 10/19/15 11:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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WileyWilly said:
Anybody remember the mass shooting that never was because of the vice principal that had a .45? October 1st 1997 Pearl, Mississippi.




Anybody remember all the mass shootings that happened because of guns? Wow. One that didn't happen. Great track record there.

You don't need a gun. I've lived in far worse neighborhoods than you will ever live in and I've have never once needed one.




and do u know y u've never needed one?,

cuz the other people who did need one had one..

truth is, guns are a problem, but it's only problematic cuz stupid, evil, people have em.

it's just weapons in general that are problematic.

we can't get rid of them, not in this century, and probably not in the next. unless there's like some miracle where the whole world blows up and melts all the weapons..

i see only one solution to these problems;

give the smart, good people, guns. arm them, arm them all, teach everyone how to probably use them, including the kids, from preschool all the way to university, teach em the dangers n shit. if we dont, some thug on the street will.

just like drugs, the only true harm is there not being enough information about them. they should be teaching kids about them since birth, tell em everything, not just scare them into not doing them. tell em they feel good and many people use them to escape, and the consequences of these actions, stuff like that.

then u'll probably say something like, "well if that's the case why not just teach children how to use drugs?", cuz that'll just be stupid, besides this thread isnt about drugs, it;s about guns.

7's the key number here. Think about it. 7-Elevens. 7 dwarves. 7, man, that's the number. 7 chipmunks twirlin' on a branch, eatin' lots of sunflowers on my uncle's ranch. You know that old children's tale from the sea. It's like you're dreamin' about Gorgonzola cheese when it's clearly Brie time, baby. Step into my office.

why?..

cuz u're fuckin fired!


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: koods] * 1
    #22406768 - 10/19/15 11:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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hTx said:
If there were students walking around with CHL licenses on campus, and a would-be school shooter pulls out his gun around those that are armed, i guarantee he won't injure nor kill near as many people as he would if nobody was armed because someone would shoot him.



You want a fucking shootout in a classroom? Brilliant.





so tell us koodsie... did teachers being unarmed stop the shooting at sandy hook?

I mean that was pretty much a shooting gallery, like fish in a barrel only it was
children which you clearly dispise since you want to protect the killers and
prevent people from defending the kids

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Just n the past three weeks I've read about two people arrested for shooting up two different parking lots trying to take down shoplifters (unsuccessfully).






in the past couple of days I've read about 6 homosexuals molesting children, we
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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22406789 - 10/20/15 12:03 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Guns arnt bad, its the way the american media plasters them all over the news for weeks that draws them to kill. Instant fame, shock and awe every time one goes on a killing spree. Its fucking sick the way your media turns them into superstars.


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: my3rdeye]
    #22406790 - 10/20/15 12:03 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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hTx said:
If there were students walking around with CHL licenses on campus, and a would-be school shooter pulls out his gun around those that are armed, i guarantee he won't injure nor kill near as many people as he would if nobody was armed because someone would shoot him.





back in the 80s one of the first mall shootings was stopped by someone that was
armed, the guy waled into the food court and opened fire, someone that was armed
drew his gun and returned fire killing the assailant



Back in the 80s. So this happens what every three decades? How many people were shot before the guy took out the shooter? No matter how you slice it, at least one person is probably gonna be shot before a hero could take out the shooter. At best you are just reducing the number of people killed, instead of solving the problem. Meanwhile you need an army of mostly nutty (stable rational people don't tend to carry a gun around with them) ipeople hoping to stop a mass shooting who are meanwhile shooting carjack victims in the head and shooting up parking lots.[/q
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If there were students walking around with CHL licenses on campus, and a would-be school shooter pulls out his gun around those that are armed, i guarantee he won't injure nor kill near as many people as he would if nobody was armed because someone would shoot him.




Some people would rather attend a campus with no wild west shoot outs. It's not like you are in any way trained for responding to a shooting. You are as much a danger to the other students as the shooter.




Who? Me? A very vast majority of gun owners are responsible individuals. How do you know who is trained and who is not? Don't forget, its about the freedom. I do not infringe on anyone's freedom by carrying a gun.


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    #22406792 - 10/20/15 12:03 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Youre terrible at comparing things.


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    #22406795 - 10/20/15 12:05 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

at least we have superstars :snub:

what do u have?, u have fuckin justin beiber.

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    #22406798 - 10/20/15 12:06 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Guns don't equal freedom. How free are you if you are afraid to leave your house without one? that's not freedom. That's being a slave to a chunk of metal.


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    #22406802 - 10/20/15 12:07 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

i think just having one safely stored somewhere, and knowing how to use them properly, and the dangers n shit, should be sufficient.


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    #22406812 - 10/20/15 12:10 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

ALL destructive deadly weapons are a good thing in my mind because I'm so cynical and bitter against the human race that I want it to destroy itself Guns are similar to bombs in that they should only be allowed to be handled by people with serious training and that includes making it illegal to sell guns to people with no relevant credentials over the internet.


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    #22406818 - 10/20/15 12:12 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Its the people who know how to use them that often cause the most damage to society as a whole. The army isnt out there saving lives.


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    #22406832 - 10/20/15 12:15 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Hopefully, gun shops will start having to pay damages for selling guns without due diligence. how did the aurora shooter order 4000 billets no questions asked? People that want to buy enough weaponry to shoot up more than their household should be required to get a permit and pay insurance to cover the medical expenses of the people they could potentially kill.


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    #22406842 - 10/20/15 12:18 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

but i mean who the fuck wants peace nowadays?, surely not the gov, where's the fun in that?..

no prisons, no one to shoot, nothing to make the cops dick hard. fuck that!

the fuckin cia unleashed crack into the poor neighborhoods back in the 80's, what does that say about our govs?..

we need jails, we need violence, chaos, u name it. we need blood to feed the machine!. that's why alcohol is legal and weed is not..


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    #22406845 - 10/20/15 12:19 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Youre terrible at comparing things.




I use the same measure for comparison that you use the only difference is that the numbers are on my side

ready to ban homosexuals and doctards yet?


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    #22406849 - 10/20/15 12:22 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Guns don't equal freedom. How free are you if you are afraid to leave your house without one? that's not freedom. That's being a slave to a chunk of metal.





in guatamala guns are illegal... they're afraid to leave their house, when
they leave their house it's to come to the US... why is that, are they
slaves to the guns or slaves because they cant defend themselves against
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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: koods] * 1
    #22406855 - 10/20/15 12:23 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Hopefully, gun shops will start having to pay damages for selling guns without due diligence. how did the aurora shooter order 4000 billets no questions asked? People that want to buy enough weaponry to shoot up more than their household should be required to get a permit and pay insurance to cover the medical expenses of the people they could potentially kill.






is every retailer required to do due diligence?


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Guns don't equal freedom. How free are you if you are afraid to leave your house without one? that's not freedom. That's being a slave to a chunk of metal.





in guatamala guns are illegal... they're afraid to leave their house, when
they leave their house it's to come to the US... why is that, are they
slaves to the guns or slaves because they cant defend themselves against
the criminals that have guns




You ever notice that when you make comparisons to other countries, it's places like Guatemala or Zimbabwe, and I when I make comparisons it's to places like Canada and Australia. :cookiemonster:


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    #22406922 - 10/20/15 12:41 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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koods said:
Guns don't equal freedom. How free are you if you are afraid to leave your house without one? that's not freedom. That's being a slave to a chunk of metal.





in guatamala guns are illegal... they're afraid to leave their house, when
they leave their house it's to come to the US... why is that, are they
slaves to the guns or slaves because they cant defend themselves against
the criminals that have guns




You ever notice that when you make comparisons to other countries, it's places like Guatemala or Zimbabwe, and I when I make comparisons it's to places like Canada and Australia. :cookiemonster:





kinda strange that when you make those references you dont discuss that those
places have an increasing violent crime rate or that gun control hasnt stopped
mass murders from happening in those countries or that the mass murders are now
far more gruesome

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cairns_child_killings
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quakers_Hill,_New_South_Wales#Nursing_home_fire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lin_family_murders
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Saturday_bushfires#Central_Gippsland_fires
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Childers_Palace_Backpackers_Hostel_fire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowtown_murders

you also havent said that there arent any shootings in these countries even
though they've banned guns in australia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monash_University_shooting


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    #22406937 - 10/20/15 12:43 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Then why does the States lead the GLOBE in mass shootings?


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    #22406943 - 10/20/15 12:46 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Then why does the States lead the GLOBE in mass shootings?





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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: koods]
    #22406950 - 10/20/15 12:47 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Guns don't equal freedom. How free are you if you are afraid to leave your house without one? that's not freedom. That's being a slave to a chunk of metal.




Your just as free as you are if you are not afraid to leave your house with out one.

You could also say you are just as free as if you had the faith to leave your house with one. Or without.
It seem's your implying that you can't have faith and leave your house with one.

Faith is the same as Fear but in the other direction.

Or you may be implying it as simply an emotion. On that standpoint I would not call faith an emotion.. that's all opinions on this message board tho.

I guess I have to stay with "Your just as free as you are if you are not afraid to leave your house with out one." Yea.. ill stick with that.

I know..or at least I think you mean gun's don't equal freedom in the hands of civilians right? Because you take away the guns from our military.. watch who's flags will be flying by tomorrow morning.. it wont be the USA's.


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Dr.Wongburger] * 2
    #22406954 - 10/20/15 12:50 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

i'll bet op is :whacker: to this thread cuz of how it's turning out

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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: koods]
    #22407015 - 10/20/15 01:20 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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If there were students walking around with CHL licenses on campus, and a would-be school shooter pulls out his gun around those that are armed, i guarantee he won't injure nor kill near as many people as he would if nobody was armed because someone would shoot him.



You want a fucking shootout in a classroom? Brilliant.

Just n the past three weeks I've read about two people arrested for shooting up two different parking lots trying to take down shoplifters (unsuccessfully). In Texas, a "hero" witnessed a carjacking and decided to help with his gun and ended up shooting the carjack victim in the head. People are not responsible enough to be carrying around deadly weapons.

There was a guy who tried to stop the mass shooting at the Louisville recruiting center and he completely missed. It's fucking bullshit that a good guy with a gun is what it takes to stop a bad gun with a gun. Even if it would happen,it would only be after a half dozen people were already shot. The problem is people have guns in the first place.



Do you honestly think making guns illegal will keep them off the streets?
It would just create a highly profitable black market and leave the innocent majority unarmed and unprotected. Any time people begin talking about gun control I get very wary for this reason, it seems they are forgetting the big picture. If someone is determined enough to shoot up a school, I'm pretty sure they would be determined enough to obtain a gun through whatever illegal means possible, if not having done so already.

There isn't much research (there is some you just have to look for it) regarding gun control and genocide, however, from what credible sources I could find there remains one glaring fact, and that is gun control laws were enacted shortly before and/or during periods of genocide by an oppressive government...I'm not saying this is whats going on its just something to think about.

Our forefathers made the right to bear arms our 2nd amendment for a reason, its important for the people to protect against potential tyranny, just as they did against the british...

But its especially important to note that if this really becomes to big of an issue, there will likely be some sort of civil war.

So the push to create less violence could actually spawn the bloodiest war of all time.

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    #22407032 - 10/20/15 01:29 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I think our real problem isnt with guns, but with violence.


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22407051 - 10/20/15 01:39 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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in guatamala guns are illegal... they're afraid to leave their house, when
they leave their house it's to come to the US... why is that, are they
slaves to the guns or slaves because they cant defend themselves against
the criminals that have guns




All those illegal guns in Guatamala came from the USA. If they had good neighboring nations where people are responsible this wouldn't happen. These other places don't get their illegal guns from Narnia.


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    #22407503 - 10/20/15 07:10 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Guns are bad for America because there is more nobility in being a victim than being a survivor, or so its being said.

Right koods and third eye?

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shutup your from canada.

your opinion on bearing arms does not matter nor count.




Stop being the source country for black market guns in mexico and canada and I will be glad to! As it stands now you people don't seem to be smart enough to keep your guns safe.




By this logic Americans proximity to Canada makes them whiny and soft, Americans proximity to Mexico makes them lazy and entitled.


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    #22407698 - 10/20/15 08:29 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Guns are awesome!


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: ManianFH]
    #22407734 - 10/20/15 08:38 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

anti gun people

And if everyone goes out to buy guns when they don't really even need them in the first place then we have extra guns lying around waiting to be picked up by crazy people. You want everyone to have the option to buy a gun, you don't want every single person family you know having a gun


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    #22407735 - 10/20/15 08:38 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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in guatamala guns are illegal... they're afraid to leave their house, when
they leave their house it's to come to the US... why is that, are they
slaves to the guns or slaves because they cant defend themselves against
the criminals that have guns




All those illegal guns in Guatamala came from the USA. If they had good neighboring nations where people are responsible this wouldn't happen. These other places don't get their illegal guns from Narnia.





right... it's always the fault of the US, it couldnt possibly the the fault of
their own government that's more corrupt than canadians are dumb

is canada's guns and crime problems also the fault of the US?


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: ManianFH]
    #22407736 - 10/20/15 08:39 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

There's nothing wrong with guns. American society is the problem. So many idiots everywhere and you're bound to end up with someone being shot.


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Shooting out in the desert is so fun. Almost went again this month but gonna have to wait till March.


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    #22408068 - 10/20/15 08:53 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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koods said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
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koods said:
Guns don't equal freedom. How free are you if you are afraid to leave your house without one? that's not freedom. That's being a slave to a chunk of metal.





in guatamala guns are illegal... they're afraid to leave their house, when
they leave their house it's to come to the US... why is that, are they
slaves to the guns or slaves because they cant defend themselves against
the criminals that have guns




You ever notice that when you make comparisons to other countries, it's places like Guatemala or Zimbabwe, and I when I make comparisons it's to places like Canada and Australia. :cookiemonster:





kinda strange that when you make those references you dont discuss that those
places have an increasing violent crime rate or that gun control hasnt stopped
mass murders from happening in those countries or that the mass murders are now
far more gruesome

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cairns_child_killings
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quakers_Hill,_New_South_Wales#Nursing_home_fire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lin_family_murders
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Saturday_bushfires#Central_Gippsland_fires
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Childers_Palace_Backpackers_Hostel_fire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowtown_murders

you also havent said that there arent any shootings in these countries even
though they've banned guns in australia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monash_University_shooting




So you're looking for perfection or nothing?

Might as well eat at McDonald's every day or have sex with aids infested whores... You're gonna die eventually anyways.


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Konyap]
    #22408230 - 10/20/15 09:00 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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anti gun people

And if everyone goes out to buy guns when they don't really even need them in the first place then we have extra guns lying around waiting to be picked up by crazy people. You want everyone to have the option to buy a gun, you don't want every single person family you know having a gun




Everyone who's legally allowed to a gun should be able to get one. Those people will do the right thing, lock them up when not in use, keep out of the reach of children and act like responsible citizens.

Gums dont just "lie around", unless there in the possession of criminals or idiots.

You know how criminals get the lions share of guns? They steal them.

Stop criminality. Not legal responsible firearm ownership.


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: koods]
    #22408443 - 10/20/15 09:35 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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kinda strange that when you make those references you dont discuss that those
places have an increasing violent crime rate or that gun control hasnt stopped
mass murders from happening in those countries or that the mass murders are now
far more gruesome

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cairns_child_killings
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quakers_Hill,_New_South_Wales#Nursing_home_fire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lin_family_murders
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Saturday_bushfires#Central_Gippsland_fires
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Childers_Palace_Backpackers_Hostel_fire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowtown_murders

you also havent said that there arent any shootings in these countries even
though they've banned guns in australia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monash_University_shooting




So you're looking for perfection or nothing?

Might as well eat at McDonald's every day or have sex with aids infested whores... You're gonna die eventually anyways.





you're telling me that I dont need to protect myself, who is supposed to provide
the protection for the general public against those sort of people, people like
yourself and democrat voters such as this... will the police be the ones to
protect me? do you believe that dianne fienstien claim that that if no one has
guns that criminals will simply lay their guns down and turn themselves in
because that's human nature? tell us, who will protect the public from the criminals



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    #22408447 - 10/20/15 09:36 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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You know how criminals get the lions share of guns? They steal them.

Stop criminality. Not legal responsible firearm ownership.




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    #22408506 - 10/20/15 09:48 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

so focused on the tools and not at all on the real problems causing people to turn to these tools.

These mass shooters are hero's taking a stand against overpopulation :lol:


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    #22408681 - 10/20/15 10:26 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

well koods?

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you're telling me that I dont need to protect myself, who is supposed to provide
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yourself and democrat voters such as this... will the police be the ones to
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    #22408763 - 10/20/15 10:49 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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well koods?

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Prisoner#1 said:
you're telling me that I dont need to protect myself, who is supposed to provide
the protection for the general public against those sort of people, people like
yourself and democrat voters such as this... will the police be the ones to
protect me? do you believe that dianne fienstien claim that that if no one has
guns that criminals will simply lay their guns down and turn themselves in
because that's human nature? tell us, who will protect the public from the criminals









Well what? If the guy with a knife has a gun he would have been able to protect himself? I don't see what the point of that video is. Who would you shoot? The guy with the knife or the guys with the cars? You have no idea what was going on there except that nobody was in imminent danger from anyone until people started trying to run the guy over. Who exactly is the bad guy there? Would you just shoot everyone?


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: koods]
    #22408771 - 10/20/15 10:51 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Why are you upset about a guy walking down the street with a knife? If he was walking down the street with a gun you would call him a patriot.


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22408792 - 10/20/15 10:57 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

This thread and my facebook which is liberal leaning by far confirms two things.

1.) Conservatives are far more likely to bring up guns and talk about it because it gets them off.

2.) Some liberals try to make reasonable arguments on gun regulations and then you have some that want zero guns. Those are the special ones of the whole group.

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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: WileyWilly]
    #22408934 - 10/20/15 11:35 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Why are guns bad?

Suicides, school shootings, mass shootings (like thaat Batman incidicent or the Post Office incidient), accidental home shootings and cops killing civilians (see koods signature).

Why are guns good?

Hunting, self-protection from other peoplee with guns, looking badass in movies, preserving history.


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: ManianFH]
    #22409296 - 10/20/15 01:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Shooting out in the desert is so fun. Almost went again this month but gonna have to wait till March.


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    #22409400 - 10/20/15 01:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Maybe it doesnt work in cold weather :shrug:


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22410413 - 10/20/15 05:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Then why does the States lead the GLOBE in mass shootings?





that's a load of bullshit




Your posts about gun control are consistently full of shit.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-leads-world-in-mass-shootings-1443905359


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    #22410665 - 10/20/15 06:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: koods]
    #22411058 - 10/20/15 08:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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well koods?

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Prisoner#1 said:
you're telling me that I dont need to protect myself, who is supposed to provide
the protection for the general public against those sort of people, people like
yourself and democrat voters such as this... will the police be the ones to
protect me? do you believe that dianne fienstien claim that that if no one has
guns that criminals will simply lay their guns down and turn themselves in
because that's human nature? tell us, who will protect the public from the criminals









Well what? If the guy with a knife has a gun he would have been able to protect himself? I don't see what the point of that video is. Who would you shoot? The guy with the knife or the guys with the cars? You have no idea what was going on there except that nobody was in imminent danger from anyone until people started trying to run the guy over. Who exactly is the bad guy there? Would you just shoot everyone?





no koods... who will protect me from you and the liberals, who will protect me
from the criminals, will those criminals simply lay down their guns as dianne
feinestein said and turn themselves in because that's human nature? do you not
read the words that are presented to you, you simply say "guns are bad, Mmmmkay"

the video was merely for entertainment but it's interesting you decided to
comment on that and not the questions posed and to see that you view the
machete wielding democrat voter as the victim when it's clear that there are
no victims in that shit


how do I know? situational awareness, something non gun owners clearly dont have


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #22411096 - 10/20/15 08:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Then why does the States lead the GLOBE in mass shootings?





that's a load of bullshit




Your posts about gun control are consistently full of shit.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-leads-world-in-mass-shootings-1443905359





how many mass shootings are there in Zimbabwe? how many in Chad, Rwanda,
Thailand, Nigeria, Russia, Venuzuela, Nicaragua, Honduras, Mexico, etc...

is a mass shooting no longer a mass shooting if it's called an armed conflict?
how many people need to be shot before it's called a mass shooting? why do
urinalists always claim the US leads the world when they dont even look at the
200 countries that comprise the world why did you link to an article that
requires a subscription but right after the headline it states "Researchers cite
link between gun ownership, attacks but say comparisons difficult", is it because
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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22411107 - 10/20/15 08:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Then why does the States lead the GLOBE in mass shootings?





that's a load of bullshit




Your posts about gun control are consistently full of shit.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-leads-world-in-mass-shootings-1443905359






is a mass shooting no longer a mass shooting if it's called an armed conflict?





No it isnt, at that point its called war. Its a fairly simple distinction to make. You Americans are so easily manipulated by your media, the majority of any one of your views and opinions are neatly packaged and created by the media and educational system. Cultural diatribes that very few if any of you ever critically investigate. Your laws about guns are retarded, there is no control over who gets them and your mass media outlets instigate this type of violence by glamorizing it. Fuck out of here with your bullshit about fighting tyranny, your small arms wont do shit against the armored columns the state possesses. If it really was about defending freedom open access to armour piercing ammo, high explosive weapons, HEAT rounds and the like would be commonplace but its not. Your nothing but a group of spoon feed retards repeating what the medias lead you to believe over the years.


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    #22411117 - 10/20/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

i am sure of it at this point canada is jealous of the gun laws and just argue, because they have a keyboard.


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    #22411125 - 10/20/15 08:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

There's a lot of things bad for America, and the world, Guns aint one of them.


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #22411142 - 10/20/15 08:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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is a mass shooting no longer a mass shooting if it's called an armed conflict?





No it isnt, at that point its called war.




no actually, it's not. armed conflicts are not always wars or rebellions

is mexico at war with it's own people?





would this be considered a mass shooting?



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You Americans are so easily manipulated by your media, the majority of any one of your views and opinions are neatly packaged and created by the media and educational system.




hahahaha... didnt you just cite a news article, incorrectly I may add, that was
published by a US news source in order to back your false claims?


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Your laws about guns are retarded, there is no control over who gets them and your mass media outlets instigate this type of violence by glamorizing it. Fuck out of here with your bullshit about fighting tyranny, your small arms wont do shit against the armored columns the state possesses. If it really was about defending freedom open access to armour piercing ammo, high explosive weapons, HEAT rounds and the like would be commonplace but its not. Your nothing but a group of spoon feed retards repeating what the medias lead you to believe over the years.





who makes up the US military?


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22411164 - 10/20/15 08:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I think mexico would be considered to be at a state of unofficial civil war.


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    #22411165 - 10/20/15 08:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

If not guns then knifes, if not knifes then rocks and sticks, if not that then eventually bare hands. Get it?

Sorry if this goes against the question of the thread, i just cant think of a pure source answer.

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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #22411211 - 10/20/15 08:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I think mexico would be considered to be at a state of unofficial civil war.





sorry, that doesnt play out unless you want to say that the US is in an unofficial state of civil war


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    #22411234 - 10/20/15 08:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Now your just being obtuse and honestly sounding pretty fucking stupid. Mexico is embroiled in corruption via cartels that rival the states apparatus in power. Protests are shot down, people affiliated with movements against the cartels are summarily executed en masse. Its nothing like the school shootings in the states. To even compare the two as being similar is so unbelievably stupid I can barely wrap my head around it.


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    #22411235 - 10/20/15 08:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I think mexico would be considered to be at a state of unofficial civil war.





I have been in Mexico for 5 months now and the only gunshots I have heard were from hunters.

Today I was truly in the middle of nowhere, miles from the nearest road and I was surprised twice by women with machetes.    Or maybe they were more surprised, they had likely never seen an American before.  I greeted them in their native language of Mazateco and they were nice.  One of them even taught me how to say a few things.


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    #22411272 - 10/20/15 09:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Now your just being obtuse and honestly sounding pretty fucking stupid. Mexico is embroiled in corruption via cartels that rival the states apparatus in power. Protests are shot down, people affiliated with movements against the cartels are summarily executed en masse. Its nothing like the school shootings in the states. To even compare the two as being similar is so unbelievably stupid I can barely wrap my head around it.





so wait... the US government is corrupt isnt it?

we go through periods of turmoil in which 'protesters' are looting and burning
cities in which the problem is corrupt government and police

police and criminals are both executing civilians in the streets

the US has these drug cartels here dont we?

libtards are begging us to allow more in and grant citizenship to them


OMG... the US isn in a state of undeclared civil war!!!!


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    #22411281 - 10/20/15 09:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You're using hyperbole to strengthen your points, stretching out minor similarities while ignoring their magnitude in relation to eachother, something stupid people do, like my step-dad for example.


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    #22411297 - 10/20/15 09:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

you're doing the same thing, mexico isnt in a civil war any more than the US is


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    #22411332 - 10/20/15 09:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

And having the police mow down groups of teenagers, having politicians against the cartels assassinated left and right, journalists slaughtered, voices of protest silenced through violence isnt a sign of civil war? Are you seriously suggesting school shootings here and there are anywhere near the same level as that type of violence? Are you really that fucking enamored by some loud pops and shiny metal that you're willing to be that obtuse? You're unbelievable man, I cant believe I used to have respect for any of your ideas.


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    #22411394 - 10/20/15 09:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

so uh, anybody read any good books lately? :begger:


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The rise of Blackwater Mercenary group by Jeremy Schuhill was a really good read, the documentary that came out to go with it was even better. Let me put it this way, if I was in some sort of position of power and I had this guy after me I would legitimately be unnerved.


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group of private mercenaries that have worked with the CIA? that does sound interesting


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    #22411471 - 10/20/15 09:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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And having the police mow down groups of teenagers




I'm sorry, what?













having politicians against the cartels assassinated left and right, journalists slaughtered, voices of protest silenced through violence isnt a sign of civil war?




I keep hearing about this shit going on in the US, I hear about the corrup police
murdering unarmed teens, about politicians on the take from the drug cartels,
agribusiness, pharmaceuticals, big oil, etc... about politicians that dont play
ball being eliminated in numerous ways, we see presidents, senators, congressmen
all getting away with criminal actions with little more than lip service from the
media who tells us all about the innocent little teen that got his head caved in
by the police batons while those politicians make their back room deals with the
drug cartels and foreign governments

so really, is the US any different than mexico? I guess we are because the
politicians here arent against the cartels, they're paying them to make sure
the drugs get here

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Are you seriously suggesting school shootings here and there are anywhere near the same level as that type of violence? Are you really that fucking enamored by some loud pops and shiny metal that you're willing to be that obtuse? You're unbelievable man, I cant believe I used to have respect for any of your ideas.





I'm not the one suggesting that the US has ridiculous gun laws that disarm the
people and prevent them from defending themselves against dangerous criminals,
leaving the innocent people in the crossfire and as victims of both sides as is
happening in mexico. I'm not the one talking about how the police in the US are
out of hand and need to be removed so it leaves only those cartels as an armed
force in the US

I'm also not the one that lives comfortable in canada where the cartel violence isnt spilling over the borders, something that is happening in the US

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/9/sheriffs-warn-of-violence-from-mexican-cartels-dee/?page=all
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2289976/Arizona-beheading-Mexican-cartel-violence-spills-U-S-drug-assassin-pleads-contest-murder.html
http://www.hstoday.us/columns/the-kimery-report/blog/cartel-threats-attacks-on-us-law-enforcement-and-the-question-of-spill-over-violence/19546dea1864ba1008378ba598069fa4.html


but you know... canada knows what's best for everyone else, they get to decide
what's appropriate for others, they can decide that a crime issue is in fact a
civil war even when it isnt because they're su up to date since they do nothing
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The media will not cover the story as "mass" unless 4 or more die.


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The attitutde towards guns is bad, a dead person from a gun is bad , but that dead person usually dies from a stupid person with a gun, or the dead person deserved to die because they were stupid,
Fuck, if it weren't for a gun that killed the previous home owner in a hunting accident, I wouldn't be living in this house. No harsh feelings necause its like Thanks for dying dude , your in a better place and shiit.

I do think guns need stricter regulations, ecause I don't want a blind person living in the middle of nowhere shooting a census man when their door bell rings .. Because they ain't use to having people knocking. Or a stupid person with a gun, a psychopath , or paranoiac with a gun .

This whole gun talk is ridiculous because nobody wants to take away guns, if anything they want to make guns easier acsessable .. Just not in Disneyland ,they've got metal detectors to ruin that show stopper.

I mean, I'm an Anti-gun person ,  but I'd vote for our country to keep regulated guns  because I think , in the scheme of things , that our guns wouldn't protect us. I think our country is founded upon the gun "musket" ,but now the defense agencies have tanks and missiles for war ,while we, ' as citezins have guns to kill ourselves and create 10'Oclock news storiesmwith.

I've got a gun in my home but I'm not proud of it, I don't go around telling anybody. I don't ever think about the gun ..unless I'm planning out all the fun I can have with her. I meant , we , all the fun we can have.

Unregulated spore gun for all shroomerites ..with real bullets .. That get you high.. Higher than heaven


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: WileyWilly]
    #22411674 - 10/20/15 10:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

It's all going in the opposite direction for liberals any ways :loldongs:. Constitutional Carry is a huge hit, the people of those places love it. It's just a matter of time. Just like marijuana legalization, the states that have it... they all love it and its just a matter of time until it spreads every where else!


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    #22411714 - 10/20/15 11:16 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

They are very important.

I like to show people this video lately -

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    #22411778 - 10/20/15 11:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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they're also all liberals... you think maybe it's the democrats that like to dope their children


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: JayZ Morgan]
    #22411790 - 10/20/15 11:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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This whole gun talk is ridiculous because nobody wants to take away guns, if anything they want to make guns easier acsessable ..




really? then they'll be allowing the citizens of New York City to have concealed carry permits wont they, I mean this should be tomorrow at the latest shouldnt it? just call it a show of good faith


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: r00tuuu123]
    #22412506 - 10/21/15 07:50 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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mick said:
Shooting out in the desert is so fun. Almost went again this month but gonna have to wait till March.


Why did you buy a gun that doesn't work till spring? :hmm:





Haha more of a health thing. Going through Chemo for the next 3 months or so and don't know if I'll have the energy for a shooting Vaca.


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: ManianFH]
    #22412528 - 10/21/15 07:56 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The 2nd amendment when for when we had muskets and could have a chance. Now everyone has fucking drones so good luck. Watch Jim jefferies. He explains it very well.


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Sade]
    #22412539 - 10/21/15 07:59 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I don't think he explains anything other than a comedy sketch. I've seen his bit on it in person.


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Sade]
    #22412674 - 10/21/15 08:40 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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The 2nd amendment when for when we had muskets and could have a chance. Now everyone has fucking drones so good luck. Watch Jim jefferies. He explains it very well.




what exactly do drones and jim jeffries have to do with anything


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: ManianFH]
    #22412694 - 10/21/15 08:48 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I don't think he explains anything other than a comedy sketch. I've seen his bit on it in person.





if this is the video that he's talking about, Jim says that he doesnt like bullshit and lies right from the start of the video and then it's nothing but bullshit and lies



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    #22413293 - 10/21/15 11:12 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

If you notice... the liberals all have one thing in common. They give up easy! Even in conversation on here I notice they have no will to fight. It makes sense that they are the way they are. No force! No muscle! Weak little vessels. :laugh2:


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22414917 - 10/21/15 06:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

End result bring your shotgun out to another militaries invasion. I'm sure you will do fine. In the meantime let's have the kids shoot up schools in the meantime.
Even hunting you can use a bow and it takes more skill.


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22414949 - 10/21/15 06:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Dr.Wongburger said:
If you notice... the liberals all have one thing in common. They give up easy! Even in conversation on here I notice they have no will to fight. It makes sense that they are the way they are. No force! No muscle! Weak little vessels. :laugh2:


Sorry was at work.

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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22414974 - 10/21/15 06:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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It's all going in the opposite direction for liberals any ways :loldongs:. Constitutional Carry is a huge hit, the people of those places love it. It's just a matter of time. Just like marijuana legalization, the states that have it... they all love it and its just a matter of time until it spreads every where else!



What the fuck are you talking about. Homosexual marriage is nation wide. If I remember correctly, mainly republicans want weapons and hate homosexuals. Also with all the shootings in schools do you really think they will alow more people to own firearms?


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Sade]
    #22415057 - 10/21/15 06:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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The 2nd amendment when for when we had muskets and could have a chance. Now everyone has fucking drones so good luck. Watch Jim jefferies. He explains it very well.




No, he doesn't. Here's a copy/paste of one of my posts in response to his gun control skit.



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luvdemboomers said:

I love jim jefferies but  his logic is seriously flawed on this one

Quote:

"your 80% more likely to use it on yourself than to shoot someone else"




If you want to kill yourself you're gonna do it with or without a gun. What are you going to do without a gun during a home invasion? Call the police so they can bring you some blankets and cocoa or take you to the morgue?

Quote:

I wasn't wearing my holster




Well for one with a small pistol in a holster becomes just as much a thing you carry as a wallet; you don't notice it. Don't want to wear a holster around all the time? Completely understandable. But in your own home there is no reason you should not be able to get to your gun before someone can gain entry into your home.

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most people who are breaking into your house just want your fucking tv"




Some yes, but how do you know what they want? Are you okay with leaving your life in the hands who is crazy enough to break into your home while you are inside? Most thiefs break in when you are not home.

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" I'm a responsible gun owner I keep my guns in a safe" THEN THEY'RE NOT FUCKING PROTECTION *pretends to be fiddling with combination lock*




You can get biometric safes for a couple hundred bucks where you just press your hand on the pad and the door pops open. Even a digital keypad safe (the majority of gun safes) wouldn't take 10 seconds to open

Don't feel like responding to the second half of the video I think I got my point accross






Also, you don't think the founding fathers knew technology would advance? They put "shall not be infringed" to keep people like you from undermining the constitution. Undermining being synonymous to infringement.

At that time, the government had nothing but muskets and cannons. I'd say it was much more balanced back then by that logic we should be able to own machine guns, rpg's, tanks, etc.


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Sade]
    #22415622 - 10/21/15 08:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Open carry is taking over.
Florida will soon be an open carry state. The bill has already passed the house with overwhelming support.



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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Sade] * 1
    #22415638 - 10/21/15 08:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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The 2nd amendment when for when we had muskets and could have a chance. Now everyone has fucking drones so good luck. Watch Jim jefferies. He explains it very well.





What about all these rifles?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girandoni_Air_Rifle

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puckle_gun

http://www.forgottenweapons.com/lorenzoni/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cookson_repeater

http://firearmshistory.blogspot.com/2014/02/the-kalthoff-repeater.html




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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Sade]
    #22416040 - 10/21/15 10:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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It's all going in the opposite direction for liberals any ways :loldongs:. Constitutional Carry is a huge hit, the people of those places love it. It's just a matter of time. Just like marijuana legalization, the states that have it... they all love it and its just a matter of time until it spreads every where else!



What the fuck are you talking about. Homosexual marriage is nation wide. If I remember correctly, mainly republicans want weapons and hate homosexuals. Also with all the shootings in schools do you really think they will alow more people to own firearms?





Ummm hmmm if we re read what I posted, or I will say if you re read it, I think you will see it's obvious that I stated that Constitutional Carry will spread like marijuana legalization. :toostoned: 

Do we have legal weed in every state? Does it happen over night? How long does it take for marijuana to be legal nation wide at the rate we are going? Come on man, don't sound so butt hurt that things aren't going your way.

Read up on Constitutional Carry. Maine just passed it. It's spreading.

Gay marriage? I'm not for governments involvement in Gay or straight marriage. Your talking to a Libertarian here not a republican.


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Sade]
    #22416051 - 10/21/15 10:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Dr.Wongburger said:
If you notice... the liberals all have one thing in common. They give up easy! Even in conversation on here I notice they have no will to fight. It makes sense that they are the way they are. No force! No muscle! Weak little vessels. :laugh2:


Sorry was at work.

Im just tired of listening to religios republican idiots.





This was a reply to pris #1. Why are you telling me sorry?


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Sade]
    #22416085 - 10/21/15 10:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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End result bring your shotgun out to another militaries invasion. I'm sure you will do fine. In the meantime let's have the kids shoot up schools in the meantime.
Even hunting you can use a bow and it takes more skill.





are liberals really so dumb as to believe that the US military would start shooting
US citizens, keep in mind, gun owners are conservatives, the military is filled
with conservatives. it's the libtard gun grabbers that have to worry about the
military shooting them... remeber, the conservatives have all the guns, the
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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Sade]
    #22416092 - 10/21/15 10:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Dr.Wongburger said:
It's all going in the opposite direction for liberals any ways :loldongs:. Constitutional Carry is a huge hit, the people of those places love it. It's just a matter of time. Just like marijuana legalization, the states that have it... they all love it and its just a matter of time until it spreads every where else!



What the fuck are you talking about. Homosexual marriage is nation wide. If I remember correctly, mainly republicans want weapons and hate homosexuals. Also with all the shootings in schools do you really think they will alow more people to own firearms?





why do all those shooting happen in places where homosexuals and liberals seem to
be most populous... is it because liberals are self loathing homosexuals that want
to destroy themselves and take a hundred of their kind with them? seems like a cult


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    #22416093 - 10/21/15 11:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

liberals have a pill for that.


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: rackem]
    #22416102 - 10/21/15 11:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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liberals have a pill for that.





it's not a pill and it's somewhat bullet shaped




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ha!

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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22416109 - 10/21/15 11:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I seen some post's on social media saying the Holocaust happen because none of them had guns. They could not defend them selves. I will check up later.. I need to smoke...and shower. I just got off work.

The liberals would go to concentration camp's with smiles on their faces, "Trust thy Government!"

"we don't need to defend our selves from our own Government, lets just give them the all the guns and the power.. nah they wont hurt us!".

What would the Liberals do if some foreign nation invaded us?

Other nations know damn well better than attack us on our own soil because they will get shot up by Civilians to.


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: rackem]
    #22416135 - 10/21/15 11:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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ha!

anything to avoid reality.





the reality is that they dont hate guns, they just hate the thought of someone that
isnt in a position of power having guns, kinda strange when you consider that they
also see those people as being a serious problem, maybe it's why koods wont tell us
who will protect us when the guns are removed from our hands... maybe he wants
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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: JayZ Morgan]
    #22419540 - 10/22/15 06:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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This whole gun talk is ridiculous because nobody wants to take away guns, if  ,




This is a quote from Senator Dianne Feinstein
  "If I could've gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them--Mr. and Mrs. America turn 'em all in--I would have done it."


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Sade said:
End result bring your shotgun out to another militaries invasion. I'm sure you will do fine. In the meantime let's have the kids shoot up schools in the meantime.
Even hunting you can use a bow and it takes more skill.





are liberals really so dumb as to believe that the US military would start shooting
US citizens, keep in mind, gun owners are conservatives, the military is filled
with conservatives. it's the libtard gun grabbers that have to worry about the
military shooting them... remeber, the conservatives have all the guns, the
liberals will be herded to concentration camps like sheep to slaughter





Yeh because this NEVER happened.




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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Atreyu]
    #22420214 - 10/22/15 08:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)



This advertisement was published in American Rifleman, November 1940

"In 1940, 75 years ago, the British stood alone against Hitler’s war machine. From May 27 through June 4, the British evacuated more than 300,000 troops from France in the face of the advancing German Blitzkreig. It was called the “Miracle of Dunkirk," but while the soliders were able to fight another day, they left much of the equipment—especially arms—on the beach. The American Committee for the Defense of British Homes ran this notice in the November 1940 American Rifleman.

Due to policies of civilian disarmament, the British people were stripped of their guns by their own government policies, arms needed to defend themselves against potential Nazi invasion. Individual Americans responded to the call, but most of the guns were never returned."

The very Government that took their guns away had to run to America to ask for them back. Tell me, why should we take our guns away again?


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: WileyWilly]
    #22421909 - 10/23/15 08:34 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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JayZ Morgan said:
This whole gun talk is ridiculous because nobody wants to take away guns, if  ,




This is a quote from Senator Dianne Feinstein
  "If I could've gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them--Mr. and Mrs. America turn 'em all in--I would have done it."




She was talking about her bill to ban assault weapons, not all guns. She wanted an outright ban, but the bill was whittled down to a partial ban.

According to case law from the Supreme Court, bans on these types of weapons are perfectly constitutional. Scalia even specifically says a ban on m-16s would be legal.

  2. Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose:  For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms.


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    #22421915 - 10/23/15 08:37 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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This advertisement was published in American Rifleman, November 1940

"In 1940, 75 years ago, the British stood alone against Hitler’s war machine. From May 27 through June 4, the British evacuated more than 300,000 troops from France in the face of the advancing German Blitzkreig. It was called the “Miracle of Dunkirk," but while the soliders were able to fight another day, they left much of the equipment—especially arms—on the beach. The American Committee for the Defense of British Homes ran this notice in the November 1940 American Rifleman.

Due to policies of civilian disarmament, the British people were stripped of their guns by their own government policies, arms needed to defend themselves against potential Nazi invasion. Individual Americans responded to the call, but most of the guns were never returned."

The very Government that took their guns away had to run to America to ask for them back. Tell me, why should we take our guns away again?




This is why we have the 2nd amendment, so that citizens can repel foreign invasion. That is it's only purpose.


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22421956 - 10/23/15 08:52 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Sade said:
End result bring your shotgun out to another militaries invasion. I'm sure you will do fine. In the meantime let's have the kids shoot up schools in the meantime.
Even hunting you can use a bow and it takes more skill.





are liberals really so dumb as to believe that the US military would start shooting
US citizens, keep in mind, gun owners are conservatives, the military is filled
with conservatives. it's the libtard gun grabbers that have to worry about the
military shooting them... remeber, the conservatives have all the guns, the
liberals will be herded to concentration camps like sheep to slaughter




I have faith that the US military would refuse that order if given. I know I would, that is clearly an unlawful order.


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    #22421968 - 10/23/15 08:55 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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This is why we have the 2nd amendment, so that citizens can repel foreign invasion. That is it's only purpose.




How is it you never tire of spouting such utter stupidity? Or are you just reduced to lying? Let's see what those who founded the country and wrote the document had to say on the subject...

"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, December 20, 1787

"I ask who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people, except a few public officers."
- George Mason, Address to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 4, 1788

"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every country in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops."
- Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution, October 10, 1787

"Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments, to which the people are attached, and by which the militia officers are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of."
- James Madison, Federalist No. 46, January 29, 1788

"The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms."
- Samuel Adams, Massachusetts Ratifying Convention, 1788

"The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them."
- Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States, 1833

"What, Sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty .... Whenever Governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins."
- Rep. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts, I Annals of Congress 750, August 17, 1789

"If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government, and which against the usurpations of the national rulers, may be exerted with infinitely better prospect of success than against those of the rulers of an individual state. In a single state, if the persons intrusted with supreme power become usurpers, the different parcels, subdivisions, or districts of which it consists, having no distinct government in each, can take no regular measures for defense. The citizens must rush tumultuously to arms, without concert, without system, without resource; except in their courage and despair."
- Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 28

"If circumstances should at any time oblige the government to form an army of any magnitude that army can never be formidable to the liberties of the people while there is a large body of citizens, little, if at all, inferior to them in discipline and the use of arms, who stand ready to defend their own rights and those of their fellow-citizens. This appears to me the only substitute that can be devised for a standing army, and the best possible security against it, if it should exist."
- Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 28, January 10, 1788

"As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as the military forces which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the article in their right to keep and bear their private arms."
- Tench Coxe, Philadelphia Federal Gazette, June 18, 1789


I could go on but unless you're being deliberately obtuse, there's more than sufficient evidence available.


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Atreyu]
    #22421977 - 10/23/15 08:58 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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End result bring your shotgun out to another militaries invasion. I'm sure you will do fine. In the meantime let's have the kids shoot up schools in the meantime.
Even hunting you can use a bow and it takes more skill.





are liberals really so dumb as to believe that the US military would start shooting
US citizens, keep in mind,gun owners are conservatives, the military is filled with conservatives. it's the libtard gun grabbers that have to worry about the military shooting them... remeber, the  conservatives have all the guns , the liberals will be herded to concentration camps like sheep to slaughter





Yeh because this NEVER happened.








werent those liberals, liberal anti-war protesting, gun grabbing liberals?
maybe you forgot that part of what I had said


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: koods]
    #22421993 - 10/23/15 09:04 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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This advertisement was published in American Rifleman, November 1940

"In 1940, 75 years ago, the British stood alone against Hitler’s war machine. From May 27 through June 4, the British evacuated more than 300,000 troops from France in the face of the advancing German Blitzkreig. It was called the “Miracle of Dunkirk," but while the soliders were able to fight another day, they left much of the equipment—especially arms—on the beach. The American Committee for the Defense of British Homes ran this notice in the November 1940 American Rifleman.

Due to policies of civilian disarmament, the British people were stripped of their guns by their own government policies, arms needed to defend themselves against potential Nazi invasion. Individual Americans responded to the call, but most of the guns were never returned."

The very Government that took their guns away had to run to America to ask for them back. Tell me, why should we take our guns away again?




This is why we have the 2nd amendment, so that citizens can repel foreign invasion. That is it's only purpose.





so you're saying now that the public needs to keep their guns, good to see
you're  a second amendment supporter even if you're wrong again


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Do you solemnly swear that you will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that you will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that you take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that you will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which you are about to enter: So help you God?




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A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.




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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: koods]
    #22422196 - 10/23/15 09:57 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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koods said:
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Dr.Wongburger said:


This advertisement was published in American Rifleman, November 1940

"In 1940, 75 years ago, the British stood alone against Hitler’s war machine. From May 27 through June 4, the British evacuated more than 300,000 troops from France in the face of the advancing German Blitzkreig. It was called the “Miracle of Dunkirk," but while the soliders were able to fight another day, they left much of the equipment—especially arms—on the beach. The American Committee for the Defense of British Homes ran this notice in the November 1940 American Rifleman.

Due to policies of civilian disarmament, the British people were stripped of their guns by their own government policies, arms needed to defend themselves against potential Nazi invasion. Individual Americans responded to the call, but most of the guns were never returned."

The very Government that took their guns away had to run to America to ask for them back. Tell me, why should we take our guns away again?




This is why we have the 2nd amendment, so that citizens can repel foreign invasion. That is it's only purpose.



:uhno:


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: qman]
    #22422224 - 10/23/15 10:02 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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This is why we have the 2nd amendment, so that citizens can repel foreign invasion. That is it's only purpose.



:uhno:




He says so many stupid things that it's difficult to pick the most stupid. I'd say this is right up there.


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22422294 - 10/23/15 10:16 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
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qman said:
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This is why we have the 2nd amendment, so that citizens can repel foreign invasion. That is it's only purpose.



:uhno:




He says so many stupid things that it's difficult to pick the most stupid. I'd say this is right up there.





no, in order to pick the most stupid all you have to do is look for this

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koods said:







anything he's posted is going to be the most stupid

I still dont have his dumb answer on who will protect the populace since we know
he doesnt want cops on the streets and he doesnt want people to be able to defend
themselves. who will start protecting us? these shining examples of the
democratic party?



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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22422315 - 10/23/15 10:20 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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luvdemshrooms said:
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qman said:
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koods said:
This is why we have the 2nd amendment, so that citizens can repel foreign invasion. That is it's only purpose.



:uhno:




He says so many stupid things that it's difficult to pick the most stupid. I'd say this is right up there.





no, in order to pick the most stupid all you have to do is look for this

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koods said:







anything he's posted is going to be the most stupid

I still dont have his dumb answer on who will protect the populace since we know
he doesnt want cops on the streets and he doesnt want people to be able to defend
themselves. who will start protecting us? these shining examples of the
democratic party?






So we'll disagree on what the most stupid thing he said was and agree that he quite frequently says stupid things.

Compromise is a wonderful thing.


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22422324 - 10/23/15 10:22 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Compromise is a wonderful thing.





I agree with the sentiment but I cannot agree with your spelling, I will overlook
it though in the spirit of unity and brotherhood


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22422330 - 10/23/15 10:23 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Compromise is a wonderful thing.





I agree with the sentiment but I cannot agree with your spelling, I will overlook
it though in the spirit of unity and brotherhood. correctly spelled words are a
crime in these times


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    #22422335 - 10/23/15 10:24 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

there's a glitch in the matrix


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    #22422349 - 10/23/15 10:27 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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there's a glitch in the matrix





it's a wohnderful thing


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22422466 - 10/23/15 11:04 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:

Compromise is a wonderful thing.





I agree with the sentiment but I cannot agree with your spelling, I will overlook
it though in the spirit of unity and brotherhood. correctly spelled words are a
crime in these times





Spelling?

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/compromise?s=t

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/is?s=t

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/a?s=t

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/wonderful?s=t

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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: koods]
    #22423330 - 10/23/15 02:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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This is why we have the 2nd amendment, so that citizens can repel foreign invasion. That is it's only purpose.




So are you for people owning guns in the privacy of their own homes?

It seem's we are converting you Koods. Even if it's one pixel at a time. This is good. This is good. I feel no need to post a defense, the others are very clear and sensible. Come to the light Koods.. Come to the light...


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22423712 - 10/23/15 04:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Damn prisoner#1 you sure do like to argue your point lol. You are very good at it though. I can respect that.


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Sade]
    #22424026 - 10/23/15 05:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I would like america to remove all restrictions on gun ownership, for at least a year or two. Then when the dust settles, we would know once and for all what's best for the country and there'd be no more need to bitch over it.


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    #22425206 - 10/23/15 10:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I feel like whatever the most intellectual thing someone has to say...

America will do the exact opposite, so in reality prisoner arguing for guns is actually doing koods a hhuuuuge favor


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Sade]
    #22425392 - 10/24/15 12:01 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Damn prisoner#1 you sure do like to argue your point lol. You are very good at it though. I can respect that.





the way I see it, I dont own a vagina so I'm not going to tell vagina owners what
they can do with them or make laws that dictate what they can do with their vagina,
if you dont own a gun then keep your nose out of my business because my guns do not
hurt you or anyone else


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Konyap]
    #22425394 - 10/24/15 12:02 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I feel like whatever the most intellectual thing someone has to say...

America will do the exact opposite, so in reality prisoner arguing for guns is actually doing koods a hhuuuuge favor





really? so they musta banned the guns already then


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Konyap]
    #22427228 - 10/24/15 01:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Koods has been staying away from this thread.. hmmm... wonder why?

Could be working.. could be sleeping.. could be that arguments against gun ownership never work out. We own guns here. End of story =))))))))))


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