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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #22411096 - 10/20/15 08:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Then why does the States lead the GLOBE in mass shootings?





that's a load of bullshit




Your posts about gun control are consistently full of shit.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-leads-world-in-mass-shootings-1443905359





how many mass shootings are there in Zimbabwe? how many in Chad, Rwanda,
Thailand, Nigeria, Russia, Venuzuela, Nicaragua, Honduras, Mexico, etc...

is a mass shooting no longer a mass shooting if it's called an armed conflict?
how many people need to be shot before it's called a mass shooting? why do
urinalists always claim the US leads the world when they dont even look at the
200 countries that comprise the world why did you link to an article that
requires a subscription but right after the headline it states "Researchers cite
link between gun ownership, attacks but say comparisons difficult", is it because
you didnt read anything but the headline?

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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22411107 - 10/20/15 08:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
Then why does the States lead the GLOBE in mass shootings?





that's a load of bullshit




Your posts about gun control are consistently full of shit.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-leads-world-in-mass-shootings-1443905359






is a mass shooting no longer a mass shooting if it's called an armed conflict?





No it isnt, at that point its called war. Its a fairly simple distinction to make. You Americans are so easily manipulated by your media, the majority of any one of your views and opinions are neatly packaged and created by the media and educational system. Cultural diatribes that very few if any of you ever critically investigate. Your laws about guns are retarded, there is no control over who gets them and your mass media outlets instigate this type of violence by glamorizing it. Fuck out of here with your bullshit about fighting tyranny, your small arms wont do shit against the armored columns the state possesses. If it really was about defending freedom open access to armour piercing ammo, high explosive weapons, HEAT rounds and the like would be commonplace but its not. Your nothing but a group of spoon feed retards repeating what the medias lead you to believe over the years.

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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22411117 - 10/20/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

i am sure of it at this point canada is jealous of the gun laws and just argue, because they have a keyboard.


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #22411125 - 10/20/15 08:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

There's a lot of things bad for America, and the world, Guns aint one of them.


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #22411142 - 10/20/15 08:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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is a mass shooting no longer a mass shooting if it's called an armed conflict?





No it isnt, at that point its called war.




no actually, it's not. armed conflicts are not always wars or rebellions

is mexico at war with it's own people?





would this be considered a mass shooting?



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You Americans are so easily manipulated by your media, the majority of any one of your views and opinions are neatly packaged and created by the media and educational system.




hahahaha... didnt you just cite a news article, incorrectly I may add, that was
published by a US news source in order to back your false claims?


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Your laws about guns are retarded, there is no control over who gets them and your mass media outlets instigate this type of violence by glamorizing it. Fuck out of here with your bullshit about fighting tyranny, your small arms wont do shit against the armored columns the state possesses. If it really was about defending freedom open access to armour piercing ammo, high explosive weapons, HEAT rounds and the like would be commonplace but its not. Your nothing but a group of spoon feed retards repeating what the medias lead you to believe over the years.





who makes up the US military?

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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22411164 - 10/20/15 08:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I think mexico would be considered to be at a state of unofficial civil war.

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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: WileyWilly] * 1
    #22411165 - 10/20/15 08:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

If not guns then knifes, if not knifes then rocks and sticks, if not that then eventually bare hands. Get it?

Sorry if this goes against the question of the thread, i just cant think of a pure source answer.

If people were good, then shooting guns would be just another hobby.


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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #22411211 - 10/20/15 08:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I think mexico would be considered to be at a state of unofficial civil war.





sorry, that doesnt play out unless you want to say that the US is in an unofficial state of civil war

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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22411234 - 10/20/15 08:57 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Now your just being obtuse and honestly sounding pretty fucking stupid. Mexico is embroiled in corruption via cartels that rival the states apparatus in power. Protests are shot down, people affiliated with movements against the cartels are summarily executed en masse. Its nothing like the school shootings in the states. To even compare the two as being similar is so unbelievably stupid I can barely wrap my head around it.

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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #22411235 - 10/20/15 08:57 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I think mexico would be considered to be at a state of unofficial civil war.





I have been in Mexico for 5 months now and the only gunshots I have heard were from hunters.

Today I was truly in the middle of nowhere, miles from the nearest road and I was surprised twice by women with machetes.    Or maybe they were more surprised, they had likely never seen an American before.  I greeted them in their native language of Mazateco and they were nice.  One of them even taught me how to say a few things.

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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #22411272 - 10/20/15 09:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Now your just being obtuse and honestly sounding pretty fucking stupid. Mexico is embroiled in corruption via cartels that rival the states apparatus in power. Protests are shot down, people affiliated with movements against the cartels are summarily executed en masse. Its nothing like the school shootings in the states. To even compare the two as being similar is so unbelievably stupid I can barely wrap my head around it.





so wait... the US government is corrupt isnt it?

we go through periods of turmoil in which 'protesters' are looting and burning
cities in which the problem is corrupt government and police

police and criminals are both executing civilians in the streets

the US has these drug cartels here dont we?

libtards are begging us to allow more in and grant citizenship to them


OMG... the US isn in a state of undeclared civil war!!!!

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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22411281 - 10/20/15 09:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You're using hyperbole to strengthen your points, stretching out minor similarities while ignoring their magnitude in relation to eachother, something stupid people do, like my step-dad for example.

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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #22411297 - 10/20/15 09:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

you're doing the same thing, mexico isnt in a civil war any more than the US is

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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22411332 - 10/20/15 09:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

And having the police mow down groups of teenagers, having politicians against the cartels assassinated left and right, journalists slaughtered, voices of protest silenced through violence isnt a sign of civil war? Are you seriously suggesting school shootings here and there are anywhere near the same level as that type of violence? Are you really that fucking enamored by some loud pops and shiny metal that you're willing to be that obtuse? You're unbelievable man, I cant believe I used to have respect for any of your ideas.

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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #22411394 - 10/20/15 09:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

so uh, anybody read any good books lately? :begger:

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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #22411403 - 10/20/15 09:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The rise of Blackwater Mercenary group by Jeremy Schuhill was a really good read, the documentary that came out to go with it was even better. Let me put it this way, if I was in some sort of position of power and I had this guy after me I would legitimately be unnerved.

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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #22411416 - 10/20/15 09:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

group of private mercenaries that have worked with the CIA? that does sound interesting

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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #22411471 - 10/20/15 09:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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And having the police mow down groups of teenagers




I'm sorry, what?













having politicians against the cartels assassinated left and right, journalists slaughtered, voices of protest silenced through violence isnt a sign of civil war?




I keep hearing about this shit going on in the US, I hear about the corrup police
murdering unarmed teens, about politicians on the take from the drug cartels,
agribusiness, pharmaceuticals, big oil, etc... about politicians that dont play
ball being eliminated in numerous ways, we see presidents, senators, congressmen
all getting away with criminal actions with little more than lip service from the
media who tells us all about the innocent little teen that got his head caved in
by the police batons while those politicians make their back room deals with the
drug cartels and foreign governments

so really, is the US any different than mexico? I guess we are because the
politicians here arent against the cartels, they're paying them to make sure
the drugs get here

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Are you seriously suggesting school shootings here and there are anywhere near the same level as that type of violence? Are you really that fucking enamored by some loud pops and shiny metal that you're willing to be that obtuse? You're unbelievable man, I cant believe I used to have respect for any of your ideas.





I'm not the one suggesting that the US has ridiculous gun laws that disarm the
people and prevent them from defending themselves against dangerous criminals,
leaving the innocent people in the crossfire and as victims of both sides as is
happening in mexico. I'm not the one talking about how the police in the US are
out of hand and need to be removed so it leaves only those cartels as an armed
force in the US

I'm also not the one that lives comfortable in canada where the cartel violence isnt spilling over the borders, something that is happening in the US

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/9/sheriffs-warn-of-violence-from-mexican-cartels-dee/?page=all
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2289976/Arizona-beheading-Mexican-cartel-violence-spills-U-S-drug-assassin-pleads-contest-murder.html
http://www.hstoday.us/columns/the-kimery-report/blog/cartel-threats-attacks-on-us-law-enforcement-and-the-question-of-spill-over-violence/19546dea1864ba1008378ba598069fa4.html


but you know... canada knows what's best for everyone else, they get to decide
what's appropriate for others, they can decide that a crime issue is in fact a
civil war even when it isnt because they're su up to date since they do nothing
but watch the news about america

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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22411575 - 10/20/15 10:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

its like that smile is a signature side effect of some fucked up drug that all these poor guys get dosed with

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