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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#22406795 - 10/20/15 12:05 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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at least we have superstars 
what do u have?, u have fuckin justin beiber.
7's the key number here. Think about it.
step into my office
why?..
cuz u're fuckin fired!
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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: koods] 1
#22406798 - 10/20/15 12:06 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Guns don't equal freedom. How free are you if you are afraid to leave your house without one? that's not freedom. That's being a slave to a chunk of metal.
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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: koods] 1
#22406802 - 10/20/15 12:07 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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i think just having one safely stored somewhere, and knowing how to use them properly, and the dangers n shit, should be sufficient.
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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: zZZz] 1
#22406812 - 10/20/15 12:10 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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ALL destructive deadly weapons are a good thing in my mind because I'm so cynical and bitter against the human race that I want it to destroy itself Guns are similar to bombs in that they should only be allowed to be handled by people with serious training and that includes making it illegal to sell guns to people with no relevant credentials over the internet.
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Its the people who know how to use them that often cause the most damage to society as a whole. The army isnt out there saving lives.
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Hopefully, gun shops will start having to pay damages for selling guns without due diligence. how did the aurora shooter order 4000 billets no questions asked? People that want to buy enough weaponry to shoot up more than their household should be required to get a permit and pay insurance to cover the medical expenses of the people they could potentially kill.
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but i mean who the fuck wants peace nowadays?, surely not the gov, where's the fun in that?..
no prisons, no one to shoot, nothing to make the cops dick hard. fuck that!
the fuckin cia unleashed crack into the poor neighborhoods back in the 80's, what does that say about our govs?..
we need jails, we need violence, chaos, u name it. we need blood to feed the machine!. that's why alcohol is legal and weed is not..
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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: koods] 2
#22406845 - 10/20/15 12:19 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: Youre terrible at comparing things.
I use the same measure for comparison that you use the only difference is that the numbers are on my side
ready to ban homosexuals and doctards yet?
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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: koods] 1
#22406849 - 10/20/15 12:22 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: Guns don't equal freedom. How free are you if you are afraid to leave your house without one? that's not freedom. That's being a slave to a chunk of metal.
in guatamala guns are illegal... they're afraid to leave their house, when they leave their house it's to come to the US... why is that, are they slaves to the guns or slaves because they cant defend themselves against the criminals that have guns
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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: koods] 1
#22406855 - 10/20/15 12:23 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: Hopefully, gun shops will start having to pay damages for selling guns without due diligence. how did the aurora shooter order 4000 billets no questions asked? People that want to buy enough weaponry to shoot up more than their household should be required to get a permit and pay insurance to cover the medical expenses of the people they could potentially kill.
is every retailer required to do due diligence?
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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22406889 - 10/20/15 12:33 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: Guns don't equal freedom. How free are you if you are afraid to leave your house without one? that's not freedom. That's being a slave to a chunk of metal.
in guatamala guns are illegal... they're afraid to leave their house, when they leave their house it's to come to the US... why is that, are they slaves to the guns or slaves because they cant defend themselves against the criminals that have guns
You ever notice that when you make comparisons to other countries, it's places like Guatemala or Zimbabwe, and I when I make comparisons it's to places like Canada and Australia.
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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: koods] 1
#22406922 - 10/20/15 12:41 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: Guns don't equal freedom. How free are you if you are afraid to leave your house without one? that's not freedom. That's being a slave to a chunk of metal.
in guatamala guns are illegal... they're afraid to leave their house, when they leave their house it's to come to the US... why is that, are they slaves to the guns or slaves because they cant defend themselves against the criminals that have guns
You ever notice that when you make comparisons to other countries, it's places like Guatemala or Zimbabwe, and I when I make comparisons it's to places like Canada and Australia. 
kinda strange that when you make those references you dont discuss that those places have an increasing violent crime rate or that gun control hasnt stopped mass murders from happening in those countries or that the mass murders are now far more gruesome
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cairns_child_killings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quakers_Hill,_New_South_Wales#Nursing_home_fire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lin_family_murders https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Saturday_bushfires#Central_Gippsland_fires https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Childers_Palace_Backpackers_Hostel_fire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowtown_murders
you also havent said that there arent any shootings in these countries even though they've banned guns in australia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monash_University_shooting
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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22406937 - 10/20/15 12:43 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Then why does the States lead the GLOBE in mass shootings?
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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Bodhi of Ankou] 1
#22406943 - 10/20/15 12:46 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Then why does the States lead the GLOBE in mass shootings?
that's a load of bullshit
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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: koods]
#22406950 - 10/20/15 12:47 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: Guns don't equal freedom. How free are you if you are afraid to leave your house without one? that's not freedom. That's being a slave to a chunk of metal.
Your just as free as you are if you are not afraid to leave your house with out one.
You could also say you are just as free as if you had the faith to leave your house with one. Or without. It seem's your implying that you can't have faith and leave your house with one.
Faith is the same as Fear but in the other direction.
Or you may be implying it as simply an emotion. On that standpoint I would not call faith an emotion.. that's all opinions on this message board tho.
I guess I have to stay with "Your just as free as you are if you are not afraid to leave your house with out one." Yea.. ill stick with that.
I know..or at least I think you mean gun's don't equal freedom in the hands of civilians right? Because you take away the guns from our military.. watch who's flags will be flying by tomorrow morning.. it wont be the USA's.
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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Dr.Wongburger] 2
#22406954 - 10/20/15 12:50 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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i'll bet op is to this thread cuz of how it's turning out
you've done it again BC
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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: koods]
#22407015 - 10/20/15 01:20 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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hTx said: If there were students walking around with CHL licenses on campus, and a would-be school shooter pulls out his gun around those that are armed, i guarantee he won't injure nor kill near as many people as he would if nobody was armed because someone would shoot him.
You want a fucking shootout in a classroom? Brilliant.
Just n the past three weeks I've read about two people arrested for shooting up two different parking lots trying to take down shoplifters (unsuccessfully). In Texas, a "hero" witnessed a carjacking and decided to help with his gun and ended up shooting the carjack victim in the head. People are not responsible enough to be carrying around deadly weapons.
There was a guy who tried to stop the mass shooting at the Louisville recruiting center and he completely missed. It's fucking bullshit that a good guy with a gun is what it takes to stop a bad gun with a gun. Even if it would happen,it would only be after a half dozen people were already shot. The problem is people have guns in the first place.
Do you honestly think making guns illegal will keep them off the streets? It would just create a highly profitable black market and leave the innocent majority unarmed and unprotected. Any time people begin talking about gun control I get very wary for this reason, it seems they are forgetting the big picture. If someone is determined enough to shoot up a school, I'm pretty sure they would be determined enough to obtain a gun through whatever illegal means possible, if not having done so already.
There isn't much research (there is some you just have to look for it) regarding gun control and genocide, however, from what credible sources I could find there remains one glaring fact, and that is gun control laws were enacted shortly before and/or during periods of genocide by an oppressive government...I'm not saying this is whats going on its just something to think about.
Our forefathers made the right to bear arms our 2nd amendment for a reason, its important for the people to protect against potential tyranny, just as they did against the british...
But its especially important to note that if this really becomes to big of an issue, there will likely be some sort of civil war.
So the push to create less violence could actually spawn the bloodiest war of all time.
fuck.
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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: hTx]
#22407032 - 10/20/15 01:29 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think our real problem isnt with guns, but with violence.
How do we stop violence?
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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22407051 - 10/20/15 01:39 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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in guatamala guns are illegal... they're afraid to leave their house, when they leave their house it's to come to the US... why is that, are they slaves to the guns or slaves because they cant defend themselves against the criminals that have guns
All those illegal guns in Guatamala came from the USA. If they had good neighboring nations where people are responsible this wouldn't happen. These other places don't get their illegal guns from Narnia.
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Re: Convince me why guns are bad for America [Re: my3rdeye]
#22407503 - 10/20/15 07:10 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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WileyWilly said: Give me your best shot! pew pew
Guns are bad for America because there is more nobility in being a victim than being a survivor, or so its being said.
Right koods and third eye?
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hTx said: shutup your from canada.
your opinion on bearing arms does not matter nor count.
Stop being the source country for black market guns in mexico and canada and I will be glad to! As it stands now you people don't seem to be smart enough to keep your guns safe.
By this logic Americans proximity to Canada makes them whiny and soft, Americans proximity to Mexico makes them lazy and entitled.
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