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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
#22415156 - 10/21/15 07:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Cowb0yNeal00 said: anyone have any advice for getting a script for Oxandrolone or similar drug?
You've gotta doc shop. Some are chill others play by the book. Best of luck to you in your athletic endeavors man. Just read. Don't make mistakes I have made or others. Stay away from oral and pro hormones. Your bile ducts failing ain't fun.
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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: Mescalean]
#22469443 - 11/03/15 03:48 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Asante or anyone else knowledgeable, my main plan at the moment is just to concentrate on losing fat and gaining functional endurance, power and strength, purely via cardio; walking, jogging, swimming and sprinting, and body-weight exercises such as calisthenics and plyometrics. Is Oxandrolone (Anavar) THE best anabolic steroid for my plan? The way I see it is = faster recovery and growth = the more jogs and exercising I can go for = more fat loss and functional gains.
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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: daz01]
#22469456 - 11/03/15 04:03 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Also, I bought these last year, from an online supplement store but never got around to trying it. It is marketed as Epistane and a pro-hormone. Chemical name:
2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol
Thoughts on this?
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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: daz01]
#22469465 - 11/03/15 04:13 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Get big without cheating. You'll thank yourself later.
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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: Webster10]
#22469490 - 11/03/15 04:25 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Seems like an old thread but w/e
I've never taken any supplements beyond protein powder, but I know a few people who have used steroids and they told me a fair bit about it. It's pretty serious stuff and you really need to research it all and do it all properly. A lot of people don't realise that after taking a cycle of steroids your supposed to do this post cycle therapy thing that rebalances the body to prevent side effects.
In general steroids are something that I think should only be used to push ones limit or go further then they can naturally. As in someone who's been training and has reached the plateu where they genetically can't get further results. Not as an aid for someone looking to get into fitness and start training.
You don't need steroids. Just push yourself and do what you can naturally and sustainably. Pretty much anyone I've ever seen who used steroids always in time stopped training and shrunk back to their normal size.
In general to get results you just need to do 3 basic things: train hard and push yourself, ensure your eating enough calories to be gaining, and get a lot of good deep sleep. Lift big, eat big, sleep big. That was my mantra when I was training. It works.
That was mostly in regards to building muscle. In relation to losing weight I think there's some type of steroid called clenbyuterol or something? I hear people call it ' clen '. Some sort of steroid that speeds up weight loss. I think people who are competing in contests use it to shred before competitions. But I think I also heard it can cause heart problems of not used properly.
Again I'd say it's prob best to go without any kind of steroid or anything and just maintain your routines. If you are going to use supplements make sure you do your research and learn how to do everything properly.
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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: Webster10]
#22469504 - 11/03/15 04:30 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Webster10 said: Get big without cheating. You'll thank yourself later.
I have no interest in getting big. Why post something like that when it has been covered? i.e. the taboo on steroids. Cheating? It's not like you take steroids and it automatically makes you "big" You still gotta have a near-perfect nutrition and exercise plan for improvement. I see it as a boost, extra rewards for working hard as fuck.
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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: daz01]
#22469516 - 11/03/15 04:37 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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daz01 said:
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Webster10 said: Get big without cheating. You'll thank yourself later.
I have no interest in getting big. Why post something like that when it has been covered? i.e. the taboo on steroids. Cheating? It's not like you take steroids and it automatically makes you "big" You still gotta have a near-perfect nutrition and exercise plan for improvement. I see it as a boost, extra rewards for working hard as fuck.
If you're just starting trying to get fit, steroids aren't for you. If you really do "have a near-perfect nutrition and work hard as fuck" you will see drastic improvements without steroids. They're a cheap cop-out for those who don't have the will to get fit on their own. Their only legitimate use is to surpass your genetic potential after you've already reached it through legitimate means.
If you eat well, do a lot of cardio and really push yourself to go hard when doing your calisthenics, you will get shredded in no time, steroids or no steroids.
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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: Soulidarity]
#22469520 - 11/03/15 04:38 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Soulidarity said: Seems like an old thread but w/e
I've never taken any supplements beyond protein powder, but I know a few people who have used steroids and they told me a fair bit about it. It's pretty serious stuff and you really need to research it all and do it all properly. A lot of people don't realise that after taking a cycle of steroids your supposed to do this post cycle therapy thing that rebalances the body to prevent side effects.
In general steroids are something that I think should only be used to push ones limit or go further then they can naturally. As in someone who's been training and has reached the plateu where they genetically can't get further results. Not as an aid for someone looking to get into fitness and start training.
You don't need steroids. Just push yourself and do what you can naturally and sustainably. Pretty much anyone I've ever seen who used steroids always in time stopped training and shrunk back to their normal size.
In general to get results you just need to do 3 basic things: train hard and push yourself, ensure your eating enough calories to be gaining, and get a lot of good deep sleep. Lift big, eat big, sleep big. That was my mantra when I was training. It works.
That was mostly in regards to building muscle. In relation to losing weight I think there's some type of steroid called clenbyuterol or something? I hear people call it ' clen '. Some sort of steroid that speeds up weight loss. I think people who are competing in contests use it to shred before competitions. But I think I also heard it can cause heart problems of not used properly.
Again I'd say it's prob best to go without any kind of steroid or anything and just maintain your routines. If you are going to use supplements make sure you do your research and learn how to do everything properly.
It's clenbuterol and it's not a steroid. It's "benefits" are also not confirmed, sort of like many other "health supplements" and fads.
In my case, I've been into "living healthy" and exercising as such, for around 8 years. I know how to make gains "naturally" but I lost 3 or so years when I fell mentally ill and lost nearly everything. I need a head start, which steroids will give me.
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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: daz01]
#22469526 - 11/03/15 04:41 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Also @Asante: what would the regimen regarding oxandrolone be like per your recommendation?
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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: KrishnaDreamer]
#22469529 - 11/03/15 04:42 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm sorry everyone, but why are you asking an obese man for exercise tips?
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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: Webster10]
#22469536 - 11/03/15 04:47 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Webster10 said: I'm sorry everyone, but why are you asking an obese man for exercise tips?
What? Do you speak English? We are asking him about substances/chemicals and their effects, which Asante is extremely knowledgeable on.
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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: daz01]
#22469539 - 11/03/15 04:49 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah man, Asante is a great asset to this community. Your uncalled for insults are way out of line.
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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: daz01]
#22469550 - 11/03/15 05:01 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's not cheating at all, but I think people are too quick to turn to steroids and things to start. It's not just a scoop of preworkout buzz powder or a protein shake you drink after the gym. Steroids are serious things that mess with your body chemistry and have a lot of side effects if not done properly.
But yeah unfortunately it's much easier to put on weight then it is to lose weight. I could lift like a beast for 1 1/2 hours a day and be fine. But cardio is fucked. I'd run for like 10 minutes and feel like I'm literally going to die.
I've actually put on a bit of weight lately myself and was thinking of getting some clenbyuterol to help get me a bit of an edge and make it easier kind of thing. Soooo I know how it is.
Eitherway whatever you do the key is just to keep at it. The most difficult thing about training is sticking with it long enough to see results. Train regularly and eat right for 6 months and itll be a night and day difference.
Once you adjust to training you start to get addicted to it anyway. You start to get a rush from it and look forward to it. I used to love mountain biking down forrest trails and would ride up to 10-15km a day. It doesn't even really feel like exercising and you can easily cover heaps of ground on a bike. Way better then sitting in a gym staring at the walls.
But yeah I think clenbyuterol is what you're looking for but I also think it might be illegal too
Edit - just read your recent replies after writing out the above, yeah seems like you know what on about so I should probably stop telling you stuff you already know.
All the best with it anyways
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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: Soulidarity]
#22469601 - 11/03/15 05:37 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I am, or was, asthmatic and I am prescribed albuterol, which has the same mechanism of action as clenbuterol. I am a bit wary to abuse it though, the dosage required for "performance enhancing" and fat loss is hella high.
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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: daz01]
#22472393 - 11/03/15 06:02 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Watched a fat friend go from fat and not jacked to stocky but not really skinny but the buffness outweights his looking of being fat. Yes he took anavar. You can find it online really easily from online shops also search hashtags on instagram for steroid labs. Sounds stupid but that's how a lot advertise. Usually you can be redirected to a website through that.
If you think cardio will deplete your muscle mass try winnie with test prop. Test doctors can easily be found on craigslist if you live in a relatively major city. I was quite shocked how open they were. If your going bald you can even get Testosterone Prop.
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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: daz01]
#22473022 - 11/03/15 07:54 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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daz01 said: Also, I bought these last year, from an online supplement store but never got around to trying it. It is marketed as Epistane and a pro-hormone. Chemical name:
2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol
Thoughts on this?
Epistane is a designer steroid that was made in japan in I want to say the 60's if memory serves correct. It boosts testosterone while lowering estrogen providing a lean/dry look and feel. I suggest you flush or sell it if you really want your money back. Shit is liver toxic. Why don't you try gaining weight naturally. Give that a shot first before jumping to performance enhancers.
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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: Mescalean]
#22473052 - 11/03/15 08:01 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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caffiene is a great stimulant for what you're looking for. Also, creatine is excellent. a natural test booster will help as well.
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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: Higher Love]
#22479122 - 11/05/15 12:30 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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So is oxandrolone the best bang for the buck? As in, it has all the wanted effects, and none of the bad ones? Is there something that's even better? I'm not looking to get jacked, but some endurance enhancing and burning off the little amount belly fat I have would be great.
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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: KrishnaDreamer]
#22479518 - 11/05/15 05:20 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Stimerex ES, ebay. It's an ephedrine supplement. Careful with it
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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: Higher Love]
#22479521 - 11/05/15 05:22 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I knew a kid who would take a bunch of testosterone and then walk around the locker room with his inflated cock out
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