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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: Gorlax] 1
#22412201 - 10/21/15 03:08 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Gorlax said: If a transgendered person can inject themselves with estrodiol because they don't like their body then why wouldn't a male be able to inject test to be more manly.
This. The taboo on anabolic steroids is absurd.
Know how old people get weak and prone to break bones? Anabolic steroids prevent that quite well.
They are given to cancer and aids patients who suffer "wasting" to put on some healthy weight so yes, they WILL affect you even if you exercise little.
If you take not an "athletic" regimen but a medicinal one, for instance 4 weeks of 5-10mg Oxandrolone daily, your body tissues including muscle, bone and connective tissues simply get an upgrade.
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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: Asante]
#22412244 - 10/21/15 04:04 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Gorlax said: If a transgendered person can inject themselves with estrodiol because they don't like their body then why wouldn't a male be able to inject test to be more manly.
This. The taboo on anabolic steroids is absurd.
Know how old people get weak and prone to break bones? Anabolic steroids prevent that quite well.
They are given to cancer and aids patients who suffer "wasting" to put on some healthy weight so yes, they WILL affect you even if you exercise little.
If you take not an "athletic" regimen but a medicinal one, for instance 4 weeks of 5-10mg Oxandrolone daily, your body tissues including muscle, bone and connective tissues simply get an upgrade.
Taking steroids on the reg without working out seems like such a waste. I will never use test boosters or roids, but if I did, packing on muscle would be stupidly easy. Steroids are cheating
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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: Webster10]
#22412254 - 10/21/15 04:23 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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if I did, packing on muscle would be stupidly easy
Steroids arent a magic pill where *poof* you are jacked. It still takes major dedication and a solid workout program
Do steroids make it 'easier' to pack on muscle if you are willing to put in the work? Definitely. But like mescalean said, it levels the playing field where genetics stop short. Genetics are everything
Side note: I thought you were permed?
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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: Asante]
#22412336 - 10/21/15 06:10 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm also someone who was never intrigued (well, at some points maybe), but now kinda am. I do martial arts and I get winded pretty easy just starting out, plus I'm underweight.
What's like the best stuff you can get? Reasonably, since you said the best stuff was banned? Or is oxandrolone your best suggestion? I've seen a lot of steroids advertised from vendors.
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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: KrishnaDreamer]
#22412360 - 10/21/15 06:29 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I recommend against using "athletic" amounts of anabolic steroids and instead go for medicinal amounts which tend to create qualitative improvements rather than bulking up.
If you want to get into serious bulking and have a dream run, go for 400mg injected testosterone a week including PCT etc.for 8-12 weeks.
If you just want to firm up without growing, thats what 5-10mg Oxandrolone orally a day for 4 week runs with intervals is made for. Its very popular because its so benign.
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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: Asante]
#22412410 - 10/21/15 07:01 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ah, yeah, no interest in bulking up at all, but would like to see strength and endurance improvements.
I'll take up your suggestions on oxandrolone, thanks much!
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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: KrishnaDreamer]
#22412413 - 10/21/15 07:04 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Not to be too much of an advocate because these drugs obviously literally alter your body, but, many professional athletes get into steroids because many sports injuries heal in half the time when you are on them.
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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: Asante]
#22412427 - 10/21/15 07:10 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah, no problems here, knowledge is power. I'd be ignorant if I just said no without discovering the pros and cons (which you've done for me, thanks.).
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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: Masked]
#22412460 - 10/21/15 07:29 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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if I did, packing on muscle would be stupidly easy
Steroids arent a magic pill where *poof* you are jacked. It still takes major dedication and a solid workout program
Do steroids make it 'easier' to pack on muscle if you are willing to put in the work? Definitely. But like mescalean said, it levels the playing field where genetics stop short. Genetics are everything
Side note: I thought you were permed?
No, lol. And I looked through this thread and couldn't find anything posted by mescalean. I lift weights for over an hour a day and eat a great diet for body building. I am far far far away from my genetic potential, but roids would speed up the process easily 300%. Even natural supplements that boost testosterone would greatly expediate my muscle growth. So yeah, doing a cycle of anabolic roids would basically turn me into the hulk pretty damn fast.
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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: Webster10]
#22412470 - 10/21/15 07:33 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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300%
You are mislead and I find this highly unlikely. 30%....maybe 50% is more realistic
Which is still nothing to sneeze at mind u
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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: Masked]
#22412483 - 10/21/15 07:40 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm an oyster farmer and that shit is an extreme manual labor job. They get pretty fucking heavy after 10 dozen in a bag and then deal with over 300 bags a day. So I have been thinking of taking protein to make it a workout as well.
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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: Sade]
#22412489 - 10/21/15 07:43 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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roids would speed up the process easily 300%
Steroids aren't Ben & Jerry's for bodybuilders. You don;t just eat it and gain weight like a motherfucker.
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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
#22412602 - 10/21/15 08:18 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have been doing oral steroid cycles for about 15 years. I do both bulking & cutting cycles, depending what my goal is, which is usually you do a bulk cycle to put on as much mass as possible, then after some time off doing a cutting cycle to shrink-wrap the muscle I put on.
I religiously take liver detox and many herbal anti-oxidants morning & night, even when not doing cycles. I have never had any sides or health issues due to them.
Do a lot of studying before beginning any PED's... Know your shit.
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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: RobZombie68]
#22412703 - 10/21/15 08:50 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Jeez, so many to choose from... And this is just a short list, the entire list is more than twice the length. I do see the oxandrolone Asante was talking about so that's cool. That's probably what put me off was the amount of chemicals that could potentially fuck you up if you don't know what you're doing.
Nolvadex Dianabol Masteron Enan Oxandrolone Oxymetholone Superdrol Nandrolone phenylpropiate Stanozolol Testosterone Acetate
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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: KrishnaDreamer]
#22412719 - 10/21/15 08:55 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dianabol Masteron Oxandrolone Oxymetholone Nandrolone Stanozolol Testosterone Acetate
Cleaned up your list, removed nonsteroids and weaksauce.
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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: Asante]
#22413589 - 10/21/15 12:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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roids would speed up the process easily 300%
Steroids aren't Ben & Jerry's for bodybuilders. You don;t just eat it and gain weight like a motherfucker.
yeah, you kind of do. I'm in college, so as you can imagine I work out with a lot of meat heads. And after seeing my buddy's max on the bench go from 250 to 325 in a month after starting animal stack, I now realize the power of supplements. Animal stack isn't even a "real" anabolic steroid btw. The real shit would've really made his progress insane. 300% is a bit of an overstatement but I'd pack on muscle easily 200% as fast. Easily.
Steroids might not do much for the average joe who is lazy, eats like shit and doesn't exercise. But for someone like me, who lifts heavy for over an hour a day, lives an active lifestyle and eats like a motherfucking monster, roids would boost my performance a ridiculous amount. It's an exponential effect. Be small and take roids, and you'll get a bit bigger if you put in some effort. Be bigger, constantly put in effort, take roids and it will tear down that anabolic wall that genetics builds up, turning you into a fucking beast if you stay at it.
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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: Webster10]
#22413639 - 10/21/15 12:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Was forced to take steroids during my football years. Many regrets years later.
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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: Webster10]
#22414698 - 10/21/15 05:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Asante said: I recommend against using "athletic" amounts of anabolic steroids and instead go for medicinal amounts which tend to create qualitative improvements rather than bulking up.
If you want to get into serious bulking and have a dream run, go for 400mg injected testosterone a week including PCT etc.for 8-12 weeks.
If you just want to firm up without growing, thats what 5-10mg Oxandrolone orally a day for 4 week runs with intervals is made for. Its very popular because its so benign.
400 a week... I'd say 300 is perfect ammount... keep it there.
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roids would speed up the process easily 300%
Steroids aren't Ben & Jerry's for bodybuilders. You don;t just eat it and gain weight like a motherfucker.
yeah, you kind of do. I'm in college, so as you can imagine I work out with a lot of meat heads. And after seeing my buddy's max on the bench go from 250 to 325 in a month after starting animal stack, I now realize the power of supplements. Animal stack isn't even a "real" anabolic steroid btw. The real shit would've really made his progress insane. 300% is a bit of an overstatement but I'd pack on muscle easily 200% as fast. Easily.
Steroids might not do much for the average joe who is lazy, eats like shit and doesn't exercise. But for someone like me, who lifts heavy for over an hour a day, lives an active lifestyle and eats like a motherfucking monster, roids would boost my performance a ridiculous amount. It's an exponential effect. Be small and take roids, and you'll get a bit bigger if you put in some effort. Be bigger, constantly put in effort, take roids and it will tear down that anabolic wall that genetics builds up, turning you into a fucking beast if you stay at it.
Animal stack is actually pretty good as far as herbals go but I guarentee it was way more than that animal stack that got your buddies bench up. Like you said you guys eat like animals. That's a big part of it. If you ate like bitches his bench would have gone up maybe 10 lbs if any.
OP you need to do some serious reading. Take it from someone who has been around fitness their whole life and has gained an interest in anabolism over the last few years.
I am glad to see that responsible steroid use is losing the negative stigma though.
IMO if anyone is to use hormones GO CONSULT A SPORTS MEDICINE PROFESSIONAL.
They will guide you through any problems every step of the cycle. Having problems with excess estrogen on the cycle they can help with that. They are Dr's who specialize in athletics. Take advantage of their services.
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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: Mescalean]
#22414723 - 10/21/15 05:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Good call on the sports medicine pro, I will probably contact someone like that. I probably won't take them under the table, but does I may go to a professional and see if I can take oxandrolone or some other drug to increase my red blood cell count and therefore increase my endurance.
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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
#22414732 - 10/21/15 05:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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anyone have any advice for getting a script for Oxandrolone or similar drug?
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