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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
    #22408434 - 10/20/15 09:33 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: Asante]
    #22408448 - 10/20/15 09:36 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Testosterone and Steroids have a nad rap in america from propaganda. It's a familiar trend I think. This notion that you arent 'enough' of you take a hormone, or even creatine. There are many viable, safe ways to enhance performamce and optemise biology. It can be done safly if one has longevity in mind. I avoid testosterome now, but when I hit moddle age, time to supploment. Nothing against taking such though. Be the best you can be.


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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
    #22408665 - 10/20/15 10:24 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Dude if you get athletic drug tests then DON'T, they can find the minutest trace of steroids if they test for them.


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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
    #22409480 - 10/20/15 02:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Don't smoke then. And don't go immediately for anabolic steroids man. You don't need that shit unless you lost a testicle or you're like 50 and unlucky with low T.

I assume you live at a lower elevation in NE or wherever. Personally I live at about 6,000 feet and the elevation does wonders for my cardio. Since moving up a mountain probably isn't an option, maybe get an elevation mask or something? I don't know much about those because I've never had to use one.

Get some creatine, eat protein. Make sure you get a good diet for what you're trying to do, it really makes a difference. I just don't think you need PEDs man, especially when you're probably like 20.


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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: Asante]
    #22410019 - 10/20/15 04:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I have none. I was given the bottle for free by a friend for having another friend blast some old trimming into shatter. It was like here you can have this. I thought I'd be able to sell it fast considering it's fucking Winstrol. Almost had it sold but then the person couldn't get Testosterone to use with it because I guess you need to combine both to prevent bullshit side effects. I have a rather large bottle thats like 50mg/ml or some shit I forgot. If an Apocalypse ever happens I'll begin to use it lol.


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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: Gorlax]
    #22410191 - 10/20/15 04:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Cowb0yNeal00 said:
I play college sports and they do random drug tests. Oxandrolone Seems good for starts, maybe ill try it in the offseason or until i learn more about the random drug tests. Thx. I also think i natutally have less red blood cells then the average person so this would help my endurance. By the way i am in shape, judt get out of breath easily for some reason.




Your drug use may just be the reason you are out of breath easily.


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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: Supachopped719]
    #22410641 - 10/20/15 06:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Cowb0yNeal00 said:
I play college sports and they do random drug tests. Oxandrolone Seems good for starts, maybe ill try it in the offseason or until i learn more about the random drug tests. Thx. I also think i natutally have less red blood cells then the average person so this would help my endurance. By the way i am in shape, judt get out of breath easily for some reason.




Your drug use may just be the reason you are out of breath easily.



I've been sober for weeks now :smile:


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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: Asante]
    #22410707 - 10/20/15 06:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Actually yes, I have some limited experience with using Stanozolol (winstrol), an anabolic steroid, in quite low doses. I used this to recover from injuries, about once a year, for some years.

Lately I have been thinking of getting a few grams of Oxandrolone (Anavar) for the same purpose.

Now though, I actually exercise (swimming) so I think it will have some performance enhancement qualities.

Oxandrolone is superior to Stanozolol in terms of tolerability, low side effects and its easier on your natural testosterone. It doesnt shut your natural test down in modest doses (only 50% at 20mg doses) and as a big big plus: it is far less toxic to the liver. Its also weaker than Stanozolol but, you get a better drug for it.

It doesnt aromatize so no gyno (growing breasts) and you don't retain water. Stanozolol shares that property.

Neither one requires injection, neither are bulking but rather cutting steroids. If you gain weight, its lean muscle mass.

Its got those highly enticing properties of most steroids, that they strengthen just about any tissue in your body including bone density and speed recovery.

With winstrol I was doing 2mg doses for a few weeks, with anavar, if I decide to do it, I'll probably try the therapeutic ratio of 5-10mg daily.

I'm not after turning into he-man, I'm just an obese guy who is dieting and exercising and who wants to optimize fat loss, minimize muscle loss or even gain some, strengten all my tissues including bone and have superior recovery in case of sports injury.

If its a little boost in performance you are after and you are not competing with anyone but yourself, look into modest doses of Oxandrolone.

Oh, these are of course Schedule III anabolic steroids, they outlawed all the good stuff.





Great post and gives me some good food for thought.  I've never even considered it until reading this.  I will look into it more thoroughly


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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
    #22411027 - 10/20/15 08:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I saw you say you ate like 6gs of kratom the other day :aweshit:


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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: The Moose]
    #22411081 - 10/20/15 08:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I saw you say you ate like 6gs of kratom the other day :aweshit:



ehh kratom is a drug? I just tried it a couple times this week.  I barely felt it to be honest.
I used to smoke weed heavy and haven't for weeks.
Sorry and I also take a prespscribed med for adhd. 
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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
    #22411184 - 10/20/15 08:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

My take on performance enhancing drugs is this, any results I get from them would be fake, the results wouldn't be because I was amazing at something, but instead a drug was amazing at something.

That is lame I think.  The sense of accomplishment I get from running a half marathon is a drug all on its own, that feeling motivates me to keep trying hard to become harder, better, faster, stronger.



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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: Lucis]
    #22411199 - 10/20/15 08:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

ehhh i know but you can say the same thing for caffeine if your trying to get work done or whatever. I just want to see if it is as bad as it seems. lol. at low doses of course


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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
    #22411208 - 10/20/15 08:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Sorry if I came off as rude, that was not my intention, just for myself I wont partake of anything.  Do as thou wilt, your life my man.

I have always consumed a lot of caffeine though, don't know if it helps or not.


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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: Lucis]
    #22411225 - 10/20/15 08:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Sorry if I came off as rude, that was not my intention, just for myself I wont partake of anything.  Do as thou wilt, your life my man.

I have always consumed a lot of caffeine though, don't know if it helps or not.



you didn't seem rude at all lol. Yea a lot of people take caffeine to work more efficiently, so its just a similar comparison.

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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: The Moose]
    #22411392 - 10/20/15 09:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Cowb0yNeal00 said:
what test?



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FruitOfLife said:
Testosterone








For the love of God OP this right here tells me you should just stop where you are and start doing a lot of reading on your endocrine system.


How old are you even?

What sport are you playing?


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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: Lucis]
    #22411411 - 10/20/15 09:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Fennario said:
My take on performance enhancing drugs is this, any results I get from them would be fake, the results wouldn't be because I was amazing at something, but instead a drug was amazing at something.

That is lame I think.  The sense of accomplishment I get from running a half marathon is a drug all on its own, that feeling motivates me to keep trying hard to become harder, better, faster, stronger.







There are other reasons for steroids or performance enhancers like genetic limitation. You still put in the same amount of hard work. hormones and the like help with recovery and protein synthesis.

Another interesting way to look at it is performance enhancers level the playing field that genetics can drastically skew.


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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: Mescalean]
    #22411467 - 10/20/15 09:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

If a tranny can inject themselves with estrodiol because they don't like their body then why wouldn't a male be able to inject test to be more manly. Adding, also then why would one be considered extremely bad for the body while the other being medically accepted. Oh yeah it's not it's just prejudice to assume so. Steroids and other things similar aren't going to make you better at anything they will just add muscle and the rest is up to you. If you took roids and did nothing you'd just get fucking fat.


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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: Gorlax]
    #22411500 - 10/20/15 10:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Steroids don't "add" muscle.  They help the process. You still have to put in extreme amounts of effort, time and dedication. 

Mescalean said it well enough.  Once I reach my genetic peak, I will consider it.


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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: Masked]
    #22411509 - 10/20/15 10:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: anyone try Performance-enhancing drugs? [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
    #22411590 - 10/20/15 10:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I would consider it a drug. You are or were taking it with the intent to get high :shrug:

Not smoking will really help your lungs, but it will take them some time to recover.

IMO the adhd pills won't matter as long as you take them as prescribed.

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