|
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
|
Bodhi of Ankou
*alternate opinion blocks path*


Registered: 06/02/09
Posts: 24,778
Loc: Soviet Canukistan
|
Just got a package in the mail today 1
#22405741 - 10/19/15 09:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
The second and final component of my ayahuasca brew finally arrived out of Lima Peru. Im a little excited, and nervous. I wont have time to take it properly till well after christmas but its here! Last time I attempted it I managed to down about half a cup of mimosa and rue, which isnt considered legit but I could feel the raw amount of power in it in the brief buzz it gave me. This time its gonna be the real deal of cappi vine and chacruna leaves. Anyone else experienced with this stuff?
|
thewanderer25
Special Karma



Registered: 08/11/13
Posts: 1,642
Loc: Hyperspace
Last seen: 8 years, 2 months
|
Re: Just got a package in the mail today [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#22405967 - 10/19/15 10:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I am its a great experience it's truly liberating. Might I suggest a bump in caapi the teks I have seen have it so it's not dosed properly. They do that for a reason though but the real ayahuasca has a lot more caapi for a good reason. To go into the trip fully you will need a lot of caapi however the true expense is rather scary I think the teks scaled down caapi to prevent people from going in 100% without the presence of a trained professional (aka a shaman).
Also it is necessary with the caapi to go on a real MAOI diet its not like rue. It will also last longer than rue upwards of an hour if dosed properly. Also the shamans have a set method of 2 boils they always let the lady go first (caapi) then the man follows (chacruna). Its traditional to hit the caapi vine with another caapi vine splitting it into peaces. The leaves are usually added whole after the caapi. It is put in a large pot and water is added supposedly the water they get was from the amazon so it had a lower PH however i've been told that the amazon has been flooded with toxic waste from cocaine production so I don't think they do that anymore. Anyway you boil it on the open fire for 12 hours or till its down to a murky liquid that the bottom you then collect the liquid and boil one more time again 12 hours. You then take the two collections and boil that down till its dosed at 50ml a person (although I find a shot of 25ml is better but it will make it thick as mud and hard to drink especially if lemon was used to lower the PH ).
However hipsters in san francisco use a crock pot to brew their ayahuasca but I think that is a bad way to do it. You must spend time with the brew for the brew to spend time with you its only fair. I would recommend playing this as the brew boils it was the best melody to the experience I have had yet. Try and go in with a question the mother will show you the answers you seek (as long as they're not stupid like "what will I get for my birthday" or something try and treat the expense as the most important thing you will ever do). Also this video explains how the brew is boiled although I don't trust this "shaman" as far as I could throw him.
|
Eggtimer
HotSauce Lover

Registered: 05/04/13
Posts: 3,097
Last seen: 4 days, 37 minutes
|
Re: Just got a package in the mail today [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#22405992 - 10/19/15 10:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Nope I really want to though I'm scared to take the plunge. I've smoked about 2 grams of DMT this year since I discovered it but haven't really been able to touch it lately been giving most of what I have to the uninitiated.
It's so powerful even when I do want to smoke it I have a hard time making myself go all in even though I want to, it's crazy
-------------------- It's all for the s
|
SnowDaze
Probably Relapsing on Heroin



Registered: 02/24/13
Posts: 5,996
Loc: Home, Home Again....
Last seen: 5 months, 12 days
|
Re: Just got a package in the mail today [Re: Eggtimer]
#22406017 - 10/19/15 10:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I feel the same way. I have wanted to try it but I've just been too scared to ever actually do it?
A 6-8 hour dmt experience sounds intimidating
--------------------
If you get confused, listen to the music play
|
thewanderer25
Special Karma



Registered: 08/11/13
Posts: 1,642
Loc: Hyperspace
Last seen: 8 years, 2 months
|
Re: Just got a package in the mail today [Re: Eggtimer] 1
#22406049 - 10/19/15 10:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Eggtimer said: Nope I really want to though I'm scared to take the plunge. I've smoked about 2 grams of DMT this year since I discovered it but haven't really been able to touch it lately been giving most of what I have to the uninitiated.
It's so powerful even when I do want to smoke it I have a hard time making myself go all in even though I want to, it's crazy
Ayahuasca and freebase DMT are very different feelings and visuals. DMT is cold and metallic I find it to be like a thought processing plant (like a meat processing plant but for your brain) it always leaves me feeling shocked and unsure what just happened kinda like I got hit by a car or something. Ayahuasca is a lot like a dream and its a beautiful dream you will remember and understand on a deep level. The visuals are not out of this world 100% usually I find myself becoming an animal in the jungle and always learn a valuable lesson. The jungle is always surreal and doesn't make a lot of since you will find yourself transiting from one vision to another without realizing it but its not that rapid flashing feeling you get from freebase DMT. Also parts of it you will be halfway here halfway there you can always feel it when you leave and the voice will beckon you before you go. It may be a voice or sometimes the sounds of jungle birds but I always know before im gone. Its in no way like freebase DMT its kinda like a drawn out version of heavy MAOI changa.
|
thewanderer25
Special Karma



Registered: 08/11/13
Posts: 1,642
Loc: Hyperspace
Last seen: 8 years, 2 months
|
Re: Just got a package in the mail today [Re: SnowDaze]
#22406308 - 10/19/15 11:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
SnowDaze said: I feel the same way. I have wanted to try it but I've just been too scared to ever actually do it?
A 6-8 hour dmt experience sounds intimidating
The longest ive had visions was 4 hours, and half of that was tossing around in my bed hearing sweet voices telling me the truth about life and happiness. You can feel it for 6 but usually you only see stuff at 1.5 hours and that lasts about 3 hours (usually) the rest is you coming back at peace and mediating into your new thoughts. Its nothing like mushrooms DMT always felt like mushrooms to me but ayahuasca feels real. It feels real the same way a dream does you get so caught up in the moment you forget your dreaming meditation helps to give you more visuals because your mind needs to be calm to drift into the other side 100%. If I vape DMT it doesn't matter if im having a panic attack I will leave, my thoughts will be torn to pieces, and I will be left with just the visions like im a camera and all I can do is record. Ayahuasca feels a lot more meaningful I found my piece in the jungle but ive once again lost it in this world. I need to go back this thread reminded me of the powers of ayahuasca I think I will brew more in a couple days.
|
Bodhi of Ankou
*alternate opinion blocks path*


Registered: 06/02/09
Posts: 24,778
Loc: Soviet Canukistan
|
Re: Just got a package in the mail today [Re: thewanderer25]
#22406680 - 10/19/15 11:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I bought 100 grams of chacruna and half a pounnd of caapi, how much should I use of each for a single person?
|
SnowDaze
Probably Relapsing on Heroin



Registered: 02/24/13
Posts: 5,996
Loc: Home, Home Again....
Last seen: 5 months, 12 days
|
Re: Just got a package in the mail today [Re: thewanderer25]
#22406704 - 10/19/15 11:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
thewanderer25 said:
Quote:
SnowDaze said: I feel the same way. I have wanted to try it but I've just been too scared to ever actually do it?
A 6-8 hour dmt experience sounds intimidating
The longest ive had visions was 4 hours, and half of that was tossing around in my bed hearing sweet voices telling me the truth about life and happiness. You can feel it for 6 but usually you only see stuff at 1.5 hours and that lasts about 3 hours (usually) the rest is you coming back at peace and mediating into your new thoughts. Its nothing like mushrooms DMT always felt like mushrooms to me but ayahuasca feels real. It feels real the same way a dream does you get so caught up in the moment you forget your dreaming meditation helps to give you more visuals because your mind needs to be calm to drift into the other side 100%. If I vape DMT it doesn't matter if im having a panic attack I will leave, my thoughts will be torn to pieces, and I will be left with just the visions like im a camera and all I can do is record. Ayahuasca feels a lot more meaningful I found my piece in the jungle but ive once again lost it in this world. I need to go back this thread reminded me of the powers of ayahuasca I think I will brew more in a couple days. 
I guess I need to read up on oral dmt more
--------------------
If you get confused, listen to the music play
|
voodoochild1000
psychonautic



Registered: 02/04/15
Posts: 2,531
Loc: Cascades!
Last seen: 8 months, 15 days
|
Re: Just got a package in the mail today [Re: SnowDaze]
#22408483 - 10/20/15 09:45 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
It sounds amazing ...can't wait !
-------------------- ....."So Great!"....-Me on 1.5mg LSD ...."We don't need this" -Larkin in response to my "just picked wild LSD!" post
|
thewanderer25
Special Karma



Registered: 08/11/13
Posts: 1,642
Loc: Hyperspace
Last seen: 8 years, 2 months
|
Re: Just got a package in the mail today [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#22411561 - 10/20/15 10:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Bodhi of Ankou said: I bought 100 grams of chacruna and half a pounnd of caapi, how much should I use of each for a single person?
It really depends on how far you are willing to go. In the jungle they dose people from 100 grams of caapi all the way to 300 grams of caapi this is why a diet is necessary for the expanse. The chacruna can go to 100 grams as well but it depends on what you seek. a 300 gram and 25 gram mix would be a good does but so would a 100 gram 100 gram. If you smoke weed do you like indica or sativa or hybrids?
|
Bodhi of Ankou
*alternate opinion blocks path*


Registered: 06/02/09
Posts: 24,778
Loc: Soviet Canukistan
|
Re: Just got a package in the mail today [Re: thewanderer25]
#22411578 - 10/20/15 10:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Sativa mainly. I dont like the laziness of Indica, I got far too much shit to do in my life.
Im looking for the real deal, I dont want any half shots but I dont wanna do so much that I start getting hit with sensory overload. Im not scared to be mentally thrashed. I've had it happen enough times on weaker psychdelics already, along with all the pain Ive already felt in real life I dont think anything it throws at me could be any worse then what I've already experienced.
|
thewanderer25
Special Karma



Registered: 08/11/13
Posts: 1,642
Loc: Hyperspace
Last seen: 8 years, 2 months
|
Re: Just got a package in the mail today [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#22411639 - 10/20/15 10:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Try a 150 gram to 200 gram amount of caapi and a 50 to 75 gram amount of chacruna for a light does. Or, if your stomach can handle it and your mind is ready 300 grams of caapi and 100 grams of chacruna would take you in 100% lower than that and you will still go but not as far as you would from peruvian brew.
Be careful though caapi is not something to play around with try and make a 300 gram brew of just caapi and drink it slowly and feel the effects without DMT. Once you feel super dizzy and sick that is the proper does for you and your body. You may need less than 100 grams or more than 300 but most people are somewhere in between so in peru they compensate by putting it at 300 which is enough for anyone on a MAOI diet. The chacruna will be the vision part so once you know your dose of caapi add 100 grams of chacruna and you will go 100%. I have faith in you to do the right thing I cant tell you how to listen to her words but I can hope you will. Anyways
|
voodoochild1000
psychonautic



Registered: 02/04/15
Posts: 2,531
Loc: Cascades!
Last seen: 8 months, 15 days
|
Re: Just got a package in the mail today [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#22412613 - 10/21/15 08:22 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Bodhi of Ankou said: Sativa mainly. I dont like the laziness of Indica, I got far too much shit to do in my life.
Im looking for the real deal, I dont want any half shots but I dont wanna do so much that I start getting hit with sensory overload. Im not scared to be mentally thrashed. I've had it happen enough times on weaker psychdelics already, along with all the pain Ive already felt in real life I dont think anything it throws at me could be any worse then what I've already experienced.
....careful what u ask for! ......go deep...b safe!
-------------------- ....."So Great!"....-Me on 1.5mg LSD ...."We don't need this" -Larkin in response to my "just picked wild LSD!" post
|
Agentchewy
Pantheism.


Registered: 12/12/12
Posts: 3,960
Loc: vietnam
Last seen: 1 year, 4 months
|
|
Ive got some awesome music from local south american artists saved on my computer. If youre not doing ayahuasca to that kind of music youre doing it wrong. Even if you don't speak the language you'll get the message. Check out this site for all the authentic sounds; http://sacredvalleytribe.com/medicine-songs/
Keep in mind this website offers these songs for no charge and out of respect for the artist do not publish this music as we hold no rights to it.
Check out the song caminito de llamas by Eduardo y german.
Buenos suertes por tus suenos de amor y muertes!
--------------------
If I knew the way, I would take you home.
|
Agentchewy
Pantheism.


Registered: 12/12/12
Posts: 3,960
Loc: vietnam
Last seen: 1 year, 4 months
|
Re: Just got a package in the mail today [Re: Agentchewy]
#22412782 - 10/21/15 09:10 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
By the way scroll down till you get to the buddhist portion and the strictly instrumental.!
its magical stuff
--------------------
If I knew the way, I would take you home.
|
thewanderer25
Special Karma



Registered: 08/11/13
Posts: 1,642
Loc: Hyperspace
Last seen: 8 years, 2 months
|
Re: Just got a package in the mail today [Re: Agentchewy]
#22415395 - 10/21/15 07:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I don't think thier is a wrong way to do it. Thier is better ways but no wrong way except being irasbonsible with it.
|
|