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This pinset sucks..
    #22405654 - 10/19/15 09:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

There are some tubs where everything seems effortless and looks great.
Then I have this tub. The spawn was healthy. Looks healthy. Fully colonized in 12 days and spawned at 100% colonization. I don't know what to do to get a nice pinset on it. I think it's too late to have a nice pinset but I'm tired of picking a few fruits everyday whenever they mature. Ain't nobody got time fo dat.
I loosened my bottom holes today, removed polyfil from a top hole 2 days ago.
I'm thinking maybe not enough fae. I also turned on a room fan. Wtf? Can anyone help me out here? This is so annoying.  :wtfsonic:



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Re: This pinset sucks.. [Re: jbaby007]
    #22405670 - 10/19/15 09:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

How did you inoculate your substrate and how much spawn did you use?


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Re: This pinset sucks.. [Re: GoblinKing]
    #22405683 - 10/19/15 09:29 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Agar>wbs. Cvg, 1:2


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Re: This pinset sucks.. [Re: jbaby007]
    #22405713 - 10/19/15 09:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Looks dry. If you don't case you need them bottom holes dialed in tight and fans are something you should avoid unless you live in a humid climate. Dial in better next time and consider a casing. Casings provide a better pinning platform in addition to a nice micro climate. Prolific pinning genetics sometimes won't need one but with ms I usually rock a casing.


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Re: This pinset sucks.. [Re: jbaby007]
    #22405719 - 10/19/15 09:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: This pinset sucks.. [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #22405731 - 10/19/15 09:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Echoing Pasty... Start casing.


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Re: This pinset sucks.. [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #22405749 - 10/19/15 09:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Beads of water are covering the entire thing. My bottom holes have been rock solid tight until today and I figured since one of the main pinning triggers is evaporation off the substrate, I didn't have enough evaporation so I turned on the fan. I've had great pinsets without casings in the past with ms genetics that's why I'm so confused with this one. I've also read many have had great success without casing and that they aren't necessary with cubes unless it's PE or a different species.


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Re: This pinset sucks.. [Re: jbaby007]
    #22405764 - 10/19/15 09:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

They might not be necessary, but they can still be beneficial.

They allow some leeway for sure


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Re: This pinset sucks.. [Re: jbaby007]
    #22405771 - 10/19/15 09:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

It's super dry. The little balls of moisture on the cottony mycelium aren't enough. I would mist it, a lot, and hit it hard enough with the water to make that mycelium lay down flat.

And no go on the cutting of your mushrooms. Twist them and pull them up. Those stumps will most likely rot and contaminate.


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Re: This pinset sucks.. [Re: tahoe]
    #22405796 - 10/19/15 09:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Well I misted the shit out of it.
The struggle is real though. I guess I still get confused with some of the info I read on this site.
Some people say they cut, others twist and pull.
I found it pretty easy to twist and pull my PE without messing up the substrate.
With these though, they are kinda in there so when I twist and pull, the bring up a little bit of the sub. From my understanding, that exposed sub is prone to contaminate and any stumps left over from cutting usually recolonize with myc instead of rotting immediately since they are made of myc.
So which one is it? Twist and pull or cut with scissors? I feel like I need to go back to cakes at this point lmao. I'm feeling hella noobish right now and upset with my progress.


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Re: This pinset sucks.. [Re: jbaby007]
    #22405807 - 10/19/15 10:00 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Try both and see. I and many other tc's pull.


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Re: This pinset sucks.. [Re: jbaby007]
    #22405826 - 10/19/15 10:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I have had stumps contam on me lots.  Rarely do divots contam simply because there are divots. I used to cut. Never again. Its a time consuming PITA.

As for pinset, welcome to ms, sometimes it shits the bed and needs help. Casing is one way to do that. No matter how the tub was dialed in it has the look of a dry tub. Also a casing isn't just for microclimate. Like I said above it provides a better pinning surface. This is for a few reasons.


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Re: This pinset sucks.. [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #22405849 - 10/19/15 10:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I only ever cut one tub after pulling for yearz. Fuck that. Twist and pull


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Re: This pinset sucks.. [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #22405869 - 10/19/15 10:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Alright. Pulling and casing every time it is then lol.
I guess my understanding of a moist tub is messed up. I figured beads of water (period) meant that the moisture content was fine. I'll be searching for some pics of good monos to get a better understanding of what my surface should look like.
Thanks guys for taking time to help me understand my noobish ways :dawerp:


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Re: This pinset sucks.. [Re: jbaby007]
    #22405931 - 10/19/15 10:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Today's pics.


Picking instead of cutting. The surface is in great shape.



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Re: This pinset sucks.. [Re: tahoe]
    #22406019 - 10/19/15 10:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

:rockon: Thanks Tahoe. Yeah your sub surface still looks great.
Crossing my fingers and hoping that my mono won't get jacked up by these stumps :rolleyes:

Edit: Your tub has no holes?


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Re: This pinset sucks.. [Re: jbaby007]
    #22406753 - 10/19/15 11:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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:rockon: Thanks Tahoe. Yeah your sub surface still looks great.
Crossing my fingers and hoping that my mono won't get jacked up by these stumps :rolleyes:

Edit: Your tub has no holes?




I bet you could still pull up your stumps. Just wash your hands and go for it. You will not hurt the surface of you touch it.

There are 4 half inch holes at the surface level. You can see one behind a mushroom in the before picture. I usually don't use holes. Its easier to keep the surface wet for better pin set without holes. But highly not recommended by others


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Re: This pinset sucks.. [Re: tahoe]
    #22406830 - 10/20/15 12:15 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Most others simply have not tried no holes.


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Re: This pinset sucks.. [Re: cronicr]
    #22406848 - 10/20/15 12:21 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I noticed a difference in RH just changing to a thicker plastic.

That's why I said "JESUS" when I heard someone talk about open air :V

There was a reason they were covered and they didn't have too much CO2.

Though there is something to be said about the ROS.

(I still haven't figured this out but I have some experiments planned.)


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Re: This pinset sucks.. [Re: micro]
    #22406939 - 10/20/15 12:44 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Remember varying RH (surface evaporation) can be a big pining trigger as well, open up to much FAE and you kinda lose that. Keep making adjustments, but remember it may just be bad genetics.


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