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Re: First pins. [Re: DrCrumbs] * 1
    #22413266 - 10/21/15 11:07 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Yeah tons of conflicting info, its tough. Cubes grow well and easy, people find they like different approaches.




Try this...

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Step 1: Use The Search Function (UTSF)
   




I get no conflicting info doing this...


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Re: First pins. [Re: Mad Season]
    #22414327 - 10/21/15 04:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Really? No conflicting information at all? Because I regularly search things and find very experienced cultivators offering conflicting advice. And how exactly, other than the TC tag, am I supposed to know that a response to another list is the right answer? You may have been a part of this forum for a very long time and know whose opinions to trust and not trust, but I don't. Just look at this thread for example, the initial advice I was given was to use paper towels to soak up water below my liner. Clearly I'm trying to do things correctly and have been searching things like crazy but when I read multiple different opinions and get to a point that the info is older than 2 years old, I'm posting my question. You may have heard it before. Forgive me. But isn't this a forum with an archive and not just an archive?

I'm sorry. I think it's my lunch time and I'm cranky as shit. But I use the search feature regularly.


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Re: First pins. [Re: DrCrumbs]
    #22414343 - 10/21/15 04:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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It'll still fruit fine.

Yeah tons of conflicting info, its tough. Cubes grow well and easy, people find they like different approaches.

So the tote flexed?
I have some that do that easily, I hate it and why I dont like stacking some totes. Others stack them way up and move them around no problem. I've cracked some over the years and they turn out just fine. Probably wont see many more aborts than you normally would.




Yeah, I have been good about not moving them too much but the liner has started to pull away from the side as it has been shrinking with the substrate. The bottom of the tub is not perfectly flat. When I reached in to gently slide the paper towel in I tipped a corner of the substrate! Lesson learned. The tubs seem pretty solid as far as for stacking and slow lateral movements.

I think I'm just hypersensitive because these are my first. I have barely even looked at the second pair current colonizing. Thanks for your help guys.


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Re: First pins. [Re: Kalistis]
    #22414446 - 10/21/15 04:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

If you fill out the fields indicated on the screenshot that mad season posted you will get for the most part good and current info. Not all experienced people are going to agree on everything anyway. Nothing you can do but go based on results and ratings if the TC tag isn't enough for you.  As far as the crack goes it shouldn't hurt anything, some species need to be beat up a bit before they will pin. I have busted subs into multiple pieces and still had a decent flush.


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Re: First pins. [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #22414665 - 10/21/15 05:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

:whathesaid:

Idk what you're even saying. Youre complaining because the only way to find the right answers is the tc tag and stuff is outdated.. Correct? Well I gave you a screenshot that won't find anything older than 2 years old, eliminating outdated advice.. how to see single threads at a time, and posts ONLY posted by TCs.. Did you not click the pics I provided? Because I seriously don't get what you're saying. You shouldn't have problems.. Because I never have problems using the search function. Click it again:



And if you notice, on the bottom it says save these settings. I'd recommend clicking it when youve put it all in


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Re: First pins. [Re: Mad Season]
    #22415102 - 10/21/15 06:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

No, you are clearly misunderstanding me or not reading what I am writing. I do use the search tool. I read through results from present date up to 2 years ago. It seems a lot changes in a short amount of time. I did not say that I cannot find anything newer than 2 years ago. I also search for TC posts. I appreciate that you think I am being lazy or ignorant of the tools of the website, but that simply isn't the case.

When I ask a question in a forum, giving me a screen shot and instructions on how to do something I already do is frustrating. I'm sure answering repetitive questions is also pretty frustrating on your part. Sometimes noobs need the reassurance that everything is going to be ok. That's why I really do appreciate having an open forum like shroomery.


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Re: First pins. [Re: Kalistis]
    #22415111 - 10/21/15 06:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I haven't been saving my settings. That is definitely helpful. Thank you.


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Re: First pins. [Re: Kalistis]
    #22415186 - 10/21/15 07:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Well I've been growing with Mono's for a good 5 years, I've never heard of slipping paper towels under it... :lol: I have left it overly wet, and I've also tipped a tub gently so everything comes out without damaging the sub as well. Very rarely would I say tipping is necessary. But I'd never use paper towels. Hell I just leave any puddles as is normally, and just up the fae a ton instead of dabbing with paper towels. Although dabbing works too. Hope that helps a bit.


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Re: First pins. [Re: Mad Season]
    #22415557 - 10/21/15 08:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Everything looks okay today. I was surprised that there was no bruising from cracking the substrate. Pins are still popping up. The first few pins are getting bigger. I moved one of the bind from a bedroom with a fan to a larger room that gets better air flow and stays cooler. The other is outside. The conditions are perfect and I am playing around with dialing in my tubs in different environments. I have to say that the tub that was moved outside looks healthier today. The aerial mycelium that had built up in the corners seems to have mellowed out a bit and I came home to more knots and pins.

I did notice that some of my pins look mutated- split from one stalk and some with white caps. I know I used MS, so genetically things like this is to be expected, but could it also be a sign that my conditions aren't right?I haven't seen many Golden Teacher grows with white pins.


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Re: First pins. [Re: Kalistis]
    #22415583 - 10/21/15 08:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Maybe low rh?


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Re: First pins. [Re: Kalistis]
    #22419930 - 10/22/15 07:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Update- The 2 monotubs were clearly suffering from lack of FAE. That would explain why my caps were white, but once I moved them to a better environment and adjusted my polyfil within 24 hours the new growth on the white pins turned the right color. The new pins are also coming in the correct color. As I suspected, the uneven substrate is an issue. The pins are growing at the lower points where the moisture is dominant making clusters of pins, but they are growing and not aborting..... yet. Check out my crack in the substrate too...

The aerial mycelium is backing off a bit and I see more knots. What do you guys think?



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Re: First pins. [Re: Kalistis]
    #22419968 - 10/22/15 08:00 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The pics are poor but it looks like its getting dry. The pins were white from the universal veil. That is normal. You don't want to dry out the sub right now or you will kill the pinset. Give it a mist and get the bottom holes tight. You want tiny beads of water on the sub. Just mist in the air and let it fall on the sub. The aerial myc you had was nothing to really worry about either IMO. People seem to not know what is bad and what is normal. Up the FAE once the pinset is in. Its not there yet.

If you case your tubs you can blast the FAE but with an uncased mono you need to dial in more carefully.


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Re: First pins. [Re: Kalistis]
    #22419990 - 10/22/15 08:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Wanna see cracked? http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21715298

:lol: I'm sure you'll be fine. Just listen to my man pasty here


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Re: First pins. [Re: Mad Season]
    #22420086 - 10/22/15 08:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks Pasty! I'll tighten the bottom holes right now and give it a misting. It looks like there are beads of water all over the sub... should I take a closer pic?


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Re: First pins. [Re: Mad Season]
    #22420100 - 10/22/15 08:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Wanna see cracked? http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21715298

:lol: I'm sure you'll be fine. Just listen to my man pasty here




LOL pretty impressive cracks. There are like entire subcontinents in there.


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Re: First pins. [Re: Kalistis]
    #22423659 - 10/23/15 04:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Alright, so the dropped tun has some more metabolites and bruising on the corner where I touched the liner to try and get the paper towel under the liner. The pins are also maturing a lot faster in the tub. When I spawned my 12 jars, I put my 6 healthiest in 1 tub, and 5 lesser in the second tub. 1 jar I discarded. The tub with metabolites and faster maturing pins is the tub with the lesser quality jars. I don't know if that has anything to do with it or not.

The surface has droplets of water now, temps are at 75 degrees, and there is condensation on the side of the tubs except for just around the lower holes where the polyfil is.

The last two pictures are of my first 12 jars of spawned oats 12 days ago. All 12 jars of Malabar MS were spawned, but like the first 11 jars of GT to WBS, I divided the most healthy from those looking less healthy. Looks like I am getting close to fruiting them!



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