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Pi, Phi and the solar system
#22404701 - 10/19/15 06:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I wrote up this table with all the diameters of the planets (in km, but you can use any measurement, the ratio is the same)
mercury 4879.4 venus 12092 earth 12715.43 mars 6792 jupiter 138346.5 saturn 120536 neptune 49500 uranus 51118
395979.33 12715.43 equals 31.14116707024458 Pi multiplied by 10 equals 31.415.
These numbers aren't super accurate. Some sources would give one number, then another. Jupiter was an interesting one because the equator is widened, so it's not a sphere, but even earth is like that, the pole to pole circumference is shorter by a few hundred km than the equatorial circumference. My dad showed me this. I've only skimmed over it, a lot of it goes over my head, but the table showing periods of the planets and the numbers make sense to me
https://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2013/02/20/a-remarkable-discovery-all-solar-system-periods-fit-the-fibonacci-series-and-the-golden-ratio-why-phi/
I had a think about this, because these numbers are encoded in not just music, but musical scales. I talked about it with a friend, and he said it could just be random coincidence, like the pattern of a tree. I found that an odd example, because, lo and behold
http://www.wired.com/2010/09/fractal-patterns-in-nature/

there's a photo of something called Romanesco Broccoli. I am told that trees that align themselves to phi do it so all their leaves get the most sunlight exposure during the day, something that can be used to improve solar panel efficiency http://inhabitat.com/13-year-old-makes-solar-power-breakthrough-by-harnessing-the-fibonacci-sequence/
You can draw what conclusions you like from these numbers. I just find it very, very interesting and thought it'd be worth sharing for those of you who didn't know
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You forgot about Pluto. And the rest of the Kuiper belt. The Kuiper belt is three times larger than everything between the sun and Neptune combined, by the way.
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Re: Pi, Phi and the solar system [Re: Bacchus]
#22405016 - 10/19/15 07:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hmmm.
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Re: Pi, Phi and the solar system [Re: Bacchus]
#22408416 - 10/20/15 09:28 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bacchus said: You forgot about Pluto. And the rest of the Kuiper belt. The Kuiper belt is three times larger than everything between the sun and Neptune combined, by the way.
It's the hidden reason pluto got reclassified! If you include every bit of ice and rock in the oort cloud/kupier belt then you've got a sphere of roughly 1light year in diameter and who's got time to count all of that?
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That's my point. The coincidence that you brought up depends entirely on how you define what gets considered and what doesn't. It's meaningless.
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Re: Pi, Phi and the solar system [Re: Bacchus]
#22439399 - 10/27/15 09:28 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bacchus said: It's meaningless.
Yeah but, you know what? Let the dude explain it. Oh, hey, it doesn't have meaning until you put one on it.
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Quote:
Visionary Tools said: Pi multiplied by 10 equals 31.415
31.4159265358979323846264338
That's all I know >.<
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395979.33 12715.43 equals 31.14116707024458
Hmm... That's not what I'm getting >.>
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root@kali:~# dc
k 7
395979.33 12715.43 /
f 31.1416389378888484306075374564603
k 31 395979.33 12715.43 /
f 31.1416389378888484306075374564603
Also, why would 10 be significant?
This is the thing with numerology; if you look for patterns you're going to find them everywhere. "Hey, look! This is similar to pi if you multiply it by 10! Then if I take these numbers and subtract them I end up with something like Napier's constant and if I project that onto this fractal plane I end up with Euler's Identity:

I guess it's all good as long as nobody drills a hole in their temple :V
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Re: Pi, Phi and the solar system [Re: micro]
#22441881 - 10/27/15 08:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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^ Looks good to me. Phi is the most overrated number there is. It is practically useless in real science. Its so useless they don't even bother putting it on a calculator. Euler's identity up there has numbers that are actually useful, and interesting. 1,0,i,e,pi
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