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I Love Lucid
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Looking for the most powerful experience
#22404018 - 10/19/15 03:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hey all! I am going to be only tripping once a year from now on and would like to have a very powerful experience each time that will satisfy me and leave me with plenty to take away from the experience.
I have a gram of MDMA, 18 grams of dried cubes, a tab of LSD (can get more), half a gram each of changa and freebase DMT, an oz of peruvian torch chips, 20ish grams of caapi leaf, and plenty of syrian rue.
So far, it seems like psilohuasca is the best way to go. My current idea is to take 3-4 grams dried cubensis and 3 grams of syrian rue. I also plan on smoking changa on the peak or come-down.
I've taken LSD 5 times (up to 300ug), candyflipped once, low dose LSA twice, salvia 3 times (broken through once), nitrous several times, and mushrooms once (2 grams). Despite not having dosed very high, I feel confident I could handle rather high doses.
What are your thoughts and advice?
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Re: Looking for the most powerful experience [Re: I Love Lucid]
#22404024 - 10/19/15 03:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Your idea sounds good. Whatever you do, just don't mix the rue with the mdma.
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Re: Looking for the most powerful experience [Re: HardTrippin]
#22404033 - 10/19/15 03:16 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah, I don't plan on mixing rue with MDMA, or mescaline for that matter.
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Re: Looking for the most powerful experience [Re: I Love Lucid]
#22404316 - 10/19/15 04:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I Love Lucid said: Hey all! I am going to be only tripping once a year from now on and would like to have a very powerful experience each time that will satisfy me and leave me with plenty to take away from the experience.
IME I get the most from balanced trips, don't dose too low, dose high, but never too high. More is not always better. In fact, more can really make you regret what you did. I would advice not to take everything at once.
I'm sorry... that doesn't sound very cool, right? Does it lack balls? Is it too grown up?
Maybe. I don't mean to spoil your fun. But I do think that I at least get more from the same amount of substance(s) when I spread them out. Recover in between, recharge.
I like to combine, but not more than 2 at once. Hippyflip is great, and I've heard that harmala with DMT can be fantastic. I've also read some pretty bad stories about taking it all on the same night.
Just be careful.
Love, Hanz.
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Re: Looking for the most powerful experience [Re: Hanz]
#22404340 - 10/19/15 04:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I would take some syrian rue and oral dmt
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Re: Looking for the most powerful experience [Re: Hanz]
#22404511 - 10/19/15 05:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hanz said: I would advice not to take everything at once.
I have no intention of taking everything at once. I simply wanted to let you all know what I have available to me in case you had any suggestions as to what I could use to optimize the trip.
My current plan is to take 3-4 grams dried with 3 grams rue and, if it needs a kick, smoke changa at the peak. I simply listed the other psychedelics I have in case any of you wanted to suggest I change something about my plan.
Also, I considered using oral DMT instead of mushrooms, but I have heard that it is possible to get more mileage out of shrooms and the extended duration is apeaking.
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Re: Looking for the most powerful experience [Re: I Love Lucid]
#22405043 - 10/19/15 07:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'd say if you're ready up your psilohausca dosage (mushrooms only), my sweet spot is 6grams + 4 grams of rue Nothing has ever challenged those experiences
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Re: Looking for the most powerful experience [Re: Filterhead462]
#22405109 - 10/19/15 07:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Josh-v said: I'd say if you're ready up your psilohausca dosage (mushrooms only), my sweet spot is 6grams + 4 grams of rue Nothing has ever challenged those experiences
Hm maybe I'll bring it up to 4 or 5 grams of mushrooms. I'm hesitant to raise the rue dosage as I've heard that it can cause some nasty body aches and heavy purging.
Also, how do you feel the experience compares qualitatively to ayahuasca?
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Re: Looking for the most powerful experience [Re: I Love Lucid]
#22405373 - 10/19/15 08:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I Love Lucid said: Hey all! I am going to be only tripping once a year from now on and would like to have a very powerful experience each time that will satisfy me and leave me with plenty to take away from the experience.
Ya know, there are absolutely no guarantees at all when you have goals like this. 
But do around 7g dried or 70g fresh of ordinary stock cubes and you'll get something sort of like that. Since you've got such a slow schedule there why not grow some woodlovers - depending on your climate you could have an outdoor bed inside of a year that would yield the most potent mushrooms on the planet...
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Re: Looking for the most powerful experience [Re: PrimalSoup]
#22405513 - 10/19/15 08:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I Love Lucid said: Hey all! I am going to be only tripping once a year from now on and would like to have a very powerful experience each time that will satisfy me and leave me with plenty to take away from the experience.
Ya know, there are absolutely no guarantees at all when you have goals like this. 
But do around 7g dried or 70g fresh of ordinary stock cubes and you'll get something sort of like that. Since you've got such a slow schedule there why not grow some woodlovers - depending on your climate you could have an outdoor bed inside of a year that would yield the most potent mushrooms on the planet...

Hmm I haven't looked into growing my own shrooms before. Are woodlovers a specific strain?
I understand that a ++++ experience can't be guaranteed, but I'd like to make it as likely as possible or at least take a dose sizable enough to catalyze a similarly intense experience.
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Re: Looking for the most powerful experience [Re: I Love Lucid]
#22405556 - 10/19/15 08:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you want a powerful experience do the MDMA, then just after the peak when you feel bulletproof do a bucket bong of freebase DMT, using the changa as your 'herb sandwich'. Make sure you do it somewhere that you can immediately lay down comfortably
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Re: Looking for the most powerful experience [Re: wolfiewolfie]
#22405598 - 10/19/15 09:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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wolfiewolfie said: If you want a powerful experience do the MDMA, then just after the peak when you feel bulletproof do a bucket bong of freebase DMT, using the changa as your 'herb sandwich'. Make sure you do it somewhere that you can immediately lay down comfortably 
Hmm I'd imagine the caapi + MDMA combo would be something to avoid, but vaping a fuck ton of freebase during an MDMA peak sounds wonderful. Maybe I'll do this next time I roll/flip.
However, I feel like I'd get more out of a longer experience than that of a smoked breakthrough. Maybe I'll do a high dose of mushrooms in the morning, MDMA when it wears off, and DMT during both peaks.
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Re: Looking for the most powerful experience [Re: I Love Lucid]
#22405677 - 10/19/15 09:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I Love Lucid said:
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wolfiewolfie said: If you want a powerful experience do the MDMA, then just after the peak when you feel bulletproof do a bucket bong of freebase DMT, using the changa as your 'herb sandwich'. Make sure you do it somewhere that you can immediately lay down comfortably 
Hmm I'd imagine the caapi + MDMA combo would be something to avoid, but vaping a fuck ton of freebase during an MDMA peak sounds wonderful. Maybe I'll do this next time I roll/flip.
However, I feel like I'd get more out of a longer experience than that of a smoked breakthrough. Maybe I'll do a high dose of mushrooms in the morning, MDMA when it wears off, and DMT during both peaks.
That sounds perfect! Not gunna lie, I'm a little jealous
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Re: Looking for the most powerful experience [Re: I Love Lucid]
#22405758 - 10/19/15 09:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I Love Lucid said: Hey all! I am going to be only tripping once a year from now on and would like to have a very powerful experience each time that will satisfy me and leave me with plenty to take away from the experience.
Ya know, there are absolutely no guarantees at all when you have goals like this. 
But do around 7g dried or 70g fresh of ordinary stock cubes and you'll get something sort of like that. Since you've got such a slow schedule there why not grow some woodlovers - depending on your climate you could have an outdoor bed inside of a year that would yield the most potent mushrooms on the planet...

Hmm I haven't looked into growing my own shrooms before. Are woodlovers a specific strain?
I understand that a ++++ experience can't be guaranteed, but I'd like to make it as likely as possible or at least take a dose sizable enough to catalyze a similarly intense experience.
Woodlovers are species that are primary decomposers of wood, like Ps. cyanescens or azurescens, and a few others. Fairly easy to establish outdoors at least in a pacific northwest climate. Then with little attention you have a recurring crop for years and you can just pick and dry them when they fruit for whenever you want to trip. I tend to trip much more often than that, at least in spurts, so I grow indoors cubes to fuel the experience.
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Re: Looking for the most powerful experience [Re: PrimalSoup]
#22406882 - 10/20/15 12:31 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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50mg of Memantine, Ayahuasca (using Acacia) with a Changa mix containing harmala extract, salvia and cannabis.
Would mimic the binding of Ibogaine but with much more precision and a bunch of beneficial additions.
Haven't tried it, but DMT and MXE was insane. Felt like I was on an alien ship for 10 minutes at a time. The probe would turn into the phone, and the view of space into the television as youd come down. Indistinguishable from reality, bleeding between universes.
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Re: Looking for the most powerful experience [Re: Filterhead462]
#22407599 - 10/20/15 07:49 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Josh-v said: I'd say if you're ready up your psilohausca dosage (mushrooms only), my sweet spot is 6grams + 4 grams of rue Nothing has ever challenged those experiences
....hmmm....sounds extreme ...gonna try 4G and 225mg harmala extract....I tried it with 2 grams and was underwhelmed...
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Re: Looking for the most powerful experience [Re: voodoochild1000]
#22407697 - 10/20/15 08:29 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Make sure it's been a couple of weeks before you've dosed and take 7 grams of cubes. That will be an experience you've never had before and may be more than you can handle
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I Love Lucid
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psilocybinjunkie said: Make sure it's been a couple of weeks before you've dosed and take 7 grams of cubes. That will be an experience you've never had before and may be more than you can handle 
This is actually what I think I'm gonna do now. I don't know anyone with experience with harmalas so I figure it's best to get used to high dose shrooms before venturing into that territory.
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Re: Looking for the most powerful experience [Re: I Love Lucid]
#22408457 - 10/20/15 09:38 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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The most powerful experience: salvia breakthrough.
The most bizarre (not frightening) experience of my entire life.
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Re: Looking for the most powerful experience [Re: Bigfeely123]
#22408486 - 10/20/15 09:45 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Salvia is so powerful. Oft overlooked - out of fear methinks! It can be uncomfortable but also very pleasing, enjoyable access to hypermind depending on dose and relationship.
But for me the most powerful has been 5 Amanita recycled 2-3 times. Stronger than 50mg 4-AcO-DMT and profound...
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