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Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water?
#22401930 - 10/19/15 09:25 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I saw a tek where the guy used soap and water to sterilize his SAB but not sure if the type of soap matters? Like could I just use dawn dish soap mixed with water? And does isopropyl alcohol mixed with water work just as good? Probably a stupid question but what ratio should I mix the soap/water or alcohol/water?
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#22401940 - 10/19/15 09:27 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#22401945 - 10/19/15 09:28 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I use 10% bleach-water solution. Some say soap is enough but I wouldn't reccomend alcohol. Bleach is much stronger I think. Then again I never used alcohol like that so I wouldn't really know.
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: spacechildo]
#22401949 - 10/19/15 09:29 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: SAB = still air box, not sterile air box. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20048771#20048771
True but sanitising it doesn't hurt I guess.
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#22401966 - 10/19/15 09:35 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: SAB = still air box, not sterile air box. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20048771#20048771
I know what SAB means...
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Supalemonhaze said: I use 10% bleach-water solution. Some say soap is enough but I wouldn't reccomend alcohol. Bleach is much stronger I think. Then again I never used alcohol like that so I wouldn't really know.
Thank you. Also, do you sanitize your gloves with isopropyl alcohol or does it have to be denatured? (not really sure what the difference is)
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#22401974 - 10/19/15 09:37 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Kush_Zombie said:
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spacechildo said: SAB = still air box, not sterile air box. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20048771#20048771
I know what SAB means...
good, wasnt sure since you were talking about sterilizing it. bleach smells like shit, alcohol evaporates way too fast, water is good but even better with a drop of soap in it.
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#22401985 - 10/19/15 09:39 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I used to use only iso, and noticed improvements contam wise after switching to soapy water.
frank horrigan has a nice write-up of how to use an SAB in my sig
I still use ISO to sanitize tools/jars that go into said SAB personally. Not sure how necessary this is though..
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: spacechildo]
#22401991 - 10/19/15 09:41 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Oh okay, so any regular dawn dish soap works? Or even better, my organic tea tree soap?
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#22401998 - 10/19/15 09:42 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Kush_Zombie said: Oh okay, so any regular dawn dish soap works? Or even better, my Dr. Bronner's tea tree soap?
can't speak to brand, but I would recommend an anti-bacterial dish soap :thubup:
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#22402005 - 10/19/15 09:43 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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anything works its just a matter of making the water "sticky". I think its pretty well explained in the link I first posted, you dont sanitize (or "sterilize") it with soap you just make the air still.
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: spacechildo]
#22402011 - 10/19/15 09:44 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Oh my bad, I edited the brand out. Thank you guys for answering my noob questions
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#22403257 - 10/19/15 12:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Kush_Zombie said:
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spacechildo said: SAB = still air box, not sterile air box. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20048771#20048771
I know what SAB means...
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Supalemonhaze said: I use 10% bleach-water solution. Some say soap is enough but I wouldn't reccomend alcohol. Bleach is much stronger I think. Then again I never used alcohol like that so I wouldn't really know.
Thank you. Also, do you sanitize your gloves with isopropyl alcohol or does it have to be denatured? (not really sure what the difference is)
Denatured means its got ethanol in it. And yes any alcohol based product is good. I use alcohol hand jel
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: spacechildo]
#22403274 - 10/19/15 12:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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spacechildo said:
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Kush_Zombie said:
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spacechildo said: SAB = still air box, not sterile air box. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20048771#20048771
I know what SAB means...
good, wasnt sure since you were talking about sterilizing it. bleach smells like shit, alcohol evaporates way too fast, water is good but even better with a drop of soap in it.
I actually like the diluted smell of bleach. I also use the smell as a guide on when to was my area. When theres no smell I remove everything and clean. And when im about to work I clean the surface on which im going to work on only
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#22403293 - 10/19/15 12:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Your SAb does not have to be sterile, or even sanitary....it just has to provide a draft free environment.
Wetting the walls with anything will work....
And chemicals sanitize, heat sterilizes.
We cannot sterilize our SABs....
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#22403313 - 10/19/15 12:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bleach always made my paper towels way less durable couldn't even get through one run without the things shredding up.
Iso never make my paper towels shred up, even after multiple uses
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#22403336 - 10/19/15 12:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I use an actual towel in the bottom.....works much better, and stays wetter longer.
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Edited by PussyFart (10/19/15 12:27 PM)
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: PussyFart]
#22403439 - 10/19/15 12:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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in the bottom? As in you use a wet towel as the floor of your SAB? Or you use a towel for wiping jars/tools with iso/bleach?
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#22403588 - 10/19/15 01:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I use a real towel in the bottom of my SAB...it is usually soaked in 2-5% bleach solution, or a simple green mix, or just tap water.
I use paper towels soaked in 70% to sanitize everything that goes in.
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: PussyFart]
#22403607 - 10/19/15 01:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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might be worth a try. I have more trouble keeping the walls of the SAB wet than the floor though.
Might be cool to somehow line the sides of an SAB with cloth. Sounds like more trouble than its worth but who knows
Edited by Psilosopherr (10/19/15 01:31 PM)
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#22403654 - 10/19/15 01:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Supalemonhaze said: Denatured means its got ethanol in it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denatured_alcohol
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: Juiceh]
#22403670 - 10/19/15 01:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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lol.
rbalzer try spraying your sab with soapy water or even bleach rather than alcohol, it evaporates real fast! too fast for me to feel comfortable at least..
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: spacechildo]
#22403680 - 10/19/15 01:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: lol.
rbalzer try spraying your sab with soapy water or even bleach rather than alcohol, it evaporates real fast! too fast for me to feel comfortable at least..
yeah no that's what I do. I don't spray it though, I just wipe it with a soapy wad of paper towels.
The soapy water just goes away a little quick for my tastes. I still get through procedures contam free but I'm wary of taking too long because of this.
I guess I could just keep a spray bottle in the SAB and re-spray if needed..
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#22403707 - 10/19/15 01:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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oh, when I spray with soap+water the walls stay wet for an hour or so!
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: spacechildo]
#22403710 - 10/19/15 01:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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maybe its my soap brand or..something
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#22403713 - 10/19/15 01:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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that sounds real weird.. try not washing the walls but just spray them? or wash then spray?
i've used several different cheap brands, all pretty much does the same trick..
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: spacechildo]
#22403729 - 10/19/15 02:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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weird indeed. I'll have to mess around with it.
thanks a lot guys
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#22404521 - 10/19/15 05:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Isnt that kinda the same? Sure I was 1/2 wrong give a guy a break my info was good it does have ethanol in it.
My bad for not being perfect. Didnt know ima get examined here :p
Edit: maybe if u helped the guy urself instead of facepalming I wouldn't have to make a mistake. I dont see u making suggestions
Edited by Supalemonhaze (10/19/15 05:33 PM)
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#22404573 - 10/19/15 05:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Supalemonhaze said: Isnt that kinda the same? Sure I was 1/2 wrong give a guy a break my info was good it does have ethanol in it.
My bad for not being perfect. Didnt know ima get examined here :p
Edit: maybe if u helped the guy urself instead of facepalming I wouldn't have to make a mistake. I dont see u making suggestions
Ethanol is alcohol lol.
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: iSmkGrnBud]
#22404594 - 10/19/15 05:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I literally just douse the fucker inside and out with Lysol. Works every time. Never had a contam yet lol
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#22404843 - 10/19/15 06:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Why not try mixing water, soap and alcohol and find a good ratio?
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: MysticMoteToter]
#22404979 - 10/19/15 06:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm just going to set everything on fire and inoculate inside of the flames.

Haha Lysol is an interesting soultion though. I'll probbaly just use soap and water but spraying the area with Lysol beforehand might be an idea.
Thanks again for the advice everyone
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#22405048 - 10/19/15 07:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Haha i was actually serious I haven't tried my first grow yet but i was planning on spraying down the sab with antibacterial soap, water and a little iso and spray before doing work, letting it sit awhile so the air i spray is semi sanitized from the antibac soap and diluted iso mix and just let the alcohol evap while the workroom is settling haha hopefully i don't blow the place up
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#22405081 - 10/19/15 07:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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MysticMoteToter said: Why not try mixing water, soap and alcohol and find a good ratio?
isopropyl alcohol only effectively sanitizes at a mixture of 70%. 50%, 91%, and 99% are only good for cleaning bongs. I don't have the link handy, but it was lab proven.
regardless, you don't need to waste this substance on such an act as sab preparation. its simply a waste of money and resources.
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: iSmkGrnBud]
#22407098 - 10/20/15 02:26 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Supalemonhaze said: Isnt that kinda the same? Sure I was 1/2 wrong give a guy a break my info was good it does have ethanol in it.
My bad for not being perfect. Didnt know ima get examined here :p
Edit: maybe if u helped the guy urself instead of facepalming I wouldn't have to make a mistake. I dont see u making suggestions
Ethanol is alcohol lol. 
but not the same kind of alcohol right? ethanol is poisonous as far as I know thats why they use it. Might have read it wrong and all they do is add something else to the ethanol.
Edited by Supalemonhaze (10/20/15 02:30 AM)
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#26621478 - 04/23/20 04:16 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ethanol is the stuff you actually drink. 40% alcohol in your vodka or whiskey means 40% ethanol.
The poisonous one is actually methanol. That's the stuff added into denatured alcohol to make it not fit for consumption. It's the reason moonshine is dangerous.
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: 3some]
#26621487 - 04/23/20 04:36 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Supalemonhaze said: but not the same kind of alcohol right? ethanol is poisonous as far as I know thats why they use it. Might have read it wrong and all they do is add something else to the ethanol.
Yeah, they will add some agents to ethanol that is not sold for consumption. That way it can be sold without booze tax.
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3some said: The poisonous one is actually methanol. That's the stuff added into denatured alcohol to make it not fit for consumption. It's the reason moonshine is dangerous.
IIRC, they are adding some bittering agents, not methanol. And, while you should remove the methanol from moonshine, it's not very dangerous. Ethanol is the best cure for methanol poisoning and relative amounts in moonshine (if not separated out) are about the same as with beer and wine.
Moonshine = dangerous is a myth that was spread during prohibition and lives on in the US prohibition where people can't freely produce their own alcohol. I live in a country where moonshine production is legal and very widespread. I facepalm a lot when I see how some people are doing it and none of them have gone blind or died. The only poisonings you hear about from time to time is when people actually do separate it out but don't label the methanol bottle correctly.
The only real moonshine dangers are coming from the prohibition of it. If people could get access to proper stills and could do it out in the open, there would be no dangers. If you have a leaky still and you're doing it indoors because you're hiding from someone, yeah, that's a fire/explosion threat.
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