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Kush_Zombie
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Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water?
#22401930 - 10/19/15 09:25 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I saw a tek where the guy used soap and water to sterilize his SAB but not sure if the type of soap matters? Like could I just use dawn dish soap mixed with water? And does isopropyl alcohol mixed with water work just as good? Probably a stupid question but what ratio should I mix the soap/water or alcohol/water?
-------------------- How to get started in bulk: Presto 23-Quart Pressure Cooker BOD's Simple as FUCK Still Air Box PastyWhyte's Easy Agar Tek Munchauzen's Cultivation Video Series How EvilMushroom666 Prepares His Grains (I use jars with Synthetic Filter Discs) What is G2G? (Grain-to-Grain) Damion5050's Coir Tek (I use 5.5 - 6 quarts of water instead of 4. Also ignore step 13 and ignore the monotub completely. The only purpose of this tek is to show you how to make a simple substrate. I also add gypsum to it but not necessary) Spitball's Monotub Tek (A liner isn't necessary but is useful) Use 6500k lights throughout the whole process. When you wake up, turn the light on. When you go to sleep turn the light off. It's as simple as that.
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spacechildo
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#22401940 - 10/19/15 09:27 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Supalemonhaze
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#22401945 - 10/19/15 09:28 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I use 10% bleach-water solution. Some say soap is enough but I wouldn't reccomend alcohol. Bleach is much stronger I think. Then again I never used alcohol like that so I wouldn't really know.
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Supalemonhaze
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: spacechildo]
#22401949 - 10/19/15 09:29 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: SAB = still air box, not sterile air box. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20048771#20048771
True but sanitising it doesn't hurt I guess.
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Kush_Zombie
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#22401966 - 10/19/15 09:35 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: SAB = still air box, not sterile air box. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20048771#20048771
I know what SAB means...
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Supalemonhaze said: I use 10% bleach-water solution. Some say soap is enough but I wouldn't reccomend alcohol. Bleach is much stronger I think. Then again I never used alcohol like that so I wouldn't really know.
Thank you. Also, do you sanitize your gloves with isopropyl alcohol or does it have to be denatured? (not really sure what the difference is)
-------------------- How to get started in bulk: Presto 23-Quart Pressure Cooker BOD's Simple as FUCK Still Air Box PastyWhyte's Easy Agar Tek Munchauzen's Cultivation Video Series How EvilMushroom666 Prepares His Grains (I use jars with Synthetic Filter Discs) What is G2G? (Grain-to-Grain) Damion5050's Coir Tek (I use 5.5 - 6 quarts of water instead of 4. Also ignore step 13 and ignore the monotub completely. The only purpose of this tek is to show you how to make a simple substrate. I also add gypsum to it but not necessary) Spitball's Monotub Tek (A liner isn't necessary but is useful) Use 6500k lights throughout the whole process. When you wake up, turn the light on. When you go to sleep turn the light off. It's as simple as that.
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spacechildo
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#22401974 - 10/19/15 09:37 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Kush_Zombie said:
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spacechildo said: SAB = still air box, not sterile air box. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20048771#20048771
I know what SAB means...
good, wasnt sure since you were talking about sterilizing it. bleach smells like shit, alcohol evaporates way too fast, water is good but even better with a drop of soap in it.
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Psilosopherr
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#22401985 - 10/19/15 09:39 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I used to use only iso, and noticed improvements contam wise after switching to soapy water.
frank horrigan has a nice write-up of how to use an SAB in my sig
I still use ISO to sanitize tools/jars that go into said SAB personally. Not sure how necessary this is though..
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Kush_Zombie
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: spacechildo]
#22401991 - 10/19/15 09:41 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Oh okay, so any regular dawn dish soap works? Or even better, my organic tea tree soap?
-------------------- How to get started in bulk: Presto 23-Quart Pressure Cooker BOD's Simple as FUCK Still Air Box PastyWhyte's Easy Agar Tek Munchauzen's Cultivation Video Series How EvilMushroom666 Prepares His Grains (I use jars with Synthetic Filter Discs) What is G2G? (Grain-to-Grain) Damion5050's Coir Tek (I use 5.5 - 6 quarts of water instead of 4. Also ignore step 13 and ignore the monotub completely. The only purpose of this tek is to show you how to make a simple substrate. I also add gypsum to it but not necessary) Spitball's Monotub Tek (A liner isn't necessary but is useful) Use 6500k lights throughout the whole process. When you wake up, turn the light on. When you go to sleep turn the light off. It's as simple as that.
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#22401998 - 10/19/15 09:42 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Kush_Zombie said: Oh okay, so any regular dawn dish soap works? Or even better, my Dr. Bronner's tea tree soap?
can't speak to brand, but I would recommend an anti-bacterial dish soap :thubup:
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#22402005 - 10/19/15 09:43 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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anything works its just a matter of making the water "sticky". I think its pretty well explained in the link I first posted, you dont sanitize (or "sterilize") it with soap you just make the air still.
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Kush_Zombie
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: spacechildo]
#22402011 - 10/19/15 09:44 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Oh my bad, I edited the brand out. Thank you guys for answering my noob questions
-------------------- How to get started in bulk: Presto 23-Quart Pressure Cooker BOD's Simple as FUCK Still Air Box PastyWhyte's Easy Agar Tek Munchauzen's Cultivation Video Series How EvilMushroom666 Prepares His Grains (I use jars with Synthetic Filter Discs) What is G2G? (Grain-to-Grain) Damion5050's Coir Tek (I use 5.5 - 6 quarts of water instead of 4. Also ignore step 13 and ignore the monotub completely. The only purpose of this tek is to show you how to make a simple substrate. I also add gypsum to it but not necessary) Spitball's Monotub Tek (A liner isn't necessary but is useful) Use 6500k lights throughout the whole process. When you wake up, turn the light on. When you go to sleep turn the light off. It's as simple as that.
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Supalemonhaze
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#22403257 - 10/19/15 12:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Kush_Zombie said:
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spacechildo said: SAB = still air box, not sterile air box. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20048771#20048771
I know what SAB means...
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Supalemonhaze said: I use 10% bleach-water solution. Some say soap is enough but I wouldn't reccomend alcohol. Bleach is much stronger I think. Then again I never used alcohol like that so I wouldn't really know.
Thank you. Also, do you sanitize your gloves with isopropyl alcohol or does it have to be denatured? (not really sure what the difference is)
Denatured means its got ethanol in it. And yes any alcohol based product is good. I use alcohol hand jel
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Supalemonhaze
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: spacechildo]
#22403274 - 10/19/15 12:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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spacechildo said:
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Kush_Zombie said:
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spacechildo said: SAB = still air box, not sterile air box. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20048771#20048771
I know what SAB means...
good, wasnt sure since you were talking about sterilizing it. bleach smells like shit, alcohol evaporates way too fast, water is good but even better with a drop of soap in it.
I actually like the diluted smell of bleach. I also use the smell as a guide on when to was my area. When theres no smell I remove everything and clean. And when im about to work I clean the surface on which im going to work on only
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PussyFart
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#22403293 - 10/19/15 12:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Your SAb does not have to be sterile, or even sanitary....it just has to provide a draft free environment.
Wetting the walls with anything will work....
And chemicals sanitize, heat sterilizes.
We cannot sterilize our SABs....
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#22403313 - 10/19/15 12:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bleach always made my paper towels way less durable couldn't even get through one run without the things shredding up.
Iso never make my paper towels shred up, even after multiple uses
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#22403336 - 10/19/15 12:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I use an actual towel in the bottom.....works much better, and stays wetter longer.
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Edited by PussyFart (10/19/15 12:27 PM)
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: PussyFart]
#22403439 - 10/19/15 12:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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in the bottom? As in you use a wet towel as the floor of your SAB? Or you use a towel for wiping jars/tools with iso/bleach?
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#22403588 - 10/19/15 01:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I use a real towel in the bottom of my SAB...it is usually soaked in 2-5% bleach solution, or a simple green mix, or just tap water.
I use paper towels soaked in 70% to sanitize everything that goes in.
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: PussyFart]
#22403607 - 10/19/15 01:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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might be worth a try. I have more trouble keeping the walls of the SAB wet than the floor though.
Might be cool to somehow line the sides of an SAB with cloth. Sounds like more trouble than its worth but who knows
Edited by Psilosopherr (10/19/15 01:31 PM)
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Juiceh
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Re: Sterilizing SAB with soap/water or alcohol/water? [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#22403654 - 10/19/15 01:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Supalemonhaze said: Denatured means its got ethanol in it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denatured_alcohol
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