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Elganzoury
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Rez Effect, is it primitive? and why casing!
#22401216 - 10/19/15 04:57 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hey folks,
i got 2 quart jars of fully colonized rye, i wanted to do a mini mono tub or at least a tray, i couldn't find a proper size due to the fact that i only have a few jars.

So i came across rez effect TEK, some say that it primitive, and some say that its a waste of time and yield, is it?
Another question is, why would i have to case it too, as long as its a 1:1 ratio (substrate to verm) so it should keep the moisture perfectly fine?
any other inputs
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Rez Effect, is it primitive? and why casing! [Re: Elganzoury]
#22401225 - 10/19/15 05:05 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I did this tub with rez effect and cased with coir.
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Elganzoury
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Re: Rez Effect, is it primitive? and why casing! [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22401227 - 10/19/15 05:06 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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sweet, i can't get coir here, not easy to come by, so i was about to case with a 50/50 mix
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Rez Effect, is it primitive? and why casing! [Re: Elganzoury]
#22401245 - 10/19/15 05:18 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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The only reason I don't use rez effect much is the high cost of verm. Coir is cheaper. Peat casing will work fine for this too.
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Elganzoury
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Re: Rez Effect, is it primitive? and why casing! [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22401252 - 10/19/15 05:22 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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oh really? here i get a huge bag for 1$, lol thanks for your help btw
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Rez Effect, is it primitive? and why casing! [Re: Elganzoury]
#22401257 - 10/19/15 05:24 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Elganzoury
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Re: Rez Effect, is it primitive? and why casing! [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22401278 - 10/19/15 05:42 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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one last question, i thought about adding this to the mix to increase the depth, although its not fully colonized, what do you think? its about half a quart

btw if it looks a bit weird, thats because it has recieved a brf wedge as a G2G
i know i should only use fully colonized grains, but, you know! i think i got about 1 and 1/2" depth now, i need a little bit more
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Re: Rez Effect, is it primitive? and why casing! [Re: Elganzoury]
#22401322 - 10/19/15 06:13 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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So you're asking if you should just add uncolonized grains for the hell of it, to increase depth? Like, forget the rules, I'm feelin lucky?
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Re: Rez Effect, is it primitive? and why casing! [Re: Inocuole]
#22401329 - 10/19/15 06:16 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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that wouldn't be luck but a surefire "no" :V
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Re: Rez Effect, is it primitive? and why casing! [Re: Inocuole]
#22401333 - 10/19/15 06:18 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Uncolonized grain will guaranteed mold if removed from sterile conditions. Only spawn fully colonized grain.
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Re: Rez Effect, is it primitive? and why casing! [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22401340 - 10/19/15 06:21 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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aha, i thought that colonized grains will protect it,but yeah you're right, i never did that, but was just wondering, thanks anyway, i may wait for this one to be fully colonized, or be happy with what i have and having a depth of about 1 and 1/2" to 1 and 3/4", what do you recommend?
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Re: Rez Effect, is it primitive? and why casing! [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22401351 - 10/19/15 06:25 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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take off the uncolonised part
leaving it on there is just silly
and yes, you are right in that a completely 100% sterile environment will do that
is that really what we are talking about here? :V
or was this grown at home and g2g with a SAB
if so you are probably getting a bit o advantage in the 10 ^ whatevernumber spores you added
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Re: Rez Effect, is it primitive? and why casing! [Re: micro]
#22401359 - 10/19/15 06:28 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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well, you got me wrong micro, my initial question was about two fully colonized jars, but i had another question about adding a partially colonized jar to the tub while doing rez effect TEK, yes all of my projects are done in a SAB
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Re: Rez Effect, is it primitive? and why casing! [Re: Elganzoury]
#22401367 - 10/19/15 06:30 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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nah, I read up top
I haven't even gone to sleep, insomnia
and yeah then I totally would not do it
even though yes you have a decent chance of getting the power in the numbers
i still wouldn't. just me
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Re: Rez Effect, is it primitive? and why casing! [Re: micro]
#22401377 - 10/19/15 06:41 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Power in numbers will not help if even a single grain has trich germinate before it can be colonized. Even with something like brf slurry which can complete a spawn run in two days this would still be pretty risky. Considering brf slurry has infinitly more inoculation potential, uncolonized grain will almost never work out well.
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Re: Rez Effect, is it primitive? and why casing! [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22401390 - 10/19/15 06:48 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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brf slurry?
i hope that's not what it sounds like
for a moment there i thought people might be making liquid media with brf
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Re: Rez Effect, is it primitive? and why casing! [Re: micro]
#22401427 - 10/19/15 07:16 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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They are. It works good for expansion and spawn.
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Re: Rez Effect, is it primitive? and why casing! [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22401440 - 10/19/15 07:22 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Here is a link.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10648149
The link covers using it to expand to graim but a thicker slurry can also be used to spawn to bulk though many cakes would be needed of course to do a larger mono. Good for trays and mini monos tho.
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Re: Rez Effect, is it primitive? and why casing! [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22401452 - 10/19/15 07:27 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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rez effect thats something i havent heard in years
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Re: Rez Effect, is it primitive? and why casing! [Re: tripdawg420]
#22401489 - 10/19/15 07:45 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I actually ran it side by side with a coir verm tub and yields were almost identical, gonna do a few more in the future and document it better i think. Verm just costs a fair amount and is not as easy to source for some.
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