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    #22399078 - 10/18/15 06:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

So I'm having problems with water drops falling on my substrate. I'm using a mono tub with coir/verm with a few quarts of wbs spawn. It's been about 11 days since I started the tub went and checked to see if it's ready to case and I noticed quite a few water drops that have fallen on top. I'm colonized wall to wall but not very thick at all.I have it a constant 75 to 78 degrees holes taped shut and inside black hefty bag.What should I do should I make a drip shield and put it in there or what. I don't want to jack anything up and need advice.


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Re: having problems [Re: shroomskies13]
    #22399090 - 10/18/15 06:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Don't worry about it... let's see a pic of your sub.


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Re: having problems [Re: shroomskies13]
    #22399093 - 10/18/15 06:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Do you have a pic?


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Re: having problems [Re: Kalistis]
    #22399432 - 10/18/15 06:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

A few water droplets on the surface is no big deal. Once you go to fruit it and introduce FAE, it'll evaporate completely in a couple of days, just make sure you have your tub dialed in correctly. Here's a link to Frank's tek on how to dial in those top holes.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17332777
Remember to keep the bottom holes stuffed tightly!! :super:


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Re: having problems [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22400095 - 10/18/15 08:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

        The walls of tub are nothing but thick condisation. I understand I want very high humidity but I've also have read that I don't want water drops getting on anything so I'm kinda confused on where that line crosses.


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Re: having problems [Re: shroomskies13]
    #22400161 - 10/18/15 08:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)



quote]shroomskies13 said:
        The walls of tub are nothing but thick condisation. I understand I want very high humidity but I've also have read that I don't want water drops getting on anything so I'm kinda confused on where that line crosses.





You heard wrong. Do not pay attention to the condensation on the walls or ceiling of tub that will fluctuate naturally with room temp.

The photo I posted is how I like to dial in my tubs.

You want a nice layer of little water drops on surface of sub, just not puddles. The constant evaporation of these droplets off the substrate is your pinning trigger.  The trick is to dial in the polyfill so that you have the highest amount of fresh air coming into the tub without so much that you get dry spots.

What I do is stuff the bottom holes tight, top holes loose. I like to see the surface droplets starting to dry up just in front of the bottom poly, that way I know Im getting maximum FAE I can without causing dry spots.

Its a balancing act between max FAE and max Humidity








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Re: having problems [Re: mushpunx]
    #22400179 - 10/18/15 08:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Oh but it looks like you havent even put your tub into fruiting yet man.


Like I said ignore the condensation on the walls and follow the advice I gave about dialing in proper when you fruit your tub :thumbup:


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Re: having problems [Re: mushpunx]
    #22400288 - 10/18/15 09:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

No not in fruiting yet. From the pics does it look like it could be put into fruiting. This is my first grow and I figured the myc would b a lot thicker and whiter than it is.


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Re: having problems [Re: shroomskies13]
    #22400314 - 10/18/15 09:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

It looks good dude! I'd give it another day or so, there are still some uncolonized portions of coir.


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Re: having problems [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22400345 - 10/18/15 09:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Right on. one last question have you used the coir before if so how long will the left over I saved to case with be good sitting inside the bucket.Its been sealed since I used it for tub but it makes me Leary leaving something wet in a sealed bucket worry about if it will go bad or getting contaminated.


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Re: having problems [Re: shroomskies13]
    #22400381 - 10/18/15 09:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Coir is very contam resistant. I've heard of people leaving their coir for weeks after spawning and then using it to case tubs with no problem.

However, I like to be extra cautious, so I usually just pour more boiling water over it, put the lid back on and wait for it to cool back down. Then squeeze to field capacity and apply the casing! :super:


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Re: having problems [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22400402 - 10/18/15 09:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

right on man. I figured for how cheap this shit is i was just going to make up a whole new batch just to be safe and throw out whatever I didn't use but it's only been week and half or so. sounds like it'll be alright. I appreciate the feed back for real.


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Re: having problems [Re: shroomskies13]
    #22400415 - 10/18/15 09:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You got it dude! :thumbup:


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Re: having problems [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22400713 - 10/18/15 11:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Coir is very contam resistant. I've heard of people leaving their coir for weeks after spawning and then using it to case tubs with no problem.

However, I like to be extra cautious, so I usually just pour more boiling water over it, put the lid back on and wait for it to cool back down. Then squeeze to field capacity and apply the casing! :super:





:lol: yea I do that too sometimes haha
its probably pointless but makes me feel better. Huge pain though!


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Re: having problems [Re: mushpunx]
    #22400936 - 10/19/15 01:07 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Looks fine.  They usually have a lot of condensation before they get put into fruiting.

Also, coming from using cakes or straight grains, coir colonizes in a very thin looking and unsatisfying way.  You'll get used to what it should look like after a few times.


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Re: having problems [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #22410715 - 10/20/15 06:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Just went to case and noticed some good size puddles of water on outside edges of substrate. And also noticed one lil mush bout eighth inch tAll. I put into fruiting instead of casing. do I need to worry bout puddles?


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Re: having problems [Re: shroomskies13]
    #22410858 - 10/20/15 07:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I never have.  I've had a lined tub sitting in 1/4" of water for weeks and had nothing happen.  If you didn't use a liner, it's probably a small enough amount of water to get sucked back up, but monitor it.

With some aggressive strains you need to be on the ball about casing quickly or they'll run away with it.


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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister.  I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave.  I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent.
Triggered yet?

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Re: having problems [Re: shroomskies13]
    #22410922 - 10/20/15 07:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You don't want puddles no, just a healthy layer of water droplets. If you want to *very* gently use a paper towel to wick up the puddles you can.

But since you put your sub into fruiting hopefully the puddles wilL go away. Tight on the bottom, loose on the top.
If your sub stays too wet loosen up the bottom poly, dry spots tighten it up.

I know my tubs are dialed in when there is some drying right in front of thr bottom poly
That way I know Im getting the max FAE I can get , any more and Ill start getting dry spots


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Re: having problems [Re: mushpunx]
    #22411129 - 10/20/15 08:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

right on ill give it a bit if they don't dry up soon I'll try to use paper towel.So is it alright or normal that there is that one lil guy in there. the tub been covered and out of light. I guess I could have cased it days ago. Or could I stil case it now? Or is it best to put into fruiting?


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Re: having problems [Re: shroomskies13]
    #22411452 - 10/20/15 09:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You know you don't need to keep it in darkness right? Light has been proven to be benificial

I don't usually case after pins start appearing. Is the tub fully colonized? As soon as a tub reaches full colonization thats when I either case or put into fruiting.

If its fully colonized and putting up that pin its telling you it wants to be fruited. If its only partially colonized it might be bacteria causing problems


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