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Is this jar good to go for G2G? Some grains have water rings...
    #22399070 - 10/18/15 06:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I know I posted something similar to this, but I really need some pro-eyes to look at the jar and tell me what you think of the jar to tell me if this jar is good for G2G. If not, what is it that looks off? The grains with the water rings from the condensation, which from experience I remember them being from bacteria ridden. It looks alright, but not great. Thank you guys for your input once again!



I'm waiting to inoculate about 15 jars, but I didn't want to waste all of these jars by knocking them up with bacteria ridden spawn.


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Re: Is this jar good to go for G2G? Some gtains have water rings... [Re: DinkinFlicka84]
    #22399095 - 10/18/15 06:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I'd uSE it.


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Re: Is this jar good to go for G2G? Some gtains have water rings... [Re: LocN9ne]
    #22399130 - 10/18/15 06:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

So, here's another jar and it looks better, but I just wanted to know what to look for in a jar on whether it's good to use for G2G....



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Re: Is this jar good to go for G2G? Some gtains have water rings... [Re: DinkinFlicka84]
    #22399184 - 10/18/15 06:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Visually inspecting it first, which looks good from here... if it was bacterial, you would know...it'd either look uncolonized and wet, or overly thick and matted...I'll dig up some pics of heavily bacterial jars in a second...then you can give it another shake and see how quickly and well it recovers... and of course when you do go to g2g give it a good sniff...


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Re: Is this jar good to go for G2G? Some gtains have water rings... [Re: DinkinFlicka84]
    #22399186 - 10/18/15 06:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

What's all that dark stuff dude?


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Re: Is this jar good to go for G2G? Some gtains have water rings... [Re: JacobStorm]
    #22399216 - 10/18/15 06:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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What's all that dark stuff dude?



Sunflower seeds.

These jars are heavily bacterial...


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Re: Is this jar good to go for G2G? Some gtains have water rings... [Re: LocN9ne]
    #22399680 - 10/18/15 07:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Sniff it after the g2g not before like spawning tubs


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Re: Is this jar good to go for G2G? Some gtains have water rings... [Re: tetherface]
    #22399795 - 10/18/15 07:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Sniff it after the g2g not before like spawning tubs



Totally sniff that shit BEFORE you g2g with it...why would you sniff for odd smells after the deed is done... that's like putting a condom on after sex.


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Re: Is this jar good to go for G2G? Some gtains have water rings... [Re: LocN9ne]
    #22399825 - 10/18/15 08:00 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Are you kidding? You open your grain jars outside your sab and sniff them? Theres no way to get a sterile transfer after that


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Re: Is this jar good to go for G2G? Some gtains have water rings... [Re: tetherface]
    #22399877 - 10/18/15 08:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Hmmmm... I always smell my spawn before transfering it to anything...subs, or g2g...learn something new everyday I guess...that being said, what is the difference in smelling before or after?


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Re: Is this jar good to go for G2G? Some gtains have water rings... [Re: LocN9ne]
    #22400074 - 10/18/15 08:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Its reccomended to smell spawn before spawning to bulk or casing cause we dont do that in sterile conditions anyways and are dealing with pasteurize substrates where as in the case of a g2g we need to be ad clean as possible because were innoculating sterilized substrates which lack the good bacteria to compete with contams. Im surprised youve had success sniffing your spawn prior to g2ging it think about how many contams its exposed to just from a quick sniff then put in your sab and used as inoculate? Whatd the point of the glovebox then? Ya know?


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Re: Is this jar good to go for G2G? Some gtains have water rings... [Re: tetherface]
    #22400160 - 10/18/15 08:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

But if there is a hidden contam that makes it smell off, and you don't smell it first you will be exponentially expanding it and lose a bunch of spawn as opposed to the one jar...granted if a jar smells bad there is usually a visual indicator of some sort... I totally see where your coming from though, and it makes sense. Guess I assumed the myc was strong enough for a sniff at full colonization... that's what assumptions get ya.


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Re: Is this jar good to go for G2G? Some gtains have water rings... [Re: LocN9ne]
    #22400201 - 10/18/15 08:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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What's all that dark stuff dude?



Sunflower seeds.

These jars are heavily bacterial...






can i ask what the first jar is contaminated with? that is what my myc looks like after i shake it.


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Re: Is this jar good to go for G2G? Some gtains have water rings... [Re: sir_longdong]
    #22400237 - 10/18/15 08:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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What's all that dark stuff dude?



Sunflower seeds.

These jars are heavily bacterial...






can i ask what the first jar is contaminated with? that is what my myc looks like after i shake it.



It was very bacterial, I just kept shaking it after it'd recover to see what would happen... eventually it gets so bad that there is no recovery...it just stays lookin all shitty like that.


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Re: Is this jar good to go for G2G? Some gtains have water rings... [Re: LocN9ne]
    #22400243 - 10/18/15 08:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Uou assumed correctly the colinized spawn is very contam resistant the issue letting contams ride on the colinized grains from the sniff to the uncolinized sterile grains in the recieving jars where they would be free to grow. I check my g2g jars visually and give em a shake right before using them to moniter their recovery but i still smell the jar after g2g to make sure I didnt make a mistake in visual/shake inspection


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Re: Is this jar good to go for G2G? Some gtains have water rings... [Re: LocN9ne]
    #22400248 - 10/18/15 08:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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LocN9ne said:
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What's all that dark stuff dude?



Sunflower seeds.

These jars are heavily bacterial...






can i ask what the first jar is contaminated with? that is what my myc looks like after i shake it.



It was very bacterial, I just kept shaking it after it'd recover to see what would happen... eventually it gets so bad that there is no recovery...it just stays lookin all shitty like that.





hmmmm gotcha, after my shakes myc is continued its growth. granted its only the 3rd day after the shake but the myc is fluffy and white hopefully it stays strong


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Re: Is this jar good to go for G2G? Some gtains have water rings... [Re: tetherface]
    #22400257 - 10/18/15 08:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Uou assumed correctly the colinized spawn is very contam resistant the issue letting contams ride on the colinized grains from the sniff to the uncolinized sterile grains in the recieving jars where they would be free to grow. I check my g2g jars visually and give em a shake right before using them to moniter their recovery but i still smell the jar after g2g to make sure I didnt make a mistake in visual/shake inspection



Thanks bro.


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Re: Is this jar good to go for G2G? Some gtains have water rings... [Re: LocN9ne]
    #22400313 - 10/18/15 09:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Uou assumed correctly the colinized spawn is very contam resistant the issue letting contams ride on the colinized grains from the sniff to the uncolinized sterile grains in the recieving jars where they would be free to grow. I check my g2g jars visually and give em a shake right before using them to moniter their recovery but i still smell the jar after g2g to make sure I didnt make a mistake in visual/shake inspection



Thanks bro.



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Re: Is this jar good to go for G2G? Some gtains have water rings... [Re: tetherface]
    #22400572 - 10/18/15 10:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Just wanted to say that you can break your jar up, put it in the sab. When you unscrew the lid, you can remove the lid quickly and give that a wiff before sending your grains off. Still not a perfect plan, but it works if you really don't want to waste any grains on a bunk jar. I've only done it a few times, but it saved me from wasting 5 quarts of rice once.


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Re: Is this jar good to go for G2G? Some gtains have water rings... [Re: LocN9ne]
    #22423948 - 10/23/15 05:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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What's all that dark stuff dude?



Sunflower seeds.

These jars are heavily bacterial...




Damn. If that's the way bacterial jars look like, then I've tossed more jars than I care to admit. Thanks for the pictures. That helps a lot actually. I've had some less bacterial jars go bad during the fruiting stage, so that's something I'll have to keep an eye out for. But I've only had 2 subs go bad out of 20 lately, and the one that went bad was a low ratio 1:10 and did not look 100% colonized when i put in my GH. Also, the trich didn't seem to effect my other subs.

Is there a certain way you can get the subs out of a smaller tub where it all comes as one big block and not coming apart near the bottom? Should I have "incubated" later? By that i mean, left in the tub longer before fruiting?


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