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smallest gelcap
    #2239890 - 01/13/04 07:15 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Are #3 gelcaps the smallest one can find? Them 00's are like horse pills.


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Re: smallest gelcap [Re: dreamsarefree]
    #2241674 - 01/14/04 03:01 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Fitrst off what do you want to put into a small capsule. Even P. cyanescens takes on jammed full double ought capsule for a good Mazatec dose.



For 4-6 buttons of peyote it would trake 12 or more doouble-ought capsules for a dose. For acid, they ue to give acid away in the Haight-Ashbury in the late 1960s but then the acid amount was very small but the caps were 99.999% buffer.

Cubes take many capsules for a gose since the dose is 3-5 dried grams. That would be 6 to ten double-ought capsules for a dose of cubies. so if you use a small capsule we are talking twenty or thirty capsules for a dos e of cubes. You might as well just eat them or make a tea, and you will lose about half the high when made in the form of a tea.

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Re: smallest gelcap [Re: mjshroomer]
    #2241827 - 01/14/04 03:55 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Very true MjShroomer, but you could do the "alcohol extract" method to get the dose down in the 10ths of a gram. Very cool method.


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Re: smallest gelcap [Re: mjshroomer]
    #2241976 - 01/14/04 04:54 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

maybe he wants to cap some RCs


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Re: smallest gelcap [Re: gdman]
    #2242056 - 01/14/04 05:23 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: smallest gelcap [Re: mjshroomer]
    #2242319 - 01/14/04 07:02 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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mjshroomer said:
and you will lose about half the high when made in the form of a tea.

mj



Im going to have to refute that my kind sir. I have noticed no decrease in effects from tea whatsoever.


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Re: smallest gelcap [Re: TheCow]
    #2242344 - 01/14/04 07:14 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I will have to agree with MJ on the fact that you do loose some of the "high" when you make a HOT tea, now half i dont know about that.



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Re: smallest gelcap [Re: THEBOSS]
    #2242375 - 01/14/04 07:26 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

The way that I make the tea, I do not notice any decrease in effects. I am not saying that absolutely there are no decrease in effects, I am merely saying in my experience I have felt nothing of the kind.


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Re: smallest gelcap [Re: TheCow]
    #2243437 - 01/15/04 08:54 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

how do you make tea then?


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Re: smallest gelcap [Re: TheCow]
    #2244005 - 01/15/04 02:20 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Psilocine is not water soluable and so you lose all of that part of the high when made into a form of tea, soup or smoothies.

mj

Psilocybine on the other hand is water soluable and converts, through amination, the psilocybine into spsilocine.

mj

You fet off quicker but the high fo does h not got he full four to six o hours.

Also if you take twenty to thirty minutes to consume the doasgae, as do the Mazatecs and other indigenous peoples of Mesoamerica, than the high stays the full term.

mj Tea is very fast and is not what the high is all about.

mj

Eatoing them over a short period of time is what they can be all about.

mj

The Indians have been doing them in that manner for more than 3,000 years. There must be a reason for that.

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Re: smallest gelcap [Re: mjshroomer]
    #2244234 - 01/15/04 04:13 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Psilocine is not water soluable and so you lose all of that part of the high when made into a form of tea, soup or smoothies.





That's assuming that the solid matter is removed before consumption. If you grind the shrooms then add them to a liquid that is not too hot and drink it all, there is no reason for a loss of potency or diminished effects.

I have only made tea once -- I did it with shroom powder and there was definately no loss of strength. If anything, the drastic increase of shroom surface area yielded by grinding makes the mushrooms more effective as your body can readily absorb it all.


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Re: smallest gelcap [Re: mjshroomer]
    #2244235 - 01/15/04 04:15 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

zwei


Edited by EvilEye? (01/15/04 04:19 PM)


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Re: smallest gelcap [Re: Viveka]
    #2244280 - 01/15/04 04:34 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

ya but if your grinding them to powder whats the sense in the tea?pyou might as well use gelcaps.you make tea for the fast comeon but also to avoid consuming the shrooms because they taste bad,tea with mushroom powder floating in it doesnt sound to good to me.


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Re: smallest gelcap [Re: ghostcook]
    #2244518 - 01/15/04 06:16 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Well i didn't make tea because i dislike the taste of shrooms. I usually enjoy the taste as part of the experience. I made tea to try a differnet method of administration and I was very pleased with the results. Actually, it was apple cider and you couldn't taste the shrooms at all. And we're talking finely ground here so there aren't even little bits in it except for a little on the bottom that just tasted like apple cider.

added: What's the sense in making "tea" if you intend to throw away the solid matter? There's bound to be some precious actives left in it that you're just throwing away.


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Re: smallest gelcap [Re: ghostcook]
    #2244642 - 01/15/04 06:51 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

oh yeah, and speaking of gelcaps. Is a #3 the smallest one around?


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Re: smallest gelcap [Re: dreamsarefree]
    #2244672 - 01/15/04 07:06 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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dreamsarefree said:
oh yeah, and speaking of gelcaps.  Is a #3 the smallest one around?


:lol: :lol:
5 Shrooms for that 1! :lol: :lol:


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