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"its tough being in the 1%" -the guardian * 1
    #22398766 - 10/18/15 05:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

has anyone read this? its absurd and almost borders on satire.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/17/wealth-therapy-tackles-woes-of-the-rich-its-really-isolating-to-have-lots-of-money

some good quotes from the article:

Quote:

“The Occupy Wall Street movement was a good one and had some important things to say about income inequality, but it singled out the 1% and painted them globally as something negative. It’s an -ism,” said Jamie Traeger-Muney, a wealth psychologist and founder of the Wealth Legacy Group. “I am not necessarily comparing it to what people of color have to go through, but ... it really is making value judgment about a particular group of people as a whole.”






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Traeger-Muney, who moved to Israel six years ago, runs a global firm and specializes in working with inheritors, who often get a bad reputation in the press.

“You can come up with lot of words and sayings about inheritors, not one of them is positive: spoiled brat, born with a silver spoon in their mouth, trust fund babies, all these things,” she said, adding that it’s “easy to scapegoat the rich”.

“Sometimes I am shocked by things that people say. If you substitute in the word Jewish or black, you would never say something like that. You’d never say – spoiled rotten or you would never refer to another group of people in the way that it seems perfectly normal to refer to wealth holders.”




those poor Israelis :sad:


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In October of 2014, for example, a number of workers staged a protest outside Walmart heiress Alice Walton’s $26m 6,346 sq ft New York condo. The protest, designed to highlight workers’ low wages and part-time schedules, resulted in 26 arrests.

These types of protests can be very stressful for the rich. “It’s really isolating to have a lot of money. It can be scary – people’s reaction to you,” said Barbara Nusbaum, an expert in money psychology.




she must be terrified. those people have SIGNS. and they could... hit her with them? Her armed entourage only has assault rifles, of course she should be scared

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Since the 2008 financial crisis, the income gap has expanded and the situation “has gotten worse for the wealthy”, Cockrell said. The main reason? Not knowing if your friends are friends with you or your money.




thats just not fair. for the wealthy, i mean.

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“Wealth can be a barrier to connecting with other people,” confessed a spouse of a tech entrepreneur who made about $80m. “Not feeling you should share some of the stressors in your life (‘Yeah, wouldn’t I like to have your problems’), awkwardness re: who should pay at a restaurant.”




okay....

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“People say: ‘Oh, poor you.’ There is not a lot of sympathy there,” she said. “[Wealth] is still one of our last taboos. Often, I use an analogy with my clients that coming out to people about their wealth is similar to coming out of the closet as gay. There’s a feeling of being exposed and dealing with judgment.”





:imout:


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Re: "its tough being in the 1%" -the guardian [Re: Adolin]
    #22398783 - 10/18/15 05:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: "its tough being in the 1%" -the guardian [Re: Adolin] * 4
    #22398785 - 10/18/15 05:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Wow I really feel for those poor rich people


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Re: "its tough being in the 1%" -the guardian [Re: Adolin]
    #22398788 - 10/18/15 05:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

lol at life


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Re: "its tough being in the 1%" -the guardian [Re: Adolin]
    #22398794 - 10/18/15 05:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Gresh said:
has anyone read this? its absurd and almost borders on satire.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/17/wealth-therapy-tackles-woes-of-the-rich-its-really-isolating-to-have-lots-of-money

some good quotes from the article:

Quote:

“The Occupy Wall Street movement was a good one and had some important things to say





:imout:






it's definitely satire... or maybe they're trying to be PC and not hurt
the feelings of the trust fund kids that want to continue to have
everything given to them


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Re: "its tough being in the 1%" -the guardian [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22398802 - 10/18/15 05:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

the article is valid.


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Re: "its tough being in the 1%" -the guardian [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22398819 - 10/18/15 05:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Very few of the 1% are trustafarians.  The rest of the population should suck our dicks because we are paying for half of everything


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Re: "its tough being in the 1%" -the guardian [Re: memes]
    #22398832 - 10/18/15 05:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

wealthy people can be so confused by all this

firing all the people that work hard everyday for decades while having dinners cross country with their newly hired buddies on the clock:rolleyes:


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Re: "its tough being in the 1%" -the guardian [Re: zappaisgod] * 5
    #22398835 - 10/18/15 05:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

zappaisgod said:
Very few of the 1% are trustafarians.  The rest of the population should suck our dicks because we are paying for half of everything




zappa thinks hes in the 1%

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Re: "its tough being in the 1%" -the guardian [Re: Adolin]
    #22398873 - 10/18/15 05:29 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

We are.  It isn't that much.


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Re: "its tough being in the 1%" -the guardian [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22398988 - 10/18/15 05:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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We are.  It isn't that much.



You make 400+ k a year?


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Re: "its tough being in the 1%" -the guardian [Re: NotTheDevil]
    #22399012 - 10/18/15 05:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

1% is only 400k a year? Shit.... that's discouraging.


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Re: "its tough being in the 1%" -the guardian [Re: Ezuma]
    #22399089 - 10/18/15 06:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

business expenses lol


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Re: "its tough being in the 1%" -the guardian [Re: Konyap]
    #22399109 - 10/18/15 06:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I suppose I am closer to the 1% than I thought... not personally but like, the families I tend to associate with.
I guess I have no excuse not to make money too then :tongue:


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Re: "its tough being in the 1%" -the guardian [Re: Ezuma]
    #22399145 - 10/18/15 06:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

:dafuq:

:nojustno:

:wonka:


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Re: "its tough being in the 1%" -the guardian [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22399176 - 10/18/15 06:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

zappaisgod said:
Very few of the 1% are trustafarians.  The rest of the population should suck our dicks because we are paying for half of everything




But how many of the 1% actually earned their money from hard work? How many of them made their fortunes simply by being in the right places at the right times?

You always talk shit about the people on welfare who don't work for a damn thing and I understand why you do, but what about the opposite side of the spectrum? What about all the people who got filthy rich simply by playing their cards right and getting lucky? Shouldn't those people be obligated to help out the little people who work hard as fuck every day to earn just a tiny fraction of what they have?

I'm just curious what you have to say because I may or may not have a damn clue what I'm talking about


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Re: "its tough being in the 1%" -the guardian [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #22399194 - 10/18/15 06:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

They owe it to capitalism and their gov't really
not saying we should de incentive rich people from making money though


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Re: "its tough being in the 1%" -the guardian [Re: Ezuma]
    #22399210 - 10/18/15 06:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Ezuma said:
1% is only 400k a year? Shit.... that's discouraging.



Top 1/10th of a percent makes 1.9 mil+.


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Re: "its tough being in the 1%" -the guardian [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22399212 - 10/18/15 06:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

zappaisgod said:
Very few of the 1% are trustafarians.  The rest of the population should suck our dicks because we are paying for half of everything





I didnt say the 1% were trustafarians, the people protesting them were though


anyway, all the billionaires are in china now, hopefully this exposes that the US
isnt the great evil with the huge wealth gap and the 99%ers go to china to protest


liberal source for the 99%

http://theantimedia.org/china-now-has-more-billionaires-than-the-u-s/


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Re: "its tough being in the 1%" -the guardian [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #22399221 - 10/18/15 06:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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OhMrJohnson said:
Quote:

zappaisgod said:
Very few of the 1% are trustafarians.  The rest of the population should suck our dicks because we are paying for half of everything




But how many of the 1% actually earned their money from hard work?






what is considered hard work?

why does it matter how they earned their money, it's theirs


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Re: "its tough being in the 1%" -the guardian [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22399254 - 10/18/15 06:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

China please, they just steal all our idea's and ban imports


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Re: "its tough being in the 1%" -the guardian [Re: Konyap]
    #22399293 - 10/18/15 06:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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China please, they just steal all our idea's and ban imports





they also produce shit cheaper and rake in higher profits which
leads to more billionaires and a greater wealth gap


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Re: "its tough being in the 1%" -the guardian [Re: MichAnon.ael]
    #22399332 - 10/18/15 06:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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MichAnon.ael said:
:dafuq:

:nojustno:

:wonka:




I am unsure what you are trying to express


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Re: "its tough being in the 1%" -the guardian [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #22399361 - 10/18/15 06:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

zappaisgod said:
Very few of the 1% are trustafarians.  The rest of the population should suck our dicks because we are paying for half of everything





I didnt say the 1% were trustafarians, the people protesting them were though


anyway, all the billionaires are in china now, hopefully this exposes that the US
isnt the great evil with the huge wealth gap and the 99%ers go to china to protest


liberal source for the 99%

http://theantimedia.org/china-now-has-more-billionaires-than-the-u-s/



We still have drastically more per capita. The standard of living in China is quite low. But them having problems doesn't mean that our wealth gap isn't too big for our own good.


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Re: "its tough being in the 1%" -the guardian [Re: NotTheDevil]
    #22399385 - 10/18/15 06:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

zappaisgod said:
Very few of the 1% are trustafarians.  The rest of the population should suck our dicks because we are paying for half of everything





I didnt say the 1% were trustafarians, the people protesting them were though


anyway, all the billionaires are in china now, hopefully this exposes that the US
isnt the great evil with the huge wealth gap and the 99%ers go to china to protest


liberal source for the 99%

http://theantimedia.org/china-now-has-more-billionaires-than-the-u-s/



We still have drastically more per capita. The standard of living in China is quite low. But them having problems doesn't mean that our wealth gap isn't too big for our own good.





more per capita?

given that there are 3 billion chinese, the vast majority living in abject poverty
I guess it proves my point that china is where the 99% needs to protest next


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Re: "its tough being in the 1%" -the guardian [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #22399436 - 10/18/15 06:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

NotTheDevil said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

zappaisgod said:
Very few of the 1% are trustafarians.  The rest of the population should suck our dicks because we are paying for half of everything





I didnt say the 1% were trustafarians, the people protesting them were though


anyway, all the billionaires are in china now, hopefully this exposes that the US
isnt the great evil with the huge wealth gap and the 99%ers go to china to protest


liberal source for the 99%

http://theantimedia.org/china-now-has-more-billionaires-than-the-u-s/



We still have drastically more per capita. The standard of living in China is quite low. But them having problems doesn't mean that our wealth gap isn't too big for our own good.





more per capita?

given that there are 3 billion chinese, the vast majority living in abject poverty
I guess it proves my point that china is where the 99% needs to protest next



It does. But it has to be the relevant 99℅, the 99% of China. The 99℅ of the US needs to tax their wealthy to an appropriate degree. But the real monetary problem we have in the US is corporations getting away with paying little to no taxes. How we can solve that one is a mystery to me at this point.


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Re: "its tough being in the 1%" -the guardian [Re: NotTheDevil]
    #22399482 - 10/18/15 07:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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But the real monetary problem we have in the US is corporations getting away with paying little to no taxes. How we can solve that one is a mystery to me at this point.





if a corporation makes no profit should they pay taxes?


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    #22399537 - 10/18/15 07:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

NotTheDevil said:
But the real monetary problem we have in the US is corporations getting away with paying little to no taxes. How we can solve that one is a mystery to me at this point.





if a corporation makes no profit should they pay taxes?



If they're really making no profit than they don't need to pay taxes on their income. But we need to have effective systems in place to prevent businesses from pretending to be non profit in order to dodge taxation.


Edited by NotTheDevil (10/18/15 07:37 PM)


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Re: "its tough being in the 1%" -the guardian [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #22399552 - 10/18/15 07:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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if a corporation makes no profit should they pay taxes?




If they actually make no profit then no. If they hide their profit offshore probably. The USA makes citizens living overseas pay taxes why not companies.


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Re: "its tough being in the 1%" -the guardian [Re: Adolin] * 1
    #22399718 - 10/18/15 07:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Gresh said:
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Traeger-Muney, who moved to Israel six years ago, runs a global firm and specializes in working with inheritors, who often get a bad reputation in the press.

“You can come up with lot of words and sayings about inheritors, not one of them is positive: spoiled brat, born with a silver spoon in their mouth, trust fund babies, all these things,” she said, adding that it’s “easy to scapegoat the rich”.

“Sometimes I am shocked by things that people say. If you substitute in the word Jewish or black, you would never say something like that. You’d never say – spoiled rotten or you would never refer to another group of people in the way that it seems perfectly normal to refer to wealth holders.”




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