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Zytan
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Fresh to Dry ratio
#22397969 - 10/18/15 02:16 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I know that it is said 10 grams wet is around 1g dry. It isn't exact, but thats a good estimate. The thing I'm considering though, is since fresh mushrooms are a bit more potent, like a 10g wet experience will be stronger than a 1g dry experience, by how much do you think fresh are stronger?
I just took a 6g mushroom off one of my cakes, and got to thinking. Thats supposed to be around .6g then if it were dry right? But 6g fresh, since fresh have less alkaloid degradation due to the lack of drying, is supposed to be stronger than .6g dry. So wouldn't taking this 6g fresh mushroom be a bit stronger than a .6g dry experience?
I'm not saying its hugely significant, but there should be a difference right?
I could also just be horribly wrong on everything I just said, which is what I expect, so if someone could please enlighten me. I also could of just not made any sense there, so hopefully I did. Thanks.
Edited by Zytan (10/18/15 02:23 PM)
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Re: Fresh to Dry ratio [Re: Zytan]
#22398043 - 10/18/15 02:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Not that much. wouldnt bother thinking about it. 35g fresh might feel like a 3.75g dry, maybe, but it's unmeasurable
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Re: Fresh to Dry ratio [Re: Zytan]
#22398064 - 10/18/15 02:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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From what I've read your logic seems to be about right. Just remember potency can change quite a bit from grow to grow and everyone experiences things differently. Most people seem to agree that fresh is stronger but some say dried is stronger. You'll just have to find out which works best for you.
1/10th fresh vs dried seems to be the standard.
Some people use this calculator
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Quote:
filthyknees said: Not that much. wouldnt bother thinking about it. 35g fresh might feel like a 3.75g dry, maybe, but it's unmeasurable
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Re: Fresh to Dry ratio [Re: Zytan]
#22398097 - 10/18/15 02:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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The experience tends to be different. It could be the difference in ratio of psilocin/psilocybin too? Fresh tends to be more clear headed imo. Also, some species loose quite a bit of potency when dried. For example, fresh truffles are reported 2x more potent than fresh cubes. But, dried they are reported 2/3 as potent as dried cubes. There is more going on than just the amount of water present me thinks.
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Re: Fresh to Dry ratio [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#22398225 - 10/18/15 03:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Everyone has their own opinion/experience. There are tons of threads on here where this was discussed. Do some searching and reading but i recommend you just do some research yourself, that's the only sure way to find out what works for you.
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Re: Fresh to Dry ratio [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#22398324 - 10/18/15 03:29 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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4HO-DMT said: The experience tends to be different. It could be the difference in ratio of psilocin/psilocybin too? Fresh tends to be more clear headed imo.....There is more going on than just the amount of water present me thinks.

I was going to comment the same thing.
There's a certain aspect to the experience with freshly picked fruits that isn't there with dried. I'd concur with it being more clear headed, and just ever so slightly different in ways I can't explain with words...
...Not so much a drastic difference in potency, just a certain "zest" and "zip" of something different going on with fresh fruits. I loooove eating mushrooms freshly picked, so much so I had a hard time not nibbling on just a few teeny tiny fruits every time I picked em' from my patches last winter.
I too suspect something going on with the psilocybin/psilocin ratio of fresh vs dried...I also ponder about there possibly being trace amounts of other actives that might break down quickly upon drying/storage.
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Re: Fresh to Dry ratio [Re: openmind]
#22398882 - 10/18/15 05:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I agree with fresh being a nicer experience. Clarity is a good way to put it, but getting other people's thoughts on it is interesting.
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Re: Fresh to Dry ratio [Re: Zytan]
#22398963 - 10/18/15 05:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've found that for my homegrown, dry is even a bit less than 10%.
So, e.g., my 10g wet would dry to about 0.85g instead of a full 1g. But then I'd make them really cracker dry in the dehydrator. About 5 to 10 hours (at 35C*) depending on the shroom's thickness.
Can't say if the experience was really different wet from dry.
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