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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: Gr0wer]
    #22646166 - 12/12/15 12:47 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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On top shelf is my brewers grain trial, turns out the water content is still really high, once i cut the bags i'll drain excess. Next time ill put more dry fuel pellets in to dry them out more. I did 2500g wet grain 500g dry pellets, next time ill do 2000/1000 to soak up more water. 




My wood ash and lime experiments also went horribly wrong. I don't know how some people claim no contamination, i just made those 6 lime and ash bags. Looks like all but one is contaminated. I also upped my supplementation to 20% which didn't help. Could have been a spawn issue thou as my shiitake bags are looking good. Im going to give the lipa tek a rest and move onto steaming, just need to rig up a swamp cooler float valve to feed my pasteurizer pail for steam conversion. Ill just run the 1500w element at 100% for 8 or so hours of 205F core temp. Need to get my flow hood up too.


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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: Gr0wer]
    #22648624 - 12/13/15 01:22 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

what's % wood ash you used? I'm  also more and more convinced that the only real efficient solution for my oysters is steam! Still wrestling with temps though. Four out of 10 batches are over-sterilized. The ones that come through fine are yielding ok. Looking for a way to get the steam temp down. Is that where you are using that swamp cooler for? Thought of putting in a ventilator to force steam into the steambox.
Here's my experimental set up. Wood fired boiler RR-style working great for steaming shiitake bags but too hot for oysters. Thinking of welding a bigger steambox with a fan.



I'm sorry, reread your post. We're not talking about the same thing. You're planning to sterilize the kings, I'm still wrestling with pasteurization and steam. I'll work it out, keep you all posted


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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: frog48]
    #22649986 - 12/13/15 01:15 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I'm just going to steam sterilize. Why are you stuck on pasteurizing wood bags? Kings really like high supplements which require sterilization. The difference between my lips bags and brewers grain bags is night and day. I maybe got a half lb off each 4 kilo lipa block but got about a pound off each 2 kilo brewers block. And colonization was crazy fast on brewers grain when compared to 20% bran on pellets. Most likely due to the sugars in the brewers grain.


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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: Gr0wer]
    #22651002 - 12/13/15 05:40 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

What kind of steam method are using Grower? RR type steamer?


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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: nitrodigital]
    #22651144 - 12/13/15 06:15 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

55 gal drum with a large cinderblock at the bottom then a wooden rack sitting on top of that holding the bags above of the water. I have a 1500W heating element ill run at 100% with no controls. I'm going to rig up a 5 gal pail next to the drum with a swamp cooler float valve and hose connecting the two that constantly feeds the drum as water steams off. I just found 16 large grow bags in my shed. Ill make 21 king jars tomorrow and use them for the grow bags. Ill have to pick up one or two pails of brewers grain from the brewery in a week or two once the jars colonize, or brew myself :smile:


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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: Gr0wer]
    #22671635 - 12/18/15 11:54 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Sounds like a good idea. Currently mulling over options for an electric steamer. Dont want to use propane.


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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: Gr0wer]
    #22673030 - 12/18/15 05:51 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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55 gal drum with a large cinderblock at the bottom then a wooden rack sitting on top of that holding the bags above of the water. I have a 1500W heating element ill run at 100% with no controls. I'm going to rig up a 5 gal pail next to the drum with a swamp cooler float valve and hose connecting the two that constantly feeds the drum as water steams off. I just found 16 large grow bags in my shed. Ill make 21 king jars tomorrow and use them for the grow bags. Ill have to pick up one or two pails of brewers grain from the brewery in a week or two once the jars colonize, or brew myself :smile:



Remember the liquid from brewing is toxic :wink:


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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: woodloverboy]
    #22694202 - 12/24/15 09:53 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)



5% Bran harvest 1 lb 2 oz each bag first flush no casing. The 10% has 100x more pins but only 2-3 large fruits.


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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: Gr0wer]
    #22702940 - 12/26/15 07:56 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Nice grower! What kind of temps are you running? Because of the cold snap here my room has dropped to the high 40s recently, i got the temps back up to the low 50s yesterday with a heater and my cased blocks have seen no pins so far, i think ive got it too cold.... or i put too much casing in and its spending its time colonizing the casing. Do you know the minimum temp for king fruiting?


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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: nitrodigital]
    #22703061 - 12/26/15 08:28 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I've been running my heater at 58F in my garage. This keeps my kings around 58-60 and the walk in around 55 since it has the swamp cooler and a lot of air gets pulled from outside on that chamber. With the king's anything around 65 or higher and you get hollow stems. I haven't really pushed the lower limits of fruiting these so hopefully someone else can give a better answer on that. I'd say 50-60 are about optimal. Did you already cut the bags open? If no just move them inside to warm them back up then put them back out to cold shock again. I typically don't cut the bags open till the pins are well established.


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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: Gr0wer]
    #22703334 - 12/26/15 09:45 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

they are out of the bags, i buried them in these tubs with casing.

I just checked em and i have a couple of pins finally, should see some good action soon, i cranked up the temp to 59 cuz im sure the super cold was slowing them down. Im sure the casing slows them down too. Going to hook up some intake air as well next week, just got my new IF6 fan in the mail.


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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: nitrodigital]
    #22703349 - 12/26/15 09:50 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Nice, kings don't need that much FAE. i was manually fanning 3-4 times a day for a few days when my fan broke and it made some nice fruits. I run two 50 x 15mm 5V squirrel cage fans on my chamber currently, although i should have went with a slightly larger fan to better scale with my foggers. These are such low volume one fogger on will oversaturate the chamber fast so i run two. 

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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: Gr0wer]
    #22703435 - 12/26/15 10:07 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

yea, i know they are CO2 lovers. My last batch did fine with zero intake air but i have 25 big aloe plants in the room which im sure provide lots of O2. The intake will be mostly for my oysters. I just ordered a 5 disc fogger from mainlandmart, the shipping was a ripoff, 56 bucks to canada. I am really not too keen on buying these because i hear they burn out but figured ill try it out and see.


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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: nitrodigital]
    #22703482 - 12/26/15 10:19 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Im a bigger fan of multiple single disk foggers. I can get them for $10 total shipped each. If one burns out, replace it! Make sure you tighten the lock rings before firing any fogger, and check there tight from time to time when cleaning your water out.


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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: Gr0wer]
    #22703604 - 12/26/15 11:00 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

wow i didnt know they were adjustable... great tip. That's also a good point about single disc foggers. I have one running now and it works great, puts out lots of fog for one disc. Ill keep this in for when this one burns out. How about the power source for 5 foggers?


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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: nitrodigital]
    #22703750 - 12/27/15 12:04 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I just run all the foggers off a power strip.


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