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Jim Morrison
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: nitrodigital]
#22586832 - 11/28/15 03:00 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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-------------------- Jim Morrison's Trade List Live Long and Myceliate! The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Ayn Rand
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: nitrodigital]
#22590889 - 11/29/15 02:56 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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just an update on my latest cardboard experiment. Even though those bags are colonizing like crazy i just noticed a some green spots on some carboard chunks sitting on the top of the bag even though the bag is almost fully colonized. I am now rethinking using carboard or changing my procedure. I decided to try this because some other trusted cultivators mentioned using cardboard and im all about recycling the tons of cardboard i have around here. Since the contam piece is a bigger 1" x 1" piece of carboard i think this might be the reason and shredding the cardboard more finely might have avoided these contams. I know its a gamble but instead of chucking the bag i soaked it down with IPA, put in my SAB and carefully removed the offending piece of cardboard. Im also thinking a longer PC cycle when using cardboard might be in order, something like 2.5 hours, but ill definitetly make sure it is finer shredded next time. Live and learn. 
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: nitrodigital]
#22591021 - 11/29/15 03:25 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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one quart jar of grain spawn cased with potting soil (peatmoss/soil). Just an experiment to test the viability of the fruiting location, open air damp sunroom with zero environmental controls.
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Gr0wer
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: nitrodigital]
#22592862 - 11/29/15 11:55 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Brewers grains are blowing the control bag away. I just realized they were pinning and all the bags together had about 1/2 lb of pins growing up the walls so i tore them off and cooked em up!!



fuel pellets and 20% bran control bag


Original Lipa bags with 0-5% bran. It seems supplementation is king with kings, hopefully my 10% lipa bags do better.


Edited by Gr0wer (11/30/15 12:02 AM)
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: Gr0wer]
#22610591 - 12/03/15 08:47 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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20% bran control bag

brewers grain bags, luckily i my first account is a brew pub, ill be picking up some pails of spent grain next week when i make my drop off 


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Jim Morrison
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: Gr0wer]
#22611578 - 12/04/15 03:06 AM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Those are fucking awesome!!!
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: Jim Morrison]
#22611629 - 12/04/15 04:01 AM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Good work!
If you haven't done so already I'd highly recommend scratching your blocks. Our yields increased by 3-5% compared with no scratching.
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Gr0wer
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: mcchieftan]
#22611900 - 12/04/15 07:25 AM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Cool. Ill give it a shot on the second flush. The brewers grain bags were bursting with pins before i even cut the bag top off!! I'll go ahead and scratch the control bag as that one is quite lame.
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: Gr0wer]
#22612885 - 12/04/15 01:14 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Looking good! Nice pins. I read about scratching from a few other threads but not about the procedure. What sort of tool do you use? How deep are the scratches? I hope to get a couple of blocks planted this weekend so ill want to scratch them. Thanks !
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: nitrodigital]
#22614647 - 12/04/15 08:19 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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eryngii test in freezer tray. So far the fruiting location looks good. 
Edited by nitrodigital (12/04/15 08:29 PM)
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Gr0wer
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: nitrodigital]
#22628212 - 12/07/15 11:08 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Brewers grain i already pulled about 2-3 lbs off three bags for saturdays market. I didn't have time to weigh them but they're growing great! Seems to be a short and stubby strain. I just did a scratch on the original lipa bags as well as cut some holes down at the bottom to hopefully get another flush. I used my scalpel to scratch.
Edited by Gr0wer (12/07/15 11:10 PM)
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: Gr0wer]
#22628418 - 12/08/15 12:55 AM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Stem length, width and cap size are a function of CO2 concentrations....
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: mcchieftan]
#22629944 - 12/08/15 01:12 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yea, i read about enyngiis needing higher CO2 for big caps. This is why i am not introducing any oxygen into my fruiting location except for the plants in the room. El ninyo has been wreaking havoc with my fruiting location as these are the hottest temps ive ever seen in Canada for december, the room s now getting up to 75 during the day which is not good. The humidity is dropping as well with the temp increase so ive decided to introduce some environmental controls in the way of humidity with a fogger i just whipped up. This is the first time ive grown enyngii and i am pretty happy with the results so far. This is 1 qt grain spawn cased in a freezer tray. I have 2 big tubs going with sawdust blocks cased for the next test. Should be better. Hopefully it will get colder outside as i dont have a permanent fruiting room built yet.

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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: Gr0wer]
#22629972 - 12/08/15 01:21 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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anybody ever try black grow bags for these? A vendor im talking to has them in stock. Im thinking of giving them a try.
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: nitrodigital]
#22630207 - 12/08/15 02:34 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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mcchieftan so back off my FAE?
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: Gr0wer]
#22639478 - 12/10/15 05:41 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Also, a lot of growers pick off the smaller pins before they really get going to allocate more resources to the larger pins that remain.
If you are trying to hit the market have you looked into a bottle tek? These guys have it down pretty good:
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: amp244]
#22640573 - 12/10/15 09:46 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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They don't even trim the bases? I like the newspaper idea.
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Gr0wer
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: Gr0wer]
#22643011 - 12/11/15 03:25 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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So i got a little over a pound off each bag of brewers grain, seems like a success to me ~25% harvest with no casing. Still waiting on the second flush. Later this month ill make 21 jars of king and try fractional sterilizing brewers grain mixed with wood bags in my 55 gal drum. Only thing is i'm out of bags and xmas is near. Ill probably need to wait to buy the bags as i plan to buy 1000 bags from unicorn bags, unless sales are good this weekend 
Im currently trying another lipa experiment. I'm made 3 Xl lipa bags with 20% bran and .5% lime and another 3 with 1% wood ash. Same split test with 8 shiitake bags.
Edited by Gr0wer (12/11/15 03:28 PM)
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: Gr0wer]
#22645904 - 12/12/15 11:28 AM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hey Grower, did you mention somewhere how much brewers grain you put in? Got a brewer in the next valley, might be paying him a visit one of these days. 
I'm doing tests with woodash for oysters as well, not very successful for the moment
Edited by frog48 (12/12/15 12:53 PM)
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