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Gr0wer
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: mcchieftan]
#22547351 - 11/19/15 03:31 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I replaced the sensor on my digital controller since it was corroded from the high RH. This time i put some silicone around the connection so it wont happen again. After calibration i got the unit holding the chamber at 96-98 RH. Seems to be working well. I have one ultrasonic on 24/7 and two on the controller. This prevents sandwiching of dry air if i didn't have the one on 24/7.

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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: Gr0wer]
#22547420 - 11/19/15 03:49 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: Gr0wer]
#22547662 - 11/19/15 04:38 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Looking nice man.
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: Gr0wer]
#22548092 - 11/19/15 05:55 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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What kind of controller are you using? Looking great.
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Gr0wer
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: GalindoiSioux]
#22548262 - 11/19/15 06:39 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm using a WH8040.

I also have my analog gauge in there to verify everything is working and calibrated as displayed on the digital readout.

I have 41 jars to inoculate tonight. Ill do a handful of kings and more maitake, the last two bags i made contamed while the kings are already done colonizing with no losses, most likely due to the slower growth. The brewers grain sterilized bags are 90-100% so hopefully in 1-2 weeks ill cold shock and move them into fruiting. If all my bags colonize with no contams i'll be at 1/2 capacity on my fruiting chamber so i need about 18 more bags to make. The Shiitakes will probably follow these once they're flushed out.
Does anyone with king growing experience have any notes on my fruit body shape? does it look normal are there any telltale signs of too low or high FAE or RH? Also can i directly mist kings like i would blues or pinks?
Edited by Gr0wer (11/19/15 06:50 PM)
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: Gr0wer]
#22549480 - 11/19/15 10:40 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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So i ended up making a 4-10 jars of each of SRA, maitake aloha AZ, l. sulphureus, shiitake 3782, and nameko. Should get interesting soon
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: Gr0wer]
#22553558 - 11/20/15 11:11 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Is it just me or are these real close to harvest and looking awfully small? no supplements on this bag but still i would expect more. Im guessing its because i wasn't misting and i now realize my sensor and gauge were out of calibration so RH was actually like 90% vs 96-97%. I just calibrated and set the humidistat to 98. Hopefully the remaining pins will do much better with everything dialed in.

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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: Gr0wer]
#22554075 - 11/21/15 02:56 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes, looking pretty small.. lots of failed pins, perhaps because of your RH problems?
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Gr0wer
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: mcchieftan]
#22554913 - 11/21/15 10:43 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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most likely. The odd shape of the front fruit tells me the RH was funky. Hopefully once i pack this chamber and keep up with misting The RH will maintain itself better.
The spent brewers grains bags are looking real good. Should be ready to shock and fruit real soon!
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: Gr0wer]
#22558954 - 11/22/15 10:23 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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So the most recent batch of 6 bags i lost 2/6 to cobweb and green mold. Next batch will get lime in the bags. Another batch of 6 will get wood ash. If i can't get this down below 10% contams i'll move on to steam fractional.
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: Gr0wer]
#22577794 - 11/26/15 11:11 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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The straw logs are starting to pin. Nothing to impressive on my bags, mostly 3-5oz fruits 1-2 at a time. Hopefully my other strain of king oysters will make larger and more abundant fruits also the lack or low degree of supplementation at 5% in these bags isn't helping. On top shelf is my brewers grain trial, turns out the water content is still really high, once i cut the bags i'll drain excess. Next time ill put more dry fuel pellets in to dry them out more. I did 2500g wet grain 500g dry pellets, next time ill do 2000/1000 to soak up more water.
Edited by Gr0wer (11/26/15 11:27 AM)
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: Gr0wer]
#22578102 - 11/26/15 12:15 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've been following this thread with great interest as i am experimenting with kings as well. I have about 8 bags of supplemented fir sawdust colonizing and the myc is going through it fast. I also have 2 bags with fir sawdust/straw/shredded cardboard looking good so far. I dont have a fruiting chamber yet so ill be fruiting them in my unheated and unfinished damp sunroom which is currently around 52 degrees and 85% RH. I am going to try several different methods of fruiting them including in the bag cased with peat, cased with verm, cased with sand, as well as burying some blocks in tubs of casing. Some very good info on this thread. I will also experiment with temps because as drake and others mentioned they are very slow at the lower temps.
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: Gr0wer]
#22578115 - 11/26/15 12:18 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Grower, Since i have that same controller which i havnt implemented yet i would be really appreciate if you could post a pic of the fix you did to improve the sensor install so i can avoid burning mine out when i finally get a fruiting chamber built.
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: nitrodigital]
#22578238 - 11/26/15 12:48 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Just seal up the back side and connection over the plug with silicone sealant. RTV or bath caulking should work. Place the unit nearby your humidifier for faster readings. Also place it inside a tube to prevent it from getting sprayed or dripped on.
I would skip the sand, nobody wants grit in there mushrooms if you do miss a spot of casing stuck to the fruit. Also sand doesn't have good water retention which is the main purpose of a casing layer. 52 should be a good temp, slow growth but should make nice fruits. Mid to high 60s gave me hollow stems on the first harvest. If your getting some sun in that sunroom i think a cool idea would be bury a block in a pot of peat based potting soil and plant some plants in there. The plants should provide a little microclimate with higher o2 and humidity for the mushies.
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: Gr0wer]
#22578397 - 11/26/15 01:31 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Awesome, bookmarked this. Good point about the sand, yea i hate grit! It was my inherent cheapness thinking there. Yep it is all windows in there and some skylights. Its a project i started and havnt finished yet. No flooring etc. Interesting you mentioned the plants as i have about 20 aloe plants and other assorted plants sitting on a scaffold in there and is probably why the room is so damp causing the windows to drip. Thats why i figured... until i get my fruiting chamber in the basement built this is a perfect spot to try some shrooms. That scaffold would actually make a good grow rack if i covered it with plastic. I actually did what you said as a test and buried a small piece of leftover totem log from my outdoor grow in one of my garbage can plant pots that was full of peat/soil mix and already have some nice looking oysters popping up. The meter right at the soil is showing 90%RH and 52F right now so i think this will work out well for my first test grow. I was thinking of building some boxes out of 2x8s or 2x10s to bury some blocks in and have right in front of the windows. Would you know is pressure treated wood ok for mushrooms? I am thinking maybe not.
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: nitrodigital]
#22578426 - 11/26/15 01:39 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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yea no go on CCA wood for growing plants or mushrooms. Cheapest option is build a pallet planter box for nearly free and just replace it in a few years when it rots out. Some pallets are made of oak if you look around.
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: Gr0wer]
#22578631 - 11/26/15 02:27 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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thats what i thought...nix the pressure treated, pallet planter huh, i like it, as a bit of a pack rat i happen to have a big stack of pallets at the back of my property. Most of them are fir, but i have some oak ones as well. I think both of those are fairly rot proof. I was planning on using a bunch of them for setting up logs on in the spring but this is another good use for them, thanks again you just saved me some money buying boards. Im also looking around for some shallow black plastic tubs to bury some blocks in. I am thinking for my grow boxes ill put a layer of coarse limestone gravel on the bottom, then the fully colonized blocks, then a layer of casing probably peat mixed with something either lime or gypsum or verm and probably throw in a scoop of zeolite in one test bed to see if it makes a difference as this stuff has a big effect on my plants health. I like the idea of the plant microclimate you mentioned since i have tons of plants. I realize this is far from any sterile production environment but hopefully will provide me with some mushrooms to eat and test out options i could possibly use in a future greenhouse environment. I am going to have to put some heaters in there soon though because the temps dropping here in canada and soon the room will be well below 50 and also need to hang some floros as we are already down to 8.5 hours of daylight.
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: nitrodigital]
#22578898 - 11/26/15 03:43 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I wouldn't sweat the hours of daylight. Sounds like you got a plan!
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: Gr0wer]
#22578945 - 11/26/15 03:55 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have a plan, yea, just gotta transfer it to reality Ill put up a couple of pics when i get some progress to show. Thanks for all the tips.
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: Gr0wer]
#22586745 - 11/28/15 02:42 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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i tried a new mix of sub recently, 18 cups fir sawdust, 2 cups maple sawdust from my planer, 2 cups bran, 1 cup gypsum, about 4 cups straw, and about 10 cups shredded beer cases (corona). PC for 2 hours. The kings seem to like this better than anything ive tried yet. I usually burn my beer cases outside so i figured even better if i can grow stuff off them... will see how it turns out

I found some nice black bins at wallyworld, they look good for about 2 blocks. 5 bucks each canadian.
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