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GalindoiSioux
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: Gr0wer]
#22433876 - 10/25/15 09:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've been using hardwood pellets from menards. 50 pound bag for four dollars. I didn't pasturize due to these being heat pressed. I added water then mixed in my pearl oyster spawn. I've got my fist pins showing today. It was fully colonized in a week and a half. Couldn't be happier with my first grow so far.
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: GalindoiSioux]
#22433912 - 10/25/15 09:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I should add that I added a bit of gypsum to the mix as well.
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: GalindoiSioux]
#22433916 - 10/25/15 09:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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sounds like a luck batch lol. I wish i was seeing the same. So the other factor that may have been it was i transferred from the large to XL bag after the heat treatment. But spawn bags are typically really clean when new and i use them all the time for pasteurized straw with no issues. It could also be a brand thing, maybe some brands use cleaner wood than others?
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: Gr0wer]
#22434058 - 10/25/15 10:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Could be. I'm too new to this and still experimenting. I didn't even have full access to posts until I made my tenth tonight. Yeah I was shocked. I started another tonight to see if I could get the same results. The jar I added was a full half gallon of Spawn that colonized crazy fast too. I'll try to add a pic tomorrow if you are interested in having a look.
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: GalindoiSioux]
#22434084 - 10/25/15 10:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Noooooo!!!
I've always found it easier to supplement with spawn rather than bran and things of that nature. I just whip up a lot of spawn and mix it up at some obscene ratio, that'll get that N% way up there, and also cut down the spawn run, which also minimizes the risk of contamination.
Plus I've always sterilized my sub, but my grows are not as vast as yours. Sterilizing 6 large bags would require three large pressure cookers, and pasteurizing doesn't require such "clean" procedures, so I see why its admirable. Lets hope that 5th bag stays clean!
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: Gr0wer]
#22434262 - 10/25/15 11:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I feel your pain.
Wood is a push over for trich. Pasteurize straw; sterilize wood.
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: Gr0wer]
#22434671 - 10/26/15 04:11 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Gr0wer said: So. 4/5 of the first batch are laden with green nasty. And these were unsupplemented bags. Id be willing to bet the bran ones will contam 100%. Looks like ill be converting my pasteurizer to a steamer real soon. Looks like the outdoor king path will be sooner than expected. The only thing i didn't do to TEK was i spawned at 1/2 the rate, that might have been the culprit. Also i'm not sure if kings were the best choice for this TEK. Looks like ill be prepping up jars tomorrow to reset with.
Didn't you say you didn't use boiling water? That may of had a little something to do with it.
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: Jim Morrison]
#22435075 - 10/26/15 08:46 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Gr0wer said: So. 4/5 of the first batch are laden with green nasty. And these were unsupplemented bags. Id be willing to bet the bran ones will contam 100%. Looks like ill be converting my pasteurizer to a steamer real soon. Looks like the outdoor king path will be sooner than expected. The only thing i didn't do to TEK was i spawned at 1/2 the rate, that might have been the culprit. Also i'm not sure if kings were the best choice for this TEK. Looks like ill be prepping up jars tomorrow to reset with.
Didn't you say you didn't use boiling water? That may of had a little something to do with it.
it's hard to nail down a contamination vector even when you do everything by the book, much less when you're pushing the envelope. there are many, many ways for mold to get in...
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: drake89]
#22435690 - 10/26/15 11:54 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I used rolling boil water for this batch, the second batch i dropped it a few degrees. I was talking with the wife, i think ill just be getting an AA941 and flow hood once i see some returns from the big grow room. Then after that ill rebuild my small grow chamber and use that for kings and other low FAE high humidity woodlovers. I'm just going to focus on blues now and let my other cultures sit for a few weeks in jars, maybe even refrigerate. If any of these bags do colonize ill put them into my marta with minimal fancy climate controls. And i still have 4 more bags that are unsupplemented and so far not infected fingers crossed on them. I should have used lime too.... maybe that would have given me a fighting chance.
Edited by Gr0wer (10/26/15 12:00 PM)
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: Gr0wer]
#22437905 - 10/26/15 09:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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The block I was talking about last night. Unpasteurized, hydrated(boiled water then soaked for 10 minutes) fuel pellets. I spawned it in a large grow bag with about 1 quart of hard white wheat and 1 quart of whole oats from a half gallon jar and an extra quart of the same mixture. I threw in a couple tablespoons of used Folgers grounds and the same of gypsum in the spawn jars mixture for good luck. In the bag, it was definitely a heavy spawn to wood ratio like amp mentioned, but I would not guess over half. I mashed it up good and it was fully colonized in less than a week. Its been in the Fruiting chamber a week.
Edited by GalindoiSioux (10/26/15 09:47 PM)
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: GalindoiSioux]
#22443002 - 10/28/15 01:25 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's a wild looking pin set. Interesting!
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: vvHeavyvv]
#22443347 - 10/28/15 04:16 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Awesome colonization! I guess I should have used a higher spawn ratio. At what temperature do you have them colonizing at?
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: Jim Morrison]
#22444262 - 10/28/15 10:36 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thank you. I feel I got pretty lucky with my first batch of mushrooms ever lol. I had them at 80 degrees +/- 3 degrees. In my incubation room under the stairs, there is a furnace/ a/c duct that passes through but doesn't vent and that messes with the temp a slight bit. I've filled the room with about 10 gallon jugs of water to help regulate the temp fluctuations. Getting more jars and bags in there will help with that too.
They are a bit gnarly looking! The humidity is at 95+ in my greenhouse and I've got a fogger and an air stone in a self watering dog bowl for FAE and humidity. It would run for two weeks without refilling if I needed it too. The fogger runs for 15 minutes every hour with three two hour breaks throughout the day. The air stone runs 24/7.
I don't mean to hijack this thread that I didn't start. I just am having incredible luck with my first batch and am excited about it!

Edited by GalindoiSioux (10/28/15 01:27 PM)
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: GalindoiSioux]
#22446526 - 10/28/15 08:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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My remaining five bags are still slowly colonizing. No contams yet fingers crossed.
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: Gr0wer]
#22446581 - 10/28/15 08:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Good to hear!
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: GalindoiSioux]
#22446956 - 10/28/15 10:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ok so lost another but i actually had 6 so now i'm at 5 lol. I may try this again with lime, seems that helps a ton. Also getting some ash from a friend to try that as well.
Edited by Gr0wer (10/28/15 10:07 PM)
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: Gr0wer]
#22447799 - 10/29/15 04:06 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Gr0wer said: Ok so lost another but i actually had 6 so now i'm at 5 lol. I may try this again with lime, seems that helps a ton. Also getting some ash from a friend to try that as well.
What did you do with the contaminated bags? Hopefully you just put them outside somewhere. I've had a lot of good harvest from contaminated bags I just threw it outside.
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: Jim Morrison]
#22448036 - 10/29/15 07:08 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't have a yard so there still sitting in the bags waiting for my fiend to pick them up. They get greener every day though.
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: Gr0wer]
#22451734 - 10/29/15 11:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Harvested 29 ounces tonight.
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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with gypsum [Re: GalindoiSioux]
#22452192 - 10/30/15 03:56 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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GalindoiSioux said: Harvested 29 ounces tonight.

Yup. It's official. I'm jealous.
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